I'm fine with prices staying the same as Turing if the performance actually increases with each tier this time.
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Rumored specs for NVIDIA's upcoming "Ampere" RTX 3000 series graphics cards (RTX 3060, RTX 3070, RTX 3080 and RTX 3090)
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This is the same thing that's been discussed for like longer than that twitter post, Tweaktown kinda sucks though. Honestly, a lot of these tech sites seem to have gone down the toilet, like WTF happened to Tom's Hardware?!
New GeForce RTX 3090 leaks: 12GB GDDR6X at insane 21Gbps
NVIDIA's purported GeForce RTX 3090 would feature 5348 CUDA cores, 12GB GDDR6X at 21Gbps.www.tweaktown.com
Anyone know if this twitter user is trustworthy ?
This is a likely case with me though my CPU/Mobo are older, doing my new build and if there isn't a GPU to my liking just sticking with my 1070 a bit longer though I'm aiming for going above 3070.
The 2070 Super should still be good, especially on games with DLSS. The main reason why I'm waiting on Ampere for a new PC is because I want HDMI 2.1, but that doesn't matter for plenty of people.
I'm not. With new consoles launching in just a few months in the $400-500 range for the entire system, prices need to come down substantially for people not to simply leave PC gaming and get an Xbox/PS instead.
I've been a PC gamer since I was 3, but for the first time I'm considering getting a PS5 instead since I find it difficult to warrant the 4x price for a gaming PC with essentially the same hardware.
It's more than likely just a name change to the Ti series. Dual GPUs in consumer cards are dead.
im waiting for a time to bow out from high end pc gaming, but as long as I have disposable income I'm going to stay on top
What's to it for me is simply M+KB, and a perceived larger screen. I can't warm up to the thought of playing Doom or RTS games with a controller, but if there had been a M+KB option for the consoles it would have been a no brainer for me, considering the rather enormous price gap.
yeah i pc on a 65 inch so i'm already end game. just looking for more end game lol
If performance estimates of next-gen consoles are accurate the 2070 is ps5 tier so I think you'll be good for quite a while, depending on your resolution and framerate targets of course.
I use my computer for more than gaming so I still need to be in on pc gaming because of convenience. Tbh, there is still incredible value in owning a gaming pc not only because of all of the mods, but outside of gaming stuff too.
....oh and the literal years of backwards compatibility doesnt hurt either. Still... PC gaming be expensive tho.
Aren't engineering samples usually running at a lower clock? Also, how many 2080 Tis can hit 2385MHz?
I hope this is RTX 3080 and the Ti/90 version is 50% improvement
Also end of generation cards. Few people would have felt the urge to upgrade for games rooted in the GTX 660, and it made sense to wait and make sure what you buy is next-gen proof. I think Ampere is going to see altogether different sales numbers - providing they can keep the price down. They need to make sure a PS5 equivalent card at the very least costs less than the entire console does. And even there I think there might be a problem since most people will need to upgrade every part of their system to keep up with next gen.
We'll see, but I strongly suspect a lot of people will migrate from PC to consoles this coming generation. Especially since it's launching in the deepest recession since the 1930s, and the price gap between a gaming PC and a console will be substantial.
Dethroning a 2080 Ti at this point would be a goal in 2020 of 5700XT's successor, not a high-end AMD/RDNA2 card.
This is 3080 most probably.
Yes and the drivers are usually bad too. It can also be a "controlled leak" - NV is pretty good at muddying the waters this way.
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Well, current expectations from everything leaked so far would put 3070=2080Ti, 3080 would be 2080Ti +20+30% and the top end card(s) (Titan and possibly a 3090 later) should land around 2080Ti +50% or so.
This would be in line with a process change on Turing base. But maybe they did ran into clocking issues and the chips won't go above the same ceiling as Turing. Then all bets are off.
This would be in line with a process change on Turing base. But maybe they did ran into clocking issues and the chips won't go above the same ceiling as Turing. Then all bets are off.
Videocardz is also posting benches from leakers. I was expecting 15-30% jump from the 2080ti Can't wait to upgrade !
What I really want to know is if the ray tracing performance is actually almost quadruple that of equivalent Turing cards. Obviously, those benchmarks aren't going to tell us that.
It's super important for me in particular as ray tracing has been my holy grail for well over a decade now. Damn, I need it...
It's super important for me in particular as ray tracing has been my holy grail for well over a decade now. Damn, I need it...
If the 2080Ti crusher is $400 (or $350 if I'm feeling lucky,) that 3070 is going to look real funny at $550+
AMD won't drop prices. Looke at their past few generations, difference between Nvidia counterparts is minimal.
I also think that is the 3080; no way the performance gain isn't better than Turing. Sounds like maybe it will be something like a ~30% performance gain compared to Turing cards with similar core counts. So perhaps a 2304-2560 core 3060 will edge out the 2080 a bit in performance.
Yeah won't expect cheap cards from AMD, especially not the 2080ti/3080 equivalent.
I really hope you are correct. 30% for 3080 and 60% for 3090/80Ti will be huge for next gen games.
AMDs 2080Ti beater wont be 100+ dollars cheaper than Nvidias xx70(2080Ti beater).
Ive resigned myself to paying 500+ dollars for the xx70.
AMDs equivalent will be within spitting distance of that.
What im really curious about is AMDs RT solution and if more console ports will be supporting that instead of RTX.
Isn't RTX just a brand? For DX12 games raytracing is done with DXR. Pascal doesn't even have RTX and it can run raytracing.
Yeah, that's very strange. It seems like these numbers can't be right or that there will eventually be another card between the two.
Yeah it is just a brand of technology but like Nvidia had all those different enhancements that were Nvidia specific, would games that support RTX and have Nvidia backing enable Raytracing just because AMD cards have their own Raytracing solution?
I dont think so.
I figured console ports with AMD Raytracing would have the feature as DXR or something and games that specifically use Nvidias solution would be RTX.
The question is are more games going to port console raytracing to RTX or to hardware agnostic Raytracing?
What features are you talking about? DLSS? That's not a ray tracing feature. Quake 2? That implementation is the basis for VulkanRT
Yeah, DXR, the official Vulkan ray tracing extension, and VKRay (Nvidia's internally-developed antecedent to the latter) are 100% vendor-agnostic. The only reason DXR and RTX are practically synonymous is that neither AMD nor Intel currently offer GPUs that support it.
I don't think there will be anything architecturally special about the x90. This will be about price and consumer psychology. Nvidia is using a different model number so they can charge a higher price. Like with the 2080 Ti, people complained a lot because the price was 50% higher than the 1080 Ti. I think if they had just called it 2090 instead they would have gotten fewer complaints. Just like when they originally introduced the Titan cards.
There are a lot of people who get it in their head that they are going to buy a specific model, like the 3070 or whatever, before it is announced. Maybe because they have previously bought x70 cards and think "this is my lane". If the next x70 card gets announced and it is a lot more expensive than they are used to, they get mad. They don't want to go to an x60 card when they have bought x70 in the past.
Nvidia wants to push its customers toward the higher priced products, and they think they can do this by gradually increasing the prices of each model. You may continue to always buy x70 cards, but eventually they cost as much as the x80 used to, so Nvidia has gotten you to switch to the higher priced lane. With Turing they took it too far and tried to raise the price too much at once.
Bro, we are talking medium to high end dont put Intel in there.
Ahh twas my confusion. RTX DXR who can keep up these days.
We should expect Raytracing enabled console games to be ported with DXR support that hopefully AMDs cards are able to play at console settings right? Right?
Yes. The Bethesda games are up in the air, but since VulkanRT is based on Nvidia's work (and works similarly to DXR) there shouldn't be much issue
Since the announce of Ampere on 7nm I expected a 3080 performing like that(25-30%) better than a 2080 ti.
A 2080 super is just 10-15% behind a ti
What makes me sad is the possibility about a no show 3070 at launch.
With a 3080 30% stronger than a 2080 ti I think is doable a 3070 5-10% ahead of a 2080 ti.
Please let's not start this bullshit like there was with console teraflops. We will know in a few months.
I honestly can't see them pushing the prices higher up as they are now. Expect it to be similar as 2070 at release.
As more and more specs leak out I'm struggling to figure out which 3000 series card I want to get... Majority of the time my PC will be connected to 1440p @ 144hz monitor so I know even the 3070 should in theory crush that. I am mainly trying to estimate how often I will bring my PC out to the couch so I can game on a nice screen in 4k. Do PC games utilize any of the rendering techniques that consoles do to avoid rendering in native 4k ? I'm playing TLOU2 and at 1440p the IQ is just amazing.
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