It's hardware from quite a few years later than 2005 consoles, so it's definitely not nearly last gen. There's a lot more to hardware than clocks and flops.
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(Rumor) Witcher 3 is coming to Switch in September?
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I mean, I think PC on Low settings at 720p is a decent starting point to see how the comparison would be, obviously LoDs, draw distance, will see cutbacks, texture resolution as well, probably many meshes won't have the highest level of detail of the other versions, the resolution will probably be between 720p and 648p docked and 480p/432p undocked... But the game will still be The Witcher 3, with the visual identity fully intact.
It's always the same with every port, really. So many games have already come out that the kind of compromises you can expect for a good port are known by everyone. But it's always the same story.
Yeah I expect this to surprise some people here with how good it can look given the proper care and optimization.
And then other people will probably call it unplayable.
I can't get people being okay with possibility of a game as detailed as this one running at 400p. That would kill all its visual identity. I'm not saying a downgrade isn't bearable, but this game running at PS Vita resolution and not being able of recognize anything because of the blurriness is way far from okay.
I think it's going to be completely possible just a lot of Era will just be "unimpressed" by it because it's dynamic 720p docked with it reaching as low as 320p, reduced foliage etc at frame rates as low as 18fps during intense parts. And undocked will have a more stable frame rate but with 320p being more common resolution in undocked mode.
I can completely see this kind of thing happening as a Switch Port. I don't know why others can't see it getting a port with these kinds of sacrifices.
I can completely see this kind of thing happening as a Switch Port. I don't know why others can't see it getting a port with these kinds of sacrifices.
I doubt gta or bioshock will come at all
Take 2 aren't much better than EA or Activision when it comes to the switch
Probably already said/thought about, but what if the game was drastically changed/simplified graphic wise, something akin cell shading with simplified geometry/effects/physic while retaining the quests/structure/story... ?
Hiding the trade-offs with "toon"/whatever shader or something like that
Hiding the trade-offs with "toon"/whatever shader or something like that
That's probably way too much work to do for a port. Is it so hard to believe that they could scale back certain settings and optimize the code for the newer hardware in the Switch to get reasonable visuals and performance? I'm not expecting anything above 720p (probably not even getting to that) but I think it will probably look okay on the Switch screen.
That DF potato actually runs the game better than I expected lol. Two things seem to be the issue: CPU power and memory bandwidth. When both are eliminated, then the potato runs at a solid 30 FPS. My guess is this port will run at 576p docked/400-ish p unlocked, with a frame rate that maintains 30 FPS for the most part but can drop to 23-25 in Crookbag Bog or Novigrad.
Not at all, Doom was a nice surprise (even more with the later patches), it's probably possible but i'm skeptical about the end result given the nature of the game (open world, already 30 fps on PS4/xbox one,...)
I can't wait to be proven wrong though, regarding my theory/fantasy if handled by Bluepoint Games i don't think it would be too much work but yeah i'm probably dreaming ^^
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if they use the 1.78GHz clock, they can overcome that cpu bottleneck
Good point! I guess DOOM and MK11 use the original 1GHz, right? A bump for games that need could be a life saver for Switch ports like this that need the extra CPU performance. Maybe they can also increase the memory bandwidth? Would make things much better (I think).
If such a sustained bump is possible with the heat profile of the Switch, then this would be the moment to do it.
according to modders, the increased cpu speed doesn't hurt the battery too much. I think they said it took BotW from 2.5 hours to 1.5-2 hours and it didn't get too hot.
Interesting. Battery is not my main concern: even playing 2 hours of Witcher before needing to charge is great. But it's good that it doesn't get too hot when doing that, since a broken Switch is not something I'm willing to risk for this port.
10 minutes before he did:
If this rumor is true then they've lost control, but this whole story (6 months of rumors and getting people excited) is actually excellent marketing ;)
However if it has to be denied or is streaming or a Scramble (or a bad port!) this will be a massive let-down for a lot of people now. But it starts to become difficult to keep my expectations in check with this, with all these leaks around.
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It had nothing to do with streaming.
The first leak we had was a retailer listing, which would not have ever happened if it was streaming. There's no spin off either. Its going to be The Witcher III GOTY/Complete Edition or nothing
Declining to comment, is like the worst thing CDProjekt could have done if they wanted to put this to rest lol.
IIRC the TX1 has a software solution that makes up for the poor memory bandwidth that DF doesn't ever seem to address. I remember some posters here have talked about it quite a lot.
prior to launch (or even reveal), the foxconn leak had a stress test were the switch was clocked to 1.78GHz/921MHz and running for 8 days. I'm certain heat wouldn't kill the thing
Most Switch owners are buying games on that platform for the portability. If the gameplay and functionality is there, then the sacrifices are acceptable. 480p on a 6" screen doesn't look too bad. Obviously it will look like dogshit when docked.
There is that Witcher 3 mod where all the combat encounters are replaces with Gwent matches
What has been clear since the lunch of the Switch is that battery life is not a discussion at all for that system.
My guess is that it's for 3 reasons:
Maybe the witcher 3 doesn't run well on the stock switch, but with 1.78Ghz CPU & 921Mhz GPU it's ok.
My guess is that it's for 3 reasons:
- It's a hybrid so not mobile only
- It has USB-C
- Other devices aren't better
Maybe the witcher 3 doesn't run well on the stock switch, but with 1.78Ghz CPU & 921Mhz GPU it's ok.
There was also a tile based thing that I can never remember the name of that Maxwell architecture has to help improve effective bandwidth. Tile based rasterization maybe?
Ah, The Era Switch Cycle:
- "Impossible" port gets rumoured
- Heated specs debate breaks out and port gets dismissed
- Rumors continue
- Debate goes to how far graphics would need to be sacrificed Vs Team Streaming
- Game releases and is (usually) looking a lot better than people imagined
- Users debate and blurriness and frame rate come into the debate, game dismissed for not being 1:1 port with hardware more powerful than Switch
- Digital Foundry give the numbers
- Because of the numbers 85% of those who supported the port claiming it to be amazing now suddenly disappointed despite verbally saying it looked great, people against it from the beginning gloat that it's officially not 1:1 to other ports claiming it as a waste of development time
- Another impossible port gets rumored, repeat cycle
- "Impossible" port gets rumoured
- Heated specs debate breaks out and port gets dismissed
- Rumors continue
- Debate goes to how far graphics would need to be sacrificed Vs Team Streaming
- Game releases and is (usually) looking a lot better than people imagined
- Users debate and blurriness and frame rate come into the debate, game dismissed for not being 1:1 port with hardware more powerful than Switch
- Digital Foundry give the numbers
- Because of the numbers 85% of those who supported the port claiming it to be amazing now suddenly disappointed despite verbally saying it looked great, people against it from the beginning gloat that it's officially not 1:1 to other ports claiming it as a waste of development time
- Another impossible port gets rumored, repeat cycle
Oh shit...I just saw how that read. I MEANT WHEN YOUR IN HIGH SCHOOL i feel stupid
Add to the end:
- previous impossible port gets cited as reason new impossible port is possible
- people against new impossible port argue why the previous impossible port doesn't count.
Tom Phillips is a journalist with a track record of several correct leaks (and a few mistakes, too).
Ha ha. I understood what you meant, but yeah, it could be read... That way.
Yep. It's a cycle that will always be a part of Nintendo gaming in some form.
Yeah but the problem there was a stupid sharpening filter they enabled during handheld mode. Plenty of subnative games look ok on Switch like Snake Pass or Doom or Wolfenstein.
That's not at all common though, it happens in specific areas. I've seen people act like it's the average.
Also Torna looks better overall, even in Gormott.
This is just pathetic. The worst are the people going after the people happy about the port and criticizing them for accepting playing the game in those conditions... Who the hell are they to tell us how we should enjoy playing the game ? If we value more playing it on the Go than 1080p, why the hell do you care ?
Yup, Torna looks really good. XBC2 OG was a bit unoptimised (it had a rather small team working on it, as well, so that was the unfortunate result). Still a top 4 game on the Switch for me, though.
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