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[Rumor] Valve is working on Steam Cloud Gaming
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Makes sense. Steam streaming is already excellent - it was my best 'cloud' experience running Steam off a amazon machine and using a VPC to trick it to think it was in my local network.
I just wonder if it's going to be a software service - an all you can eat catalog - or if they'll simply spin up a remote machine and let you access your existing/purchased Steam catalog. For the latter I'm not sure why they'd really need to change any terms with publishers/developers.
I just wonder if it's going to be a software service - an all you can eat catalog - or if they'll simply spin up a remote machine and let you access your existing/purchased Steam catalog. For the latter I'm not sure why they'd really need to change any terms with publishers/developers.
Why? It's great as an option. It's not going to replace anything anytime soon.
Would not surprise me - and it'd also instantly kill Stadia considering Steam has a lot more games than the couple Stadia games that exist
Pretty safe to say they would do this, have to create a safety net for themselves in case this style of gaming is a success.
Because you'll soon have Walmart, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, Google, Netflix, Valve, EA - and dozens more offering these services and sooner or later - games will become one giant cart blanche of subscriptions.
I love comments like these.
When there's new tech and publishers/devs want to experiment and give more choices to access games, you have people calling every new *thing*nonsense and they wish for failures.
We had the same shit with Digital games, subscription models and now Cloud.
I don't really think these 'pure' cloud services are a good idea for consumers or gaming in general.
But an additional service that allows me to play the games i already own: On my local device; streamed from my local device to another device (free); streamed from the cloud entirely (additional subscription) - i don't see how that's a bad thing. That's what xCloud is going to be, right? And that's kindasorta how i see Sony going with PSNow ... eventually.
What is that attitude about? Never wanted to play your games while away from home? Dont like options?
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See you in 5 years when it's half baked and then abandoned within 6 months.
I have bad news for you. This isn't a fad, it's just that cloud/streaming didn't quite catch up in gaming yet. It's an enormous reality in other applications already, and gaming will get there. Multiple developed countries already have good enough connections in most places that could handle a solid gaming service that is located elsewhere with only minor lag, and with 5G and further developments it'll only improve. For countless consumers the thought of not having to own a hardware to play the latest games is gonna be great. The thought of not having to plug in a device into the TV but being able to just play it on your phone, tablet, laptop no matter where you are: it's the inevitable future of gaming. Movies are there already and so is music. Non-gaming software has all kinds of scenarios like that, too. Games will arrive too.
I wonder if they will go with Nvidia Tesla P40 and merge with Geforce Now, or with a traditional hosting, or with the equivalent of Nvidia Tesla at AMD (I dunno what they have for GPU virtualization). And regarding the game catalog, it's also an xCloud competitor.
It just won't lol.
Premium choice will still be hardware for a long time but dude - it will be the most popular way to play games in the next 5-10 years. I wish that wasn't the case personally - but you can't deny the facts.
I binned off PC gaming near to two years ago. Having my Steam catalogue spring back into life with streaming would be amazing. I definitely hope this doesn't fall on its face and will throw money at it.
If the Steam Cloud service ends up with a situation where Steam is a service where:
- You can buy the game and have it installed locally anywhere on any number of machines, to be played as usual at your discretion
- You can stream any game you have installed somewhere to any smart device running Android or iOS, from whatever PC it's installed on, for free
- You can stream any game you bought on the Steam store, regardless of whether you have it installed or own hardware that can run it, to any smart device, for a monthly/yearly fee
-on top of all the other features provided to users and developers... then I don't quite see how any single other service could compete in terms of services provided. If the price is reasonable, even I could see myself using it, because I already have a great amount of games in my library that I often can't properly enjoy because I'm now left with just my tablet PC that can only run old/indie games.
- You can buy the game and have it installed locally anywhere on any number of machines, to be played as usual at your discretion
- You can stream any game you have installed somewhere to any smart device running Android or iOS, from whatever PC it's installed on, for free
- You can stream any game you bought on the Steam store, regardless of whether you have it installed or own hardware that can run it, to any smart device, for a monthly/yearly fee
-on top of all the other features provided to users and developers... then I don't quite see how any single other service could compete in terms of services provided. If the price is reasonable, even I could see myself using it, because I already have a great amount of games in my library that I often can't properly enjoy because I'm now left with just my tablet PC that can only run old/indie games.
I'd personally use this service if they offer a free tier like Stadia, or at least a reasonable monthly package.
10 years ago: "Can't wait for digital gaming to die, it will hurt the industry"
Now: "Can't wait for Cloud gaming to die, it will hurt the industry".
Now: "Can't wait for Cloud gaming to die, it will hurt the industry".
If this means I can stream/play any of my Steam games on my phone.. yes please, yes yes.
Difference between this and Stadia is that my Steam library has hundreds of games, on Stadia I have 0.
I am not sure how much I would pay for this feature. If this was free, I would use it. 10e per month? Maybe.
Difference between this and Stadia is that my Steam library has hundreds of games, on Stadia I have 0.
I am not sure how much I would pay for this feature. If this was free, I would use it. 10e per month? Maybe.
I'm expecting this to have a subscription fee but with no games included - you'll also have to buy the games. But when you buy a game, you'll also own it for local PC play.
Because my next apartment is going to have a 100Mbit upload, I'll probably just keep remote playing my own PC so this won't be useful for me.
Because my next apartment is going to have a 100Mbit upload, I'll probably just keep remote playing my own PC so this won't be useful for me.
I think this would be more like buying the games on Steam and having the option to stream them instead. Maybe free at 1080p 60 and everything above on a subscription.
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You already can do that if you have good internet connection at home. They launched Steam Remote Play Anywhere earlier this year.
Well... unlike their UI overhaul, they at least have a fully functional streaming backbone already. All they have to do is set up a city-sized supercomputer/server farm somewhere to be able to handle their entire userbase jumping in to try the service when it launches.
If this has good hardware, this will kill Stadia. Steam having this option can be a game changer.
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I would bet this is more of a competition to XCloud than Stadia, as Steam already provides direct streaming from your own "console", and this would be just an additional service to play games you cannot run natively.
I had already expected this after the "Remote Play Together" update, as I could not see any extra feature growth in that area that didnt go into this (streaming from Steam servers).
I had already expected this after the "Remote Play Together" update, as I could not see any extra feature growth in that area that didnt go into this (streaming from Steam servers).
Steam has its own server infrastructure.
There have been rumors of a new revision of the Steam Controller for a while now.
Will be interesting but there's no way valve has the same server foot print as google or the money google has to build it out
plus GeForce now already has steam so not sure I see the point
Hope it's true I have a decent steam library.
They'll use whatever it's best for the service, meaning Azure/AWS/GC.
Just like Sony is going to do with PS Now.
They'll use whatever it's best for the service, meaning Azure/AWS/GC.
Just like Sony is going to do with PS Now.
My guess is that the idea here is that this would allow you to own the games and be able to play them without cloud support once you have a better pc. You can stream if your computer is not powerful enough.