So let's say all those recent crazy rumors turn true;
Nintendo/Microsoft vs Google/Sega vs Sony/Take 2?
What a crazy time.
Nintendo/Microsoft vs Google/Sega vs Sony/Take 2?
What a crazy time.
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Rumor/Speculation: Market speculates that Sony could buy Take Two (SEE UPDATE IN OP)
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This thread made it to 23 pages when it was wrapped up with the first post.
Everyone citing Minecraft as a reason why GTA wouldn't be exclusive is forgetting Minecraft was already out for pretty much everything before the acquisition.
What the absolute fuck. It feels like in the span of 2 weeks we went from "gee I wonder what next gen will be like" to "ALL DIGITAL STREAMING A LA CARTE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN"
It's a number pulled from my ass, yes. Just like most of the hot takes in here :P.
I'm talking in facts.
GTA 1 came out on PC and Playstation.
Sony had the console version exclusive to themselves.
GTA2 came out on PC, PS & later DC (not Saturn).
It debuted on Playstation in the console space.
GTA3 came to Playstation first, literally exclusive for a year or so before PC, and two years before the Xbox port.
It is perfectly reasonable to say the brand had some Sony exclusivity and was associated with Playstation.
You can choose not to make the association, but it exists and those are the facts.
Isn't 'advanced board level discussions' incredibly specific? When these rumors pop up they usually say 'company X is in talks to acquire company Y' or even 'advanced talks'
This makes it sound like they are past this phase and Sony is evaluating whether to close the deal or not
No offense to Jason but these rumors are not game leaks or development hell stories. If this rumor has any merit it will show up on something like the WSJ
This makes it sound like they are past this phase and Sony is evaluating whether to close the deal or not
No offense to Jason but these rumors are not game leaks or development hell stories. If this rumor has any merit it will show up on something like the WSJ
I really don't see Sony paying that much for anyone and would it really make sense to buy Rockstar who puts out one game per generation?
The continued viability of those IPs then becomes Google's concern. It'd be a similar issue with a sale to Sony. Going from selling your games on 4 platforms worldwide to just one is good for that one platform (Sony in this case) yet less good for the reach of those IPs, and potentially less desirable for some of their licensing partners (NBA, WWE)
Might get laughed out of this thread but I don't think this would be the smartest purchase for Sony to make. Can't imagine all the overhead huge mess this would cause with this acquisition. If Sony wants to go big with a purchase, get some smaller devs like insomniac or something. Not this huge beast that would need to be tamed.
In for this future because of that last bullet point let's go.
Eeehhhh... Sony is not close to Apple, Alphabet, and Microsoft, and they're much closer to TakeTwo in market cap. Apple, Google, and Microsoft's market cap are all around $850 billion. Sony's is $50 billion. Take2's is about $10 billion.
If MSFT/Apple/Alphabet are "tier 1 companies" and Take2 is a "Tier 6," then Sony is not a Tier 2.
Also, Sony Pictures makes up a relatively small portion of their income. Sony's Financial Services division in Asia is their most profitable, followed by gaming, then their semiconductor business. It was only until recently that Sony Pictures was not a big loser for them financially.
Compared to sony yeah. I mean Sony has their flaws but if TT acquisition or whatever agreement would means, if that guarantees more sp from Rockstar, I'm for it. In the MS hands almost surely I suspect doesn't lean to more sp games but with Sony behind there are more hopes by TakeTwo for more single player games I guess. But of course if wont change anything I don't care about bit.
MIND BLOWING if true..
Do it Sony, I've love to see what the American media says after saying MS acquired AAA studios... when clearly they did not.
Do it Sony, I've love to see what the American media says after saying MS acquired AAA studios... when clearly they did not.
you're forgetting that T2 has a say, and they don't just look at the numbers and go, "okay you bid the highest you're the winner."
for a multi-billion-dollar company, no one just looks at the highest bid and calls it a day.
lol, Nintendo won't care one bit if this happens, they hardly get Rockstar games as it is.
I've never seen a buyout at nearly 100%. Usually closer to 30%. Still very expensive, just seems like good value considering the IP. It still a massive purchase relative to aDon't though.
MIND BLOWING if true..
Do it Sony, I've love to see what the American media says after saying MS acquired AAA studios... when clearly they did not.
Do it Sony, I've love to see what the American media says after saying MS acquired AAA studios... when clearly they did not.
How the hell does this work?! Nah, this shit ain't happening. A partnership and/or exclusive publishing agreement I'd believe, but acquisition by Sony as a first party? Thanks for the laughter guys, we Brits need it.
Edit: Oh, it's just rumour-mongering then? Never mind then. iraqipropagandaminister.jpg
Edit: Oh, it's just rumour-mongering then? Never mind then. iraqipropagandaminister.jpg
Not disagreeing with the point, but they've tried to buy Insomniac. Insomniac doesn't want to be purchased.
Rumour would make sense if Sony were pre-empting a possible purchase of Take Two by Microsoft.
I'm expecting the plot twist where this is just a rumor and then Microsoft turns around and buys them. At least the games wouldn't be in a walled garden and still come to PC
Don't go into those Etcetera threads about Disney acquiring Fox, they are legit depressing.
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No opinion on this rumor, but Sony does have the balance sheet to do this deal in a hypothetical scenario. Sony has ~$15B of cash on hand right now and it's not uncommon for companies to do deals that are even bigger than themselves. Sony has plenty of cash/debt options to do a deal of this size, if they want to. On the flip side, Japanese companies have traditionally been more conservative with cash spending compared to American comppnies.
with the money required to buy take two, they can buy like 50 smaller studios, have a much bigger output than "1 big game (gta or rdr) each gen and an NBA game each year), and not deal with the redundancy of being a massive publisher buying another massive publisher.
Im not saying they don't have a say. I'm saying the issues you are bringing up apply to Sony as well. The viability of their IPs, and their value, would run into those same concerns.
It's the reason I'm not sure somethinfnlike this (much like the EA/MS rumors) are all that realistic. You'd be paying $15 billion for Take2 and then immediately reducing their value.
I don't believe it, but imagine the carnage if Sony owned GTA, Read Dead, Bioshock, Firaxis (and Civ via a licensing deal) etc. Then they'd have publishing deals for Borderlands etc. Mental.
it means people on Sony's board of directors are discussing whether they should buy take two or not. it would also mean they believe they have the funds secured to make an offer. there would be no point in discussing it if they didn't think they had the money to do so.
after discussing it they would then vote and then if approved they would then begin negotiations with take two. I have to imagine take two would have at least mentioned the idea of being open to an acquisition also. It's a lot of fucking money and the fact it's reached board level discussion means it's being taken seriously. whether the rumor is true is a different story.
for everyone else: was there talk in Sony's last investor call about them looking at maybe acquiring some companies?
Doesn't really make sense for Microsoft either unless they continue to release on Playstation. Buying Take Two or EA or other big publishers like Ubisoft makes no sense to one holder and limit releases.
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