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Sony rebooting Silent Hill series - Update: Maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Still sounds too good to be true, im fucking believing it when I see it with my godamn eyeballs.
Thanks for sharing everything. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pretty excited right now.
It definitely has action horror elements but that said it's not like most SH titles have been shy about combat. You shoot and maim a lot of shit in SH2 for example, way more than most modern horror games.
Silent Hill reboot turns out to be an ARG in which more and more credible rumors are leaked only to have no solid evidence ever materialize.
Sony thinking a new SH would be a system seller is pretty surprising (and interesting) considering the series' downfall post-PS2.
Do they think that way because of the huge hype surrounding Silent Hills back then ?
Do they think that way because of the huge hype surrounding Silent Hills back then ?
Same, here's to hoping they at least keep a grainy, noisy and film like image.
Pretty much. I'm sure they're also aware of the reason of the series' downfall was because it was handed to different developers. Having the original masterminds, so to say, will put a lot of people at ease at the quality of the title.
It's not like anything else they have tried with Toyama has been a system seller so what they got to lose? If the game is good they gain the goodwill of the fanbase at least.
After we got seperated in that long hallway.....
Damn, one of the best trailers ever, still watch it today.
I'd imagine from Sony's perspective it's less "system seller" on its own and more "feather in their cap" when combined with other exclusives.
To my understanding, the situation is a bit of a unique one. Toyama has good standing in the company because he's polite, professional, talented, and can do a lot with meager budgets. That said, neither the Siren or Gravity Rush games set the world on fire, they did make back money but neither were smash-out hits. Toyama wants to do another horror game, and Sony is completely fine with that, but if it was a new Siren game or a new IP, the actual budget would have to be on the slimmer side due to past performance indicating while both will do fine, neither would probably break out of a niche.
So enter in Konami about two years ago hunting for developers to develop two Silent Hill games. I wish I had a better understanding of how talks even began because that's a huge missing piece, but somehow or another Sony had the thought and talked with Konami still looking to fund two SH games that they could get in contact and develop a game. Toyama would be able to make a horror game like he wanted, it'd be behind an IP many would like to see Toyama work on and has more market share than Siren or another new IP does, Konami just want a quality SH game to help their reputation get back on track and been shipping around for the "right pitch". The deal was negotiated in early 2019, Sony Japan Studio is developing it composed of the Siren/Gravity Rush team, but they also contacted a lot of people who worked on Silent Hill previously to help with it, which is why people like Akira and Masahiro Ito are on board as well.
In terms of cost, Sony and Konami are both fitting the bill of development, Sony is making it, Konami gets a share of each copy sold and just partially have to fund development. From Konami's side having a Sony first party studio develop the game, with them only partially funding development and though they receive a smaller percentage cut from sales, they also don't have to pay for marketing or anything so they're cool with it and the quality may help their image. Sony for them I don't think they expect to set the world on fire, but the actual budget is nothing compared to some other games they fund, the budget is even made smaller due to Konami helping out, and this title has more of a chance as a horror game to succeed with the brand recognition and the demand for a good SH game from horror fans than a new Siren or IP maybe would based on past performance. It also helps many at Sony do like Toyama and his team and want to give them a chance to be able to stand out more and gain more recognizability.
I do hear the plan is the game will be revealed this year, (and at this point it's nearing being in development for about a year and a half almost), but it's hard to speak concretely about these things.
I also will add with the SH stuff, I received some word on some other things I'm not sharing which over the course of the next year will confirm or deny to me if what I was shared was true or not ahead of time. Some will feel that's an excuse I have "things that can prove it I can't share", but all I can do for now is be open and honest about it.
We should call the time between Silent Hill 4 and the next Team Silent-oriented release the Long Hallway.
Considering what we know so far, I'm sure it'll be a quality game but I'm wondering if those outsourced projects hurt the brand in the long run or if everything will be forgotten whenever this game is released !
Seriously? So you would rarher have a franchise die bc a publisher only wants to do slot machines?
There is a big difference between reviving a franchise like silent hill or bayonetta 2, or moneyhat a relevent franchise an have a hostage timed exclusive like rise of the tomb raider.
Come on. I hope they are not skimping on the budget. Needs to be on par with the recent RE remakes in production values. Maybe better since it is next gen only. Japan Studio always gets the short end of the stick with budgets.
It's not skimping, just Toyama and his team are better with budgets than most and they often ask for meager budgets, which actually has done well for them as even if they don't set the world on fire their games do make money back. This game does have a bigger budget than their past works.
REmake and RE7 are the only games that attempt straight horror. Most of the other games in the series are better classified as horror-thrillers. Even RE7 sort of morphs into Evil Dead after a certain point. They're scary in the same way trying to swim away from a shark is scary.
All the Silent Hill games are super slow. It's adrenaline versus a feeling of dread.
Thanks for the lengthy post !
So I guess this new SH won't be released until 2023 ?
That part about Konami wanting to get back on track in terms of reputation is interesting. Hopefully, this means MGS6 is in development as well.
Yeah Sony has pretty good amount of system sellers already. Spider-Man, Horizon, GOW, Gran Turismo, whatever ND is making next. Horror is something that is missing from their library and Silent Hill exclusive is a coup. Maybe the Bloodborne of the PS5 generation. No pressure.
I don't know when the release is unfortunately, but I also kinda' doubt they do. Just by the time this is revealed it'll probably been in dev for around 1 & a half to two years, and typically this team likes to reveal games 1-2 years before release, though there are some exceptions.
Would be fitting.
I remember Konami pushing the Dolby Surround capabilities of SH2 really hard back in '01.
Sooo... A stroke of luck for Silent Hill fans? Konami was looking for funding help and a developer for the IP, meanwhile Sony was trying to figure out the way forward for Toyama's team, who also really wanted to do horror again. If this actually pans out, the stars aligned for Silent Hill.
I was beginning to think I wouldn't be buying a PS5, but...
Now I'll hope that there's some truth to the Castlevania rumors as well.
Now I'll hope that there's some truth to the Castlevania rumors as well.
Why can't the people who seemingly have seen "proof" of it's existence just tell us what the proof is? What is it that KatharsisT saw? An early cut of a trailer? Assets? I'm interested in why it's cool to tell people "I've seen proof" without saying what it actually is.
I actually really agree with you on the first point. I'm just bummed in general these days when a studio gets purchased, whether its Insomniac by Sony or Double Fine by MS. I realize the studio gets more support, but at the end of the day, it gates access to those games. I suppose the saving grace is more publishers using PC/Steam as a neutral territory, but that might not be every release and not everyone has access to that either.
But... I think situations like this are pretty different. Getting the original SH team back together for a SH reboot was just never going in to the cards with Konami in charge. So personally I'm putting those reservations aside on this one.
Yeah, I went with four years of development but I guess they could make it in three years, especially if they have quite a lot of vets in their ranks.
OK. Good to know they are getting more resources for this project.
Because the proof spoils the identity of people who leaked it.
Well in that case this isnt a "moneyhat". Was Konami seriously about to release Silent Hill on PS5/XSX/PC? I dont have to answer because you know the answer to that.
I actually agree with you that Sony shouldnt moneyhat a 3rd party release just to get 6 month exclusivity. Its a waste of resources specially if the rumor is true that Sony is funding 100% the game.
Do you have an issue with my statement or the rumor? If anything you should be upset with Konami. They dont give a shit about console gaming in case you didnt know. Sony on the other hand should not be funding 3rd party games. If it will be exclusives on the system then that is fine in my view because it doesnt make sense to fund a game that will end up elsewhere 6 months down the line.
Both MS and Sony have exclusives for next gen we dont know about. If MS funds the next Siownt Hill, I wouldn't be upset. If they money hatted a game like Tomb Raider then yes. There is a difference. Same idea for Sony.
Since Sato works at Nintendo now I guess they can't bring him back. :( Loved his character designs, his artstyle is amazing.
The problem is that it's confidential stuff that could burn some people in the industry, including myself and friends. You can't share what you want. That's the whole point of Resetera, just like Jason Schreier won't share what he saw or what he's been told directly and by who.
Mods are here to do the job. If you wanna see the proofs, become a mod, simple as that.
Always assumed this would be the case, minus the Silent Hill IP.
And I'm pretty sure Kojima too is reprising whatever he had been working on for Silent Hills.
Can't wait to finally see ray tracing put to good use with scary mirror reflections :P
Excited for both, but it will be a long wait.
And I'm pretty sure Kojima too is reprising whatever he had been working on for Silent Hills.
Can't wait to finally see ray tracing put to good use with scary mirror reflections :P
Excited for both, but it will be a long wait.
Thanks for sharing this! Do you think budget wise this is comparable to likes of RE7, Resident Evil 2 remake etc.. or would it be far cheaper than that?
Sorry, didn't phrase that very well. I meant no one thought HZD would have ever hit PC, and yet here we are.
No one can definitively say any Sony published game will not go to PC - especially now that Sony is testing the waters.
I don't know to budget of the game, tbh, but like I said previously, I assume it will have the same quality as the RE remakes.
I've talked with a few people before I shared it, I had heard murmurings at the start of this year and dug more into it, he and I have talked as well as I've talked with some others.
Transistor saw them. Dusk Golem has his own sources that I don't know and we shared what we knew after I got verified by Transistor.
That is so exciting to hear. Thank you for sharing!
A game with that level of polish will be awesome! I wonder if it will be open like SH2 or more linear... Cannot wait!
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