I see people here saying MS shoehorned Co op in the game and that this wasn't Kamiya's initial vision for the game. But is that factual at all? I recall the very first gameplay trailer showing co-op parts near the end.
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RUMOR: Nintendo has plans to revive a 'Dead and Buried' game (Update: Possibly Scalebound?)
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They'll have to be a lot more things different than the name to avoid any possible legal trouble from MS.
Babylon's Fall. Arguably the Granblue game as well, but PG aren't involved with that now. Don't know if they'll get the credits for it.
When Nintendo announces the next PG game after Astral Chain people are gonna be like:
"I can definitely see how Scalebound turned into this!"
"I can definitely see how Scalebound turned into this!"
As it's Microsoft, I assume PC gets all this too. Bring it on, sounds lovely!
I'm worried if it is real, media will start to bash on the game regardless of what it actually is, claiming that is bad because it's not as good visually as it could have been,... When really this could just be Kamiya wanting this game to be real and this would be good news for those who wanted to play that game (myself included). Again, all of this assuming this is real, even though i don't think it is.
I remember when the game was cancelled two years ago many people wished Nintendo or Sony stepped in to release it anyway.
I don't think that's true. People who were generally Platinum fans were upset. I don't think Xbox-only gamers who love Platinum games exist in large enough amounts to matter.
I don't think there's been any actual information on the why. Just speculation.
I would say you're being downright arrogant and dismissive there.
Microsoft literally had to buy half a dozen in order to make a statement. The sheer amount of criticism for their lackluster offerings in their platform were rather deafening. The whole point of building goodwill is to attract people to your platform, which wouldn't happen by offering something exclusively in another platform.
If Nintendo had a cinematic game they cancelled, only for Sony to revive it later, I can tell you there would be a riot.
"But Nintendo fans don't care because they don't want cinematic AAA games in their platform"
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When Nintendo announces the next PG game after Astral Chain people are gonna be like:
"I can definitely see how Scalebound turned into this!"
Exactly, please stop with that nonsense already.
haha I hope it's Scalebound. It would be funny if the game turns to be totally awesome, it would be a total slap on the face for MS
Pfffft, I hope this is true just for this pic to be relevant
oh, right! That would've been a good choice before this thread entered train wreck mode.
Grasshopper is making a couple games for Switch so maybe they would've gone for this
If that rumor is true, Microsoft is gonna get a reality check that Nintendo is not their friend.
I don't own an Xbox and I was upset about scalebound being cancelled since it would also be on pc
Well those fans would be like... huge babies too right?
Option 1: Scalebound never exists. Everyone who ever wanted it is miserable forever.
Option 2: Scalebound gets bought by Nintendo and Kamiya makes it. Microsoft gets over themselves and realizes that it's better to have the game into existence even if they don't make it, and comes across as a bigger more just company. Fans who have the switch are happy. People who like Kamiya are happy. More joy is brought into the world.
I don't know how anyone can say Option 1 is better than Option 2 without also admitting they're incredibly selfish. There's no secret Option 3 where it also comes to Xbox because Kamiya hates Microsoft.
I sometimes wonder how that narrative started when we only have minecraft on switch and phil saying some nice things on twiiter
people who think stuff like Ori could come to Switch is insane to me
It has being spread all across the internet. That they are the best friends, gonna share games and what not.
MS seems to want something to be there between the two though I'm not sure Nintendo is too keen.
Minecraft on both wii u and switch, cross play and promotion of the switch at their e3 show, and now Hellblade by their own studio.
Yeah I doubt it. Scalebounds core premise is pretty terrible. AI isn't anywhere near where it needs to be for a game where you rely on a companion for the entire game to be fun.
When you port beg so hard another platform's exclusive becomes exlusive to your platform of choice.
I kid
I kid
MS already would know Nintendo picked up the IP because they would have to sell it to them. If its re branded somehow then I dont see why MS would have any problems with it.
Microsoft is a fucking business, lol. That's a super naive thing you just wrote.
Microsoft builds goodwill for one reason only, attract more people to their ecosystem, so they can make more money. Having a property show up in a completely different platform but yours sends a completely wrong message.
I can easily tell you the PR Microsoft would get if such a thing were true would be incredibly negative. People would be crediting Nintendo for "saving" the project from Microsoft's incompetent hands.
There is an Xbox Live API that Microsoft used in Minecraft that is going to become available to more developers sometime in the future. It's not a Nintendo thing anymore than Epic's crossplay API is.
The first CGI trailer teased it at the end (see thumbnail).
The Fans are not gonna see it that way
If this is true, Phill is in for a shitshow of negative PR.
I mean... Did you see the hate Bayonetta 2's existence caused?
That doesn't necessarily mean coop tho just that there aren't other riders. I mean it could but it also couldn't.
Lol why would it be scalebound...and why do people suddenly care about scalebound now that Nintendo has a 0.0002% chance of being involved with it.
The Hellblade port was already being done before the buyout.
People should stop using it as an example of Microsoft being generous. It's no different from Star Fox Adventures being done by Rare after they were bought. There's contracts for this sorta thing.
Yes, and building goodwill from letting go of Scalebound could attract more people to their ecosystem. Compare that to keeping Scalebound from everyone, which is nothing but bad press.
That wouldn't be the narrative if Microsoft came out and said they wanted to give Kamiya the IP so he could have it he made somewhere else. The press about Bungie getting the rights to Destiny wasn't crazy negative towards Activision for example. People respect that kind of thing.
There are some videos on why Scalebound was cancelled:
MS wasn't willing to budge on creative choices, and working with them proved very stressful that Kamiya and Producer JP Kallems had to take a break for their mental health.
PG had some ideas on how to improve performance but Microsoft were unwilling to scale back on certain features.
With creative freedom to maybe scale (heh) things back and focus what works, the game could be quite good
MS wasn't willing to budge on creative choices, and working with them proved very stressful that Kamiya and Producer JP Kallems had to take a break for their mental health.
PG had some ideas on how to improve performance but Microsoft were unwilling to scale back on certain features.
With creative freedom to maybe scale (heh) things back and focus what works, the game could be quite good
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Nintendo letting Microsoft bringing Xbox Live to the Switch through Minecraft to enable cross-play.
I don't understand why releasing Scalebound on Switch would be bad for Microsoft though.
Minecraft is on everything and Nintendo said yes to the same offer MS gave to Sony about crossplay. Now you can say it was all politics and MS knew Sony's answer would be a no and the whole situation was designed to make Sony look bad but on the surface, it's not the bromance people make it out to be. Nintendo was coming off Wii U and had every incentive to get an edge.
As for Scalebound, we still haven't established Microsoft actually owns the code and design,just the general IP around scalebound. Nintendo could call it something else if Platinum repurposes the work done for Scalebound for the new Switch game.
The lead character is fugly and generic anyways and I hope they switch him up into something more palatable. (assuming it is Scalebound of course)
That would be hilarious, even better if it's excellent. Whether Microsoft own the IP and assets, who knows but Platinum could repurpose the idea for sure and call it something else.
It could really be simple, they couldn't put a good game together with Microsoft but some reflection and new ideas, they made it work. I don't think it's a knock on Microsoft, it just didn't work out. Now ignore Platinum never make another game for Microsoft, yeah maybe some strain there but that doesn't seem the case.
It could really be simple, they couldn't put a good game together with Microsoft but some reflection and new ideas, they made it work. I don't think it's a knock on Microsoft, it just didn't work out. Now ignore Platinum never make another game for Microsoft, yeah maybe some strain there but that doesn't seem the case.
And Microsoft and rare continued to release games on the gba and DS (Viva pinata, Diddy Kong racing, etc)
All Phil would have to do is put out a Tweet congratulating Kamiya and Nintendo.
I didn't know Gamingbrit worked at Platinum or Microsoft, I thought he was just a guy who just compared every game to DMC no matter how asinine.
This also fits into the new "good guy" persona they've been trying out lately.
This is huge, if it's actually scalebound. I fear for how it would look and the framerate too, judging as how rough assassins creed 3 and other ports look on switch.
I wanted megaman legends :(
I wanted megaman legends :(
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