You're not getting simultaneous releases of 3rd party games for a $10 monthly sub. Think more like $50.
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[Rumor/leak?] Lapresse.ca details the Google Stadia price, release date, launch details, line-up
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You're not getting simultaneous releases of 3rd party games for a $10 monthly sub. Think more like $50.
So insted of a netflix model, this is just a console that is not in ur house so u just renting it to use it by internet. Good luck google.
If the price of new games are extra cheap compared to other consoles and PC , they still might get a chance. I dont see them doing it though.
If the price of new games are extra cheap compared to other consoles and PC , they still might get a chance. I dont see them doing it though.
I'm not understand the criticism of having two options of buying a game(must be owned and not a timed rental) and a netflix-like subscription service. If you are required to pay for the monthly fee in order to play your owned games then that will be a major issue. I see Xcloud being similar as well with having both options.
Isn't this the original model Sony had with PS Now? Didn't they change it so that you don't need to buy the games anymore?
Premium, red, same diff. They still have Cobra Kai on the video side, and again still ad free YouTube and music which would be enough for me personally on top of the older game streaming
Great fucking job at launch where you need to buy a Chromecast Ultra then.
That's the thing though, people are attacking this from their current perspective of local play. This is a streaming service. This isn't for the hardcore because the hardcore don't want any latency issues or having to deal with buffering. This is for the casuals. BUT both the hardcore and the casual ate welcomed to play. The hardcore KNOW the cons of streaming (latency) and only THEY see those issues. The casuals? It'll be a great experience at $11.99 just like Netflix is even when it buffers sometimes.
They're charging you for new games? Can you download them and play offline at least? If not, this seems like an awful proposition.
At least with lots of digital games if they get removed from the store you can still play it but just cant redownload it. With this if something gets removed and you bought it you're probably screwed and will just lose your money.
So you have to be subscribed ($12 a month) to play games in 4K, and buy the games at full price on top of that? The subscription is mandatory regardless? Considering it mentions a free subscription with 1080p limit and no games, I'm assuming this is the case.
Trash service if true.
Trash service if true.
Any big 3rd party games? I know Microsoft has been making nice deals to get games on Gamepass (which is why I'm still interested in that expanding to more platforms than Google Stadia). But I imagine Google will also strike some deals to get games on their service day 1.
Agreed, not sure what people are upset about. The option to also purchase new games if you want to?
Again: They are a professional well-respected journalistic institution. They wouldn't let Google manipulate them into publishing "fake" information to gauge public reaction. If they found out Google used them in this fashion, bridges would be burned. It's a lose-lose proposition. Journalists typically receive press releases days in advance so they can write their pieces in advance to be published when the embargo is up. It's way more probable they just incorrectly set the embargo date/time in their database.
So far, no issues. This cannot be "free", or else no one would put games on it. Publishers have to have a source of money flow, especially for new games.
Because they can play that game on any [especially non-gaming-ready] hardware they already own?
They should also do trade-ins but these companies don't give a shit about the consumers.
Exactly not only that you are playing new games without actually having to own expensive hardware...google won't rent their servers for everyone for free this business model is exactly what I expected and I'm 99% sure that Microsoft Xcloud will also use the same business mode...this is how cloud processing services work wither its for gaming or other stuff..
Truthfully, this was always the way the thread would go. Short of Google giving all the games for free and even then..
I don't care if it falls or succeeds but the endless fearmonging and negatively for anything that is different for a supposed gaming enthusiasts forum is depressing.
casuals arent dumbfucks who wont notice lag. a video buffering is irritating, but the game buffering is worse
Yeah you can take the same $60 buy a game on Xbox and play it locally or stream it through XCloud. Why anyone would willingly purchase games on Stadia when Microsoft and Sony offer a better value proposition is beyond me
I think you're slightly underplaying the benefit of not owning hardware, though. It's not just a simple case of not having to buy it, though of course that's a benefit. It's not even the fact that you don't need space, or to pay for its power, or to listen to its fan or pay for repairs or replacements if it breaks, or the fact that - liberated from a plastic shell - you can "use it" anywhere you have a device and an internet connection. The main thing, to me, is that you're no longer constrained to a single chunk of hardware (or incremental upgrade in the case of the Pro and X, which obviously both represent another investment of money).
When the PS5 comes along, if you buy it, that's it - that processor's never getting faster, its never getting more RAM etc. The appeal of all cloud computing platforms, whether it's gaming using Stadia or any of the other million uses for cloud computing, it's that you can take something running on a certain configuration and then slap it on a different configuration as needs require. The story of consoles is that when they come out they're usually pretty good (especially as far as value for money goes) when compared to a PC, but then as the generation wears on, the PC tech outpaces consoles significantly - such that if you buy a mid-range PC today, you're going to absolutely cream the performance of a PS4. If you had the money, you could continually upgrade your PC such that you were always on the cusp of what's possible - and Stadia offers this, but without the need to constantly upgrade your hardware. In fact, you don't have any. A new PS4 game released today needs to work on hardware from 6 years ago. A new game released on Stadia won't need to work on hardware from 6 years ago. *This*, to me, is the key benefit of not owning the hardware.
Assuming cost is relatively the same, why would anyone choose to do this method over the tradtional way they have been doing it? The appeal at first was hopefully streaming games were cheaper.
No the sub is optional but the free version is limited to 1080p resolution
The 2020 version continues to sound great to me if it works. If I just need to buy the game and it works like if steam has this functionality, I just buy and launch at full fidelity no matter the hardware as long as I have the internet, sounds great.
yup. this is why I feel like xcloud will work better. As buying the game on xbox would probably just allow you to stream any game you have paid for. plus you have the advantage of just downloading and playing the game normally.
It sounds about what I expected. You were never going to be able to get new release games for $12 a month. Same reason Netflix doesn't have new release movies. You could save a ton of money by buying a month of Stadia and beating the game in that month, rather than buying it for $60. I'm only curious what they mean by "older" games. 6 months? A year?
My biggest disappointment is the fact that Chromecast is required (for now). I wanted play on my laptop.
Because Netflix doesn't have them? At least Stadia gives you the option. It's an option that's seemingly pointless when you can just buy it physically or on other more reliable services, but it is an option.
My biggest disappointment is the fact that Chromecast is required (for now). I wanted play on my laptop.
Because Netflix doesn't have them? At least Stadia gives you the option. It's an option that's seemingly pointless when you can just buy it physically or on other more reliable services, but it is an option.
Okkk.
Look man, I tested Stadia back in Nov/Dec. I had a great time with it. With that said, since I've experienced the service and it was FINE then (at 1080p) then I'm sure it'll be even greater at 4k/60.
It's a streaming service, people who pay for it know what they're getting themselves into.
But the benefit you're describing is so far down the road, and will not occur in a vacuum. We have no idea what XCloud will be like, or Playstation's next gen streaming solution. The benefit of Stadia will be readily apparent if it's a thriving service in 5-10 years - but for now in 2019, it is questionable. Even in 2020, there are barriers it has to overcome to be looked at seriously as a player in the industry.
Also how many casuals think "I dont want to spend money on a console but am perfectly happy spending £50 on a new game coming out because i can play it on my TV"
I seriously think the market for these people is much smaller then they realise.
The only people I have ever met that have the desire to play games but dont are the ones that cant afford a console or more importantly cant even spend £50 on a single game.
This idea that there are millions of people willing to spend that much upfront on a big game but not willing to buy a console seems really silly.
Maybe im wrong and Stradia will be a massive success, but at the moment im having a hard time believing that.
The Outlet would pretty much lose all credibility if this is true. As would Google.
Also it's a bit unfair to compare to Netflix as Netflix did not premiere original content until six years after it started streaming with House of Cards in 2013.
So saying you don't have to buy new movies or shows on Netflix...well they didn't have new movies or shows for a long time.
So saying you don't have to buy new movies or shows on Netflix...well they didn't have new movies or shows for a long time.
Netflix has a slew of Netflix Originals or shows/movies that are day one in the service for no extra cost.
People really thought they'd give away brand new games for a low monthly sub? This was always the way it was going to be. No publisher would take that deal.
This forum is not the target demographic at all, and it shows. Low barriers to entry plus an affordable, easy-to-ignore monthly sub like Netflix are huge selling points. That said, I think requiring dedicated hardware with a Chromecast at launch is a dumb idea because ease of access without any boxes was supposed to be one of Stadia's main appeals.
if Google can back this up with some genuinely great exclusives (maybe bundle those in with a monthly sub and eat the costs), this could take off.
This forum is not the target demographic at all, and it shows. Low barriers to entry plus an affordable, easy-to-ignore monthly sub like Netflix are huge selling points. That said, I think requiring dedicated hardware with a Chromecast at launch is a dumb idea because ease of access without any boxes was supposed to be one of Stadia's main appeals.
if Google can back this up with some genuinely great exclusives (maybe bundle those in with a monthly sub and eat the costs), this could take off.
I'm happy to pay a sub for anywhere access to games via cloud hardware, but if I'm also paying for the games themselves, and I need extra hardware, I at least want the option to play on local hardware.
So I'm out
So I'm out
It's the eventual end game for gaming. Companies would love nothing more than to eliminate physical "ownership"
Microsoft exclusives are on Game Pass day 1 and lets not gloss over the fact that some third party games launch on Game Pass day 1 as well. Netflix exclusives (Netflix originals) are there on day 1. Will Google exclusives be on their service day 1?
I think the big challenge for me will be if I buy a game on Xcloud then presumably I will be able to use that same game on an Xbox console if I choose to later, on stadia my only option is stream