I'm a die hard Miyazaki fan. I respect his vision for Sekiro, but... yeah, very strange design decisions on that one.
A sequel could shape up better, but yeah, it's a goner.
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I'm a die hard Miyazaki fan. I respect his vision for Sekiro, but... yeah, very strange design decisions on that one.
A sequel could shape up better, but yeah, it's a goner.
Some people are never going to get good at rolling or I-frames.
Different games for different needs.
Me, I'm terrible at both.
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Mistake? Good lord, how dare you make something different and not doing another game with the same mechanics for a decade.
Critically and commercially acclaimed, best launch for a fromsoft game ever, their 1st IP they own themselves in along time and it is a goner? Makes sense I guess
Sekiro is pretty unique, and you really have to enjoy that type of combat. I didn't, like many others obviously (reading this thread). And that has nothing to do with the fact that it's not another souls game and different, but that it's not fun to me to L1-deflect my way through the game.
They could've added some OTHER mechanics for people whose reflexes aren't perfect. That's the problem: a good half of the encounters in the game are "parry or die".
The game didn't need to be identical to Souls, but what made Souls fun was the variety of options. Sekiro lacks any options or diversity in play-style in favor of railroading you down a very specific track.
The parry window is extremely lenient and easily mashable. I've got dumb hands and arthritis but I still found the game manageable. Plus a good number of bosses can be cheesed completely trivializing any perceived difficulty.
I was excited for this, but... no Miyazaki + preset characters again + Sekiro being pretty disappointing for me personally.
I love From, and I can understand them trying to change-up the Souls formula, but the elements they're going about reinventing are the ones they'd already perfected.
Bloodborne preserved what was great about Souls while still feeling very different at it's core. From has yet to replicate that success in my eyes.
I love From, and I can understand them trying to change-up the Souls formula, but the elements they're going about reinventing are the ones they'd already perfected.
Bloodborne preserved what was great about Souls while still feeling very different at it's core. From has yet to replicate that success in my eyes.
What about those who enjoys deflecting? Isn't this game for them?
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Why they should have to add other mechanics? Is there a written rule that you should add new mechanics?
You have several tools to deal with the enemies, it's not always "parry or die".
We are going OT, stick to the thread now.
Try beating the final boss without good parry skills. Yes. Some god-level action gamers can do it, but not all of us are that good or want to spend that much of our lives practicing that.
God of War's impact!
I'm very interested to see how the Souls formula works in an open world setting. Sounds like torture.
I'm very interested to see how the Souls formula works in an open world setting. Sounds like torture.
i am so glad I didn't read this thread enough to see people saying GRRM is a bad writer. it'd just drive up my blood pressure and i can't be bothered trying to win more Internet wars. probably the best fantasy writer of his generation, IMO, and an absolutely, almost impossibly, subtle weaver of worlds and intrigue. a game with his name on it is basically a guarantee I'll invest in a system if I need to. Goddamnit From.
I beat the final boss and I can assure you I'm no god.
Like all From bosses you just need familiarity and patience.
People acting like Sekiro was ''bad'' is just a ERA bubble thing, just like many other stupid statments.
I doubt it's going to be console exclusive. It will also come to PC.
Fair enough. I still maintain I'm not happy about this because I don't like vikings or open world games, though.
yeah Sekiro being "bad" is the same as Red Dead 2 being "bad"
People acting like Sekiro was ''bad'' is just a ERA bubble thing, just like many other stupid things.
you would get the perception those games are bad only just looking at this forum
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Lol Im going to assume PlanetSmasher is crying about the mechanics again
Ignore feature is weird with quotes
Ignore feature is weird with quotes
Pretty sure this is a Miyazaki game (IIRC Omni said as much?). Since Bloodborne (included) all these games have been Miyazaki+another co-director.
Are Skyrim and The Witcher based on Norse Mythology? I always just considered them high fantasy, which takes some elements from all walks of mythology, including Celtic, Norse, Roman etc...
So I can actually only think of 1 AAA game purely based on Norse Mythology, which is God of War
So I can actually only think of 1 AAA game purely based on Norse Mythology, which is God of War
ah, good news. i am thinking about building a new PC later this year, so hopefully I'll have the power I need to run it by the time this game comes out.
still, if I didn't have the opportunity to build a new PC, this could get me to buy a console.
Why would they have to add anything other than parry/deflect to a game about parry/deflect. That's the game's main mechanic along with posture, and arguably you can defeat anyone just using normal block, evasion and attack.
Furthermore, evasion based games can have pretty hard evasion timings too, so it's the same in the end. In Sekiro you're timing one button press in response to enemies attacks, the only difference is your own animation and the fact that you can also evade in addition to block/deflect. So there are options. Plus: you can run like mad, while locked on, which would make any other souls game easy as fuck. Also, there are at least two prosthetic tools aimed at people who can't time the parries and/or evades properly. Of course they cost emblems because why the hell are you playing a rhythm have if you can't rhythm.
And what the hell does that have to do with this rumor.
Furthermore, evasion based games can have pretty hard evasion timings too, so it's the same in the end. In Sekiro you're timing one button press in response to enemies attacks, the only difference is your own animation and the fact that you can also evade in addition to block/deflect. So there are options. Plus: you can run like mad, while locked on, which would make any other souls game easy as fuck. Also, there are at least two prosthetic tools aimed at people who can't time the parries and/or evades properly. Of course they cost emblems because why the hell are you playing a rhythm have if you can't rhythm.
And what the hell does that have to do with this rumor.
Criticism about Sekiro's mechanics is fine, but doesn't really relate much to a project we know this little about.
What's more related, in my opinion, is the setting and their execution. Which is obviously subjective, but as someone who wasn't sold into Sengoku Japan before playing, I think they did a wonderful job.
I would have liked more creepy stuff, but what's in there is pretty damn great.
What's more related, in my opinion, is the setting and their execution. Which is obviously subjective, but as someone who wasn't sold into Sengoku Japan before playing, I think they did a wonderful job.
I would have liked more creepy stuff, but what's in there is pretty damn great.
This is really uncalled for man
On topic, I'm hoping we see the new Armored Core game too at some point in the near future. Wonder if they're saving it for TGS.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills listening to these takes and others. This stuff sounds more salty than discussion about the design positives and negatives.
...Just as in the Sekiro thread, some people saying being able to rely on a few core mechanics to get you through the game as a design flaw....crazy pills
Someone saying the story in Sekiro is terrible compared to Dark Souls III...crazy pills
and people acting like lore experts and denouncing Sekiro's lore as shallow when they barely scratched the surface of what lore exists in Sekiro...crazy pills
I'm gonna bow out of this cause it's not worth it. Just like trying to talk about certain games here where you have to deal with a barrage of hot takes before you can even discuss it in any decent manner.
I know, right? But in this poster's mind, because they didn't like it, it's a goner to the world.
...That being said, it's hard to say if the game would ever actually get a sequel, considering how they want to focus on new games. The most we can expect now is DLC, which is something all of their games have received.
Norse Mythology does not necessarily mean vikings, there were about zero vikings in the new GoW. Unless of course you're just being obtuse and describing all Scandinavians as vikings.
Like I said around this time last E3 before Sekiro, keep an open mind. Many were apprehensive about Sekiro, and had many doubts. I think Fromsoftware has more than earned it's fans the benefit of the doubt.
From what I've seen of this title, I couldn't be more excited.
From what I've seen of this title, I couldn't be more excited.
It's not an exclusive.
Microsoft isn't ponying up like that for 3rd party exclusives anymore this gen. Maybe if it's a next gen game, which I doubt cause then we would be seeing it an E3 2020
People were just being salty it wasn't Bloodborne 2 even though the teaser looked nothing like Bloodborne. From has earned the benefit of the doubt here, I'm actually very excited after becoming a new fan with Sekiro
Microsoft isn't ponying up like that for 3rd party exclusives anymore this gen. Maybe if it's a next gen game, which I doubt cause then we would be seeing it an E3 2020
People were just being salty it wasn't Bloodborne 2 even though the teaser looked nothing like Bloodborne. From has earned the benefit of the doubt here, I'm actually very excited after becoming a new fan with Sekiro
Not liking a game and finding its primary game mechanic a chore is not a hot take. People are allowed to dislike Sekiro, just like people are allowed to dislike Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3.
People want different things out of games, and different things bring different people joy.
Pretty sure I've heard you complain because there are a lack of open world RPGs.
Not gonna lie, I did the same on my first playthrough. But the more I dig into it, the more I enjoy it. I love Sekiro's world and lore now. Even warmed up to a lot of side characters that I disliked at first.
So much hate going on. I'd argue that Dark Souls qualifies as an "open world" game. Can't wait for whatever From brings.
Well, I was agreeing with Gbraga about the likeness of a Sekiro sequel. Much so considering Miyazaki's policy about sequels.
From moves on, people. Also, you guys don't need to take offense.
I enjoyed the combat and setting very much, just did not liked to fight the same mini bosses/bosses several times.
From moves on, people. Also, you guys don't need to take offense.
I enjoyed the combat and setting very much, just did not liked to fight the same mini bosses/bosses several times.
RDR2 being disappointing is a very popular opinion, on Era and beyond
I dont see much critisism at all for Sekiro anywhere though apart from a few isolated comments here and there
I've complained about a lack of RPGs in general. I don't really like modern open world games outside of a few standout examples, though.
I'm so burned out on spending half my playtime on a horse riding in a random direction so I actually get to do a thing.