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You keep suggesting they are efficient yet only released one GT game this generation. A generation that started in 2013. I would love to be proven wrong, that they can get the new one out and another within 3 years.
They technically released 2 games since 2013. GT6 was released on the PS3 in December of 2013 and GT Sport October 2017. Seems like 3-4 years to deliver a game is routine for them.
I do think they started early with GT7 because they mentioned how they scanned the cars I think in 8K while working on GT Sport. They did show gameplay so it appears to be coming along nicely, but this idea they are efficient is laughable.
They released GT6 in late 2013, then GT Sport in 2017, which they have continued to support with content through to this year. GT6 being a PS3 game doesn't change how time works lol
Again, you can keep getting hung up on the fact that GT5, a game from a decade ago when we first moved to HD gaming on consoles, took longer than the usual dev time for PD, but since then they've been consistent with their usual 3-4 year time scale. That also doesn't take into account the fact that they were releasing other games in the time between GT4 and 5, which a lot of you seem to conveniently ignore.
Edit: So you're saying that PD aren't efficient because they're not pumping out GT games every two years? I don't get your logic here.
We don't know that, and we shouldn't assume that, especially not with COVID-19 continuing to slow & alter normal timelines.
On what planet is 3-4 years for a new racing game with an existing franchise "efficient"? I don't know why you are being so defensive.
Project Cars for example released its first in 2015, Project Cars 2 in 2017, and now Project Cars 3 will be out next month. That to me is pretty normal, 2-3 years for a racing game.
I mean going back with seemingly how difficult it has been for PD to upgrade to HD and slow to adjust plus longer and more resource hungry the development of games takes, it's almost a pipe dream. However, they learned a lot from Sport, it's been 3 years since it's release (despite constant updates) and shown actually gameplay of the game running on PS5 (as opposed to "in-engine" footage) I wouldn't be blown away (but pleasantly surprised) if it was December. However, I'd say take their time and get it out when it's really ready.
We do. SONY themselves doesn't want to show games too soon anymore like they did before. Nintendo chose this policy too.
You are just setting yourself up for disappointment if you think all those games will be out by the end of next year.
Well, so did Microsoft and we know how that turned out. I'm not singling out Microsoft on this but I am saying that Sony and Nintendo might say or hint at not doing it but in the end they will announce games that are 2 or more years out.
That's not what I said.
Since Nintendo shifted (after Metroid 4 fiasco), I think the only exception is BoTW 2 teaser.
What are you refeering too ? Because the last event shows 2022 games.
Imo, a few cars or tracks more doesn't matter and can be added at a later date as DLC. If the game is feature complete, release it. How many cars did Gran Turismo 3 have? 180? And it's still my favorite game in the series. The career mode was so good. I'm really looking forward to GT7.
Lol, no. My guess is Ratchet and GT7 will both be February - June and Horizon will be September - November 2021 timeframe.
Is this a joke? They showed not only gameplay but the hud/menu system?
That means its much farther along than 3 years from now. It's a late 2020, early 2021 game at best.
If couldn't find the original article that the site referred to but here what an executive said on announcing games to early.
Announcing Crackdown 3 too early was a mistake, Xbox exec says
Sony has been showing off games that are years away for decades. Even this generation:
From first showing to release -
Last of us 2: 3.5 years
Ghost of Tsushima: Almost 3 years
Spider-Man: 2+ years
God of War: 2 Years
Maybe temper the expectations a bit given world events right now. We don't know anything, other than that these games exist, and they're being developed. When they release is completely fluid and dependent on the progress the games have made. They could be 10 months away, they could be 20 months away. None of us knows.
Yes. And because they had nothing new to show in 2019, they thought they need to change their policy about that. I think it was Layden who talked about that.
Don't worry about my expectations, I learn to tame it long time ago :)
Me disagreeing with you isn't being defensive. That's how discourse works. More to the point, by efficient I mean that they release games at a steady pace with very little in the way of delays. Their back catalogue speaks for itself and I'm merely challenging the notion that GT games have particularly long dev cycles riddled with delays, when that simply isn't the case.
Am I wrong?
Pretty sure this will expand on content just like Sport did and what's there at launch in terms of cars and tracks will mostly be covered in the latest versions of GT Sport.
Some people think they could only get a Prologue version out at launch, but the Prologue games had everything they need for a full game, but with very little content.
GT Sports content is already high standard enough that they can put all that into GT7. And people will joke about similar things said for past games, but the trailer was enough to show that this is the direction they are taking.
Some people think they could only get a Prologue version out at launch, but the Prologue games had everything they need for a full game, but with very little content.
GT Sports content is already high standard enough that they can put all that into GT7. And people will joke about similar things said for past games, but the trailer was enough to show that this is the direction they are taking.
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I mean... yeah? There's a reason that Polyphony have a reputation for delays! GT6 is the only game that I can't find 'GT delayed... again' articles for. They've always been serial delayers. That's just the way it is.
Gran Turismo 2 Delayed - IGN
Internal Sony sources have indicated to IGNPSX that Polyphony's massive…
Gran Turismo 3 Delayed Again
One month before its release, Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec faces another delay in Japan.
www.gamespot.com
Gran Turismo 4 delayed until autumn
Plus! Online communities and PS2 hard drive support confirmed
www.gamesradar.com
Gran Turismo 5 Is Delayed Again
Sony announced that the latest version of the popular racing simulator would be pushed from its Nov. 2 release date to “this holiday season.”
wheels.blogs.nytimes.com
Sony Executive Jim Ryan Confident in GT Sport Release Date
Sony Europe President and CEO Jim Ryan is confident Gran Turismo Sport will meet its 2016 release window.
www.gtplanet.net
Gran Turismo Sport Delayed to 2017
Gran Turismo series creator Kazunori Yamauchi reveals that Gran Turismo Sport has been delayed until 2017, with the developer citing more time needed to perfect the game.
gamerant.com
I mean... yeah? There's a reason that Polyphony have a reputation for delays! GT6 is the only game that I can't find 'GT delayed... again' articles for. They've always been serial delayers. That's just the way it is.
Gran Turismo 2 Delayed - IGN
Internal Sony sources have indicated to IGNPSX that Polyphony's massive…www.ign.com
Gran Turismo 3 Delayed Again
One month before its release, Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec faces another delay in Japan.
Gran Turismo 4 delayed until autumn
Plus! Online communities and PS2 hard drive support confirmed
Gran Turismo 5 Is Delayed Again
Sony announced that the latest version of the popular racing simulator would be pushed from its Nov. 2 release date to “this holiday season.”wheels.blogs.nytimes.com
Sony Executive Jim Ryan Confident in GT Sport Release Date
Sony Europe President and CEO Jim Ryan is confident Gran Turismo Sport will meet its 2016 release window.
Gran Turismo Sport Delayed to 2017
Gran Turismo series creator Kazunori Yamauchi reveals that Gran Turismo Sport has been delayed until 2017, with the developer citing more time needed to perfect the game.
I'll take the L on that one as I wasn't aware. Still, it's not that hard to believe that they can deliver a new GT game in 3-4 years. That's all my argument really boils down to.
Even when anyone points out continued delays you keep brushing it aside. That's not discourse, that's denial. I'm hoping they can get back into the swing of things and release 2 full GT games on the PS5. Not a Prologue, but full games.
20$ demo in December, final game November 2021 is what I can see happening
I can see it. I think I'd probably be more inclined fo agree if 2017's GT Sport had been a 'one and done' release and knowing that they'd basically been working on GT7 since then. But I don't think that's true based on the amount of work they continued to put into Sport basically up until present day.
I could see 4 years? 2021. Build upon what's there from Sport and release it by third quarter.
Honestly, I'd rather they didn't rush it.
im playing the massive reductive card
- the time spent updating sport added cars and tracks - which would have been needed for GT7 anyway, so they were developing in the right direction during that time which would help GT7
campaign/Home Screen looks pretty similar to GT6 and shouldn't be too much effort for 2-4 years work.
biggest question is the graphics and how much is a complete rewrite vs some nips and tucks and some shiny RT effects
I thought I saw someone mention that GTS support wasn't done by their main team?
I think it would be weird for Sony to announce Gran Turismo 7, and then to turn around a month later and go "oh also there's a Gran Turismo 7 Prologue and THAT'S what's coming out in the launch window." Not to mention that people would have even more reason to ask whether this is just GT Sport ported to PS5, since past Prologue games dropped the comprehensive campaign from the mainline series, which basically gives you Sport.
I'm not saying it's impossible, of course; I'm not even sure it's wildly implausible. I can imagine a reality where Sony makes this kind of announcement, sure. But I don't think that's what's coming here.
I'm not saying it's impossible, of course; I'm not even sure it's wildly implausible. I can imagine a reality where Sony makes this kind of announcement, sure. But I don't think that's what's coming here.
The only GT7 demo I want is one that comes out a month before the full game does. I'd hate to see another Prologue situation.
PlayStation Studios is the king of the highly polished vertical slice. I wouldn't read too much in to that. But for sure it would be awesome if that happens. Lost interest in GT over the years but the focus on the story mode has me excited again.
To be fair, didn't Sport release in a pretty lackluster state with little content? If that's the case it still being delayed on top of that with a lot of resources going into Sport's post launch development makes me a little wary that 7 is already done, or at least "done" enough to be in a great state.
I definitely think it will be 2020 or early 2021.
It looked like it was using the GT Sport engine, just updated with RT, so they have probably been building it along side GT Sport and porting a lot of the content over to GT7.
It looked like it was using the GT Sport engine, just updated with RT, so they have probably been building it along side GT Sport and porting a lot of the content over to GT7.
Assuming PS5 is coming out in November, they are not gonna release a high profile title a month after the console. It's either gonna be ready for launch, or for Q1 2021 (if we really think it's coming out soon).
Personally I think March-June 2021 makes the most sense, especially after what Phil Spencer (not PlayStation, I know, but the principle still applies) said about games planned for next year potentially getting delayed for the current Covid situation and inability to do mocap sessions. Racing games barely require any (group) mocap work, it could plug the hole nicely.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a launch title either, it looked like an upgraded GT Sport and it's always nice to have a racing title at release.
Personally I think March-June 2021 makes the most sense, especially after what Phil Spencer (not PlayStation, I know, but the principle still applies) said about games planned for next year potentially getting delayed for the current Covid situation and inability to do mocap sessions. Racing games barely require any (group) mocap work, it could plug the hole nicely.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a launch title either, it looked like an upgraded GT Sport and it's always nice to have a racing title at release.
I haven't played one of these sim racers since...let me check my notes...Sega GT 2002. If it's a launch title, why the fuck not? Heck, if it's out inside of the first year, I'll probably buy it.
They showed a single track.
Look at this GT5 trailer, look how much shit it shows. You'd think it was coming soon after.
It came out 18 months later.
Just noticed that Base.com (large UK retailer) has GT7 pre-orders with a release date of 31st December 2020 (obviously a placeholder) and also Hitman 3 with the same date (despite us knowing that Hitman isn't coming till January 2021).
I'd take these kind of retailer dates with a huge grain of salt.
I'd take these kind of retailer dates with a huge grain of salt.
yes, the constant cutting made it look rough. what is there looked good visually but the fact that they kept cutting it after 10-20 seconds implied to me that it wasn't in a state to be shown longform.
No need to rush it, none of these had dates for a reason...
It'll be a nice return to form, I expect it mid 2021
It'll be a nice return to form, I expect it mid 2021
No the same thing they showed, at the end of the trailer they literally showed raw captured gameplay, and then showed the HUD for menu.
Here's the menu, track selection, and customization menu's:
Here's raw game footage:
Not the same as what you just showed me. Poly from now is not the same from last gen. They are more streamlined.