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Nearing the end of Shadowbringers myself, yes the expansions are the meat of the game, but that doesn't stop ARR from being a horrifically awful barrier dozens of hours long. I'm still unsure if I'd ever recommend this to anyone new given how bad it is.
literally started it on my iMac TODAY. Little overwhelmed, my only MMO experience was a few hours of XI many years ago on PS2. What I've played so far is fun, very polished and nicely written. I really need a controller though, I'm so not used to playing with a keyboard and mouse.
Hey, patience is a virtue
That sounds cool and there's potential in that. People want their stylized and cool looking characters in FFXVI though lol
Nice, enjoy! I strongly recommend a controller, yessss. (Though I am admittedly biased, as I play on PS4, lol.)
Actually I lied
I'm more than okay with high fantasy
If it's something like the Suikoden games and Fire Emblem Three Houses
Where there's still a heavy focus on character drama despite the political plot
And the characters don't speak in purple prose
Which tbh is what I'm frightened of for a high fantasy FF
I'm more than okay with high fantasy
If it's something like the Suikoden games and Fire Emblem Three Houses
Where there's still a heavy focus on character drama despite the political plot
And the characters don't speak in purple prose
Which tbh is what I'm frightened of for a high fantasy FF
ARR is at worst one of those generic MMO made after WoW gained popularity years ago. Unless it's someone who really hate MMO, I wouldn't mind recommending it.
The expansions are structured much the same as ARR with some tweaks and quality of life changes. The difference is in the writing and scope, and narrative presentation. I think for what it was at the time of its release ARR is good at what it set out to do. The team has also matured in the 7 years since its release and it shows. Yeah ARR will always be necessary to experience for what comes after, but it isn't some nightmare of an unplayable mess that has to be endured for the 'good part' to kick in. The good stuff later on only happens at all because ARR set up for it to.
And I'll be the guy to tell you you're right. ARR has plenty of fantastic story beats in it. Some of it is boring filler shit but it's far from being all or even most of it.
Again, why should I have to pay to get past all the awful content? The game is forcing a sub and a skip on me or a slog is the issue. You also have to pay for the level up item, don't you? Which looks like it's double the price of the story skip.
But it's still a horribly boring fetch quest of a game, at least up until MSQ 35 where I stopped. Skipping cutscenes isn't going to make it a 5 hour game, it's still a boring 30+ hour title. The cutscenes weren't amazing but it's not like the gameplay was hot either. They both suck.
Like what other JRPG requires such a ridiculous time investment to 'get good'? It's a long genre but usually they kick into gear within the first 5 hours. Like fuck P5's pacing but the story and gameplay were both 10x better than ARR.
I gave it 30ish hours
I hate it and I got to level 80 in Shadowbringers thanks to quarantine and having a friend that's a healer that could get me through queues faster than 20 minutes. I doubt I would have made it through otherwise. Shadowbringers and Heavensward are good, but I'm not going to dismiss how awful ARR was to get through to get there in the first place.
If I had more time I would be playing AAR, but WoW still is the MMO that has my attention. Which is unfortunate because Legion pretty much was the last expansion I cared for.
I can't wait to see FFXVI
A new FF, this will finally get me excited for next generation.
I can't wait to see FFXVI
A new FF, this will finally get me excited for next generation.
I'd rather they put their full resources getting FF7R part two out. But this is not coming out for years anyway.
I'd want underwater exploration to be a part of the game. I hate limited experiences. I miss world exploration, and I DEFINITELY miss multi-world exploration (underwater, underworld, moon, anotehr planet) in the FF series.
That's not really fair lol. I'm just starting to enjoy Ff14, and I'm at like 60 hours lol.
It does get better, but like, it's not a quick process.
lol imagine feeling forced to buy a level-up skip.
Leveling is never an issue in FFXIV. Its so easy to level in this game. ARR sucks compared to the expansions but its not that terrible. It sets up so much stuff that makes the expac way better. Without ARR, SHB would not be as good as it is. And once again ARR was inherited from the shitstain that 1.0 was
Leveling is never an issue in FFXIV. Its so easy to level in this game. ARR sucks compared to the expansions but its not that terrible. It sets up so much stuff that makes the expac way better. Without ARR, SHB would not be as good as it is. And once again ARR was inherited from the shitstain that 1.0 was
Square Enix has more than one team. They came work on more than one game at a time.
By the XIV team? Wouldn't they be working on another expansion?
disparate and I have been playing XIV with friends since quarantine started like he mentioned and yeah...ARR was definitely a slog. Having played through all of the content now I can obviously say that overall the game is great and has totally given me hours upon hours of enjoyable story and dungeon/raid experiences with friends, but I can't sugarcoat the fact that I do have memories of me muttering my displeasure at ARR pacing. Still I'm excited to see what the FFXIV team can do because their recent output has been really enjoyable.
I would absolutely love an SP FF done the by the XIV team!
Heavensward is godly but it's largely because of the buildup that ARR provides
Because there's also a skip cutscene feature that is free and you still blame the game just for its existence. Also...if you have HW expansion, there are new jobs that starts at 30. And SB's jobs starts at 50 while Shb job starts at 60.
And this crusade of yours to scare off people from playing this game is grating.
Then that is a you problem. You obviously just don't like the MMO structure and that is fine but that doesn't mean the game is bad.
Fetch quests, grinding and boring repetitive quests happen in MMOs. WoW has the same content because these games are meant to follow a progression path for levelling and reaching the end.
None of this has any bearing on the writing, music and battle system.
Comparing this to a standard JRPG makes no sense because again this is an MMO. It's common sense that things will work differently from a solo RPG. The content will always be longer and the experience won't be for everyone.
No one is forcing you or anyone to play an MMO. If you dislike how they work then it's not for you. This doesn't mean you get to dismiss an entire MMOs praise and positive reception.
Retail or classic?
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Technically true, but those worlds are pretty small (basically the size of towns and dungeons), and I don't care for the KH series.
I haven't played the expansions yet (in 2.4 now), but ARR was a fucking slog imo. Good moments separated by loads of stuff that felt meaningless with constant backtrack, and Gameplay that isn't remotely interesting until like the 40s.
Luckily it gets pretty immediately better in the subsequent patches and I'm hyped for the expansion.
Ivalice, God damn you !!!
I would love it so much if this were the case. FF12 is amazing.
I won't defend that part of it yeah. The pacing is lax until you reach Coerthas and the main meat of the plot kicks in around level 37ish, and in the patch content between you'll feel sluggish if you aren't vested in what's going on around Eorzea. I guess it's where the MMO vs standard RPG break becomes apparent. I think I'll give ARR a replay sometime to see how my memories hold up.
I would've gone further but playing with randoms in the dungeons stressed me out. I tried to be a healer for a bit and it didn't end well lol. Did they ever make it all solo-able or is it just the newer stuff?
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Developed by the FFXIV team [...].
Final Fantasy XVI Announcement Reportedly Planned For PS5 Showcase
Square Enix is planning to announce Final Fantasy XVI during the upcoming PS5 showcase according to some reports. The event is set for this Wednesday.twistedvoxel.com
Well, that would certainly explain their drop in quantity and quality content for the MMO since post-Shadowbringers (at least imo).
FFXVI for PS5 only (or time-exclusive) would be a killer for sure. But I doubt it would be due before late 2021 or later, so it's whatever anyway
Only Shadowbringers on is solo able for dungeons. Trials always require multiplayer. Also I don't heal either cause that's a stressful job lol.
It's just Shadowbringers where you can solo a dungeon with NPCs. Healing can be stressful yeah. Go with a DPS job and you'll have an easier time (albeit longer queue times).
This turned into a another thread about arguing if ARR is good or not. Maybe it's cause I started the game in the launch window of ARR(on ps3 at that) I never found my time playing through to be a slog and the story was enjoyable. They only problem I can can see going back to do those parts of the game is the sever lack of skills since so many of the abilities back then have been removed which made later levels better.
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