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[Rumor] Ezra Miller Reportedly Done With The Flash; WB Will Recast The Role.
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Potentially a spoiler for an unreleased movie so:
Joker appears in Birds of Prey, and is not played by Leto.
Not to mention joaquin phoenix's movie
Not to mention joaquin phoenix's movie
Guess he's not burning too many bridges at WB since he still has a major role in Fantastic Beasts.
I get the impression that he's not agreeing to do anything other than a Superman Movie (likely one he has more creative input on, maybe as a producer or by deciding on writers/directors). No cameos, crossovers etc, and WB don't want to do another Superman movie, so they are at an impasse.
I've got this covered: No.
Unless it's from Variety, Deadline, or THR I wouldn't trust it.
That was Snyder's direction. He wanted flash to run like he was skiing or something.
I hope this is true. I feel like they are on the verge of figuring this comic book movie thing out
Seriously. If that is true. I'm fine with them moving on from it. That's not something you do for a Flash movie. Especially the first one.
I get that. But Flashpoint shouldn't be the first Flash movie either.
Yeah he was pretty terrible to watch in JL. Like just super annoying. "LOIS IS THE KEY" headass. Now they can make a lighthearted film.
More than anything I hope DC doesn't see Aquaman + Shazam doing well and just sees "light hearted = people love them now that must be all we zero in on" and go full light hearted, because it isn't going to go well for them either.
The DC universe (like Marvel) is more than capable of being balanced, the only reason people leaped onto the whole dark stuff they were doing is because they chose to open it with Superman. Superman is supposed to be a beacon of light, I get it it was a novice Superman but even a novice Superman has no right playing as dark as they did with it in MoS and then they immediately jump the character into BvS which necessitates an even darker feel just because of Batman.
Superman has dark stories too, but they jumped in on something like that and completely ignored the heart of the character. Superman done well should be the heart of the Justice League, and the DC movies Superman isn't that guy.
Barry Allen is very much a character you can go dark on to begin with and then lead him into the light, by going hard on the Reverse Flash arc for him. Barry's troubles with his parents and how the Reverse Flash works into that is very gripping and dark. The 1st season of the CW TV show struck a solid balance of fun and humor while having those dark, sad moments. The scene where Barry went back and saw his mom and had to let her die in that show was heartbreaking.
The problem has never just been "our movies are too dark so people hate them". DC seems to think their characters aren't good enough to take it slow and build up, or that people won't respect their characters without severe changes that hurt the characters like Batman killing a bunch of people and Superman not really being a proper good Superman, and it's led them down this path of rushing into all their major stories and cramming films with multiple of them and trying to make the characters something they're not and it shows. The audience can feel and notice that. The reason Aquaman and Shazam work isn't because they're light hearted or less dark, but because they made the decision to do that with characters that it actually fits to do that on and they are very well done and you can tell they actually respected the characters. The audience responds to that, too. The worst part is this is only really true for the cinematic DC films, their animated films/Young Justice/Doom Patrol are all slaying it and "get it"
Marvel takes their time and just does Guardians of the Galaxy - something almost no one in the general public knew much about - and they just kill it. They had Thanos do the snap. They're going to jump into Eternals. They've slowly built their storylines and characters up over 10 years, and even launched the MCU off the back of characters that really weren't popular in the public conscience and sold them to the public anyways, and that's because Marvel goes all in on their characters and has faith in their comic work to be strong enough to play great with audiences.
It pains me a bit because I love Marvel & DC both a lot, but DC's film division just seems afraid of their own characters to perform well on their own. I don't know why.
The DC universe (like Marvel) is more than capable of being balanced, the only reason people leaped onto the whole dark stuff they were doing is because they chose to open it with Superman. Superman is supposed to be a beacon of light, I get it it was a novice Superman but even a novice Superman has no right playing as dark as they did with it in MoS and then they immediately jump the character into BvS which necessitates an even darker feel just because of Batman.
Superman has dark stories too, but they jumped in on something like that and completely ignored the heart of the character. Superman done well should be the heart of the Justice League, and the DC movies Superman isn't that guy.
Barry Allen is very much a character you can go dark on to begin with and then lead him into the light, by going hard on the Reverse Flash arc for him. Barry's troubles with his parents and how the Reverse Flash works into that is very gripping and dark. The 1st season of the CW TV show struck a solid balance of fun and humor while having those dark, sad moments. The scene where Barry went back and saw his mom and had to let her die in that show was heartbreaking.
The problem has never just been "our movies are too dark so people hate them". DC seems to think their characters aren't good enough to take it slow and build up, or that people won't respect their characters without severe changes that hurt the characters like Batman killing a bunch of people and Superman not really being a proper good Superman, and it's led them down this path of rushing into all their major stories and cramming films with multiple of them and trying to make the characters something they're not and it shows. The audience can feel and notice that. The reason Aquaman and Shazam work isn't because they're light hearted or less dark, but because they made the decision to do that with characters that it actually fits to do that on and they are very well done and you can tell they actually respected the characters. The audience responds to that, too. The worst part is this is only really true for the cinematic DC films, their animated films/Young Justice/Doom Patrol are all slaying it and "get it"
Marvel takes their time and just does Guardians of the Galaxy - something almost no one in the general public knew much about - and they just kill it. They had Thanos do the snap. They're going to jump into Eternals. They've slowly built their storylines and characters up over 10 years, and even launched the MCU off the back of characters that really weren't popular in the public conscience and sold them to the public anyways, and that's because Marvel goes all in on their characters and has faith in their comic work to be strong enough to play great with audiences.
It pains me a bit because I love Marvel & DC both a lot, but DC's film division just seems afraid of their own characters to perform well on their own. I don't know why.
It's been years since I read Flash comics, but I don't remember Barry being such a goofball and there for comedy relief. Hated the direction they went with his character and couldn't stand the power rangers like suit. Start over.
Damn shame. Miller is such a good actor and he was one of the few bright spots in JL.
But I dunno why they ever agreed to let him write the script lmao.
But I dunno why they ever agreed to let him write the script lmao.
Cavill's fine, it was how Supes was written that hurt his performance.
The only thing DC have been consistent with is overcorrecting, and learning the wrong lessons from their failings and the competitor's successes.
Tsujihara's gone. Maybe whoever's now in charge won't be a complete imbecile...
