Nah. First parties absolutely cancel games all the time. They probably cancel them more often than third parties do, honestly.
The difference is that first parties can get away with waiting way longer to reveal their games than third parties can.
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[Rumor] Brian Crecente heard that Sony cancelled quite a few games a while back. (lacks enough insight/big picture to know if true or not)
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Nah. First parties absolutely cancel games all the time. They probably cancel them more often than third parties do, honestly.
The difference is that first parties can get away with waiting way longer to reveal their games than third parties can.
Unannounced projects that barely made it out of the concept/prototype stage shouldn't warrant being described as "cancelled".
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I think an example game is needed here. I agree with SFLUFAN's definition.
The Sony Santa Monica sci-fi project is probably the biggest example.
Close? I haven't had this much fun reading a thread since the "Trophies are required by law" classic!
Thank me later.
Square Enix need to be called out for NOT adding trophies to any of the expansions to FFXIV. Thought they had to add them by law if its paid content?
The PS4 version has the bare minimum trophies for an MMORPG. You only get trophies for the vanilla main scenario quest A Realm Reborn, arguably the weakest part of the game too. You don't get any added trophies for buying any of the three expansions. I thought this wasn't allowed? How come...
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All game companies do this.
Sony is just the best at controlling the narrative, so we don't hear much about their fuckery.
Sony is just the best at controlling the narrative, so we don't hear much about their fuckery.
I still wonder what some of the titles that got cancelled when Allan Becker took over Japan Studio were (and if an Ape Escape game was one of them)-
kotaku.com
"Becker described the sheer love and passion the studio's developers had for the titles—all 40-odd of them—they were creating. Creativity was never the problem at the Japan Studio. Neither was the passion to make games. "And so," he said, "I was really troubled when I had to really start to focus and cut titles."
How Sony's Hometown Studio Rose From the Ashes In Time for the PS4
The Tokyo-based Japan Studio, responsible for PlayStation 2 classics such as Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, and the Ape Escape franchise, seemed A.W.O.L. for much of the PS3 generation. Now, on the eve of the PlayStation 4's release, Japan Studio is trying to make a major comeback. I went to Tokyo...
kotaku.com
"Becker described the sheer love and passion the studio's developers had for the titles—all 40-odd of them—they were creating. Creativity was never the problem at the Japan Studio. Neither was the passion to make games. "And so," he said, "I was really troubled when I had to really start to focus and cut titles."
Agreed. What are we even discussing here?
There is nothing of any real worth being reported in the OP.
No source, just my speculation. I think it lines with Sony and QD stopping their relationship.
"People will still give us money" - Sony
Their arrogance is getting out of control.
From the Shu Yoshida/Ted Price podcast interview linked earlier - prototyping on concepts can go on for months. And prototyping time, and the size of prototyping teams, has been getting longer and larger. So the risk of that phase has been increasing.
I think it would be easy for someone external to hear things about games - playable games - in production for months by sizeable enough teams being 'cancelled', and to interpret that one way, while internally it was well accepted that this was just part of a prototyping process.
Again, to quote Yoshida from that interview: 'we start more games than we finish'.
You may well be right and I agree about many games getting cancelled/dropped at the concepts/prototypes stage. That is nothing new at all.
Hopefully Brian elaborates on what he heard so we can all better understand.
Gee I guess MS isnt the only one who cancels games. The only difference between MS and sony here is that you HEARD about MS's cancellations....happens to all companies behind the scenes more than people think. It's business.
You'd have to be a massive Sony fanboy to think that, it's well known a huge number of games in production get canned. I guess the difference in Sony's and Microsoft's case is cancelling games pre announcement vs after.
Yeah exactly, MS's only real issue was announcing those games too early.
"Canceled" is Crescente's word choice, and he's using it in contrast to "put on hold." I wouldn't read that much into the specific word.
One of the most pointless and worst thread in a while! A thread based on lack of insight ! Based on nothing! wow interesting ...
I'm really surprised we haven't heard anything about third parties being chafed at Sony just deciding that they don't need to act as a lamp for them this year. I think it's contributing significantly to people downplaying expectations for holiday PS4/XB1 titles.
I don't know about this.
They surely have God of War 2, Spider Man 2, and Horizon 2 in the works.
They surely have studio japan working on sometime.
They surely have a few new IP's.
I feel like folks want 15 brand new AAA IPs to be revealed this month for the PS5 launch window. Relax guys. The PS Meeting will happen. There will be reveals. Square Enix and other devs are making epic AAA experiences for PS5.
We haven't even gotten Death Stranding, Jedi Fallen Order, Shenmue 3, Last of Us 2, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Avengers, and Cyberpunk yet and I feel like folks are worried about games getting cancelled. And all of these are soon pretty much. Ghost of Tsushima will launch in 2020 or 2021 and other titles too!
They surely have God of War 2, Spider Man 2, and Horizon 2 in the works.
They surely have studio japan working on sometime.
They surely have a few new IP's.
I feel like folks want 15 brand new AAA IPs to be revealed this month for the PS5 launch window. Relax guys. The PS Meeting will happen. There will be reveals. Square Enix and other devs are making epic AAA experiences for PS5.
We haven't even gotten Death Stranding, Jedi Fallen Order, Shenmue 3, Last of Us 2, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Avengers, and Cyberpunk yet and I feel like folks are worried about games getting cancelled. And all of these are soon pretty much. Ghost of Tsushima will launch in 2020 or 2021 and other titles too!
I heard they are going to have a great launch lineup, I don't really have the insight behind that. But Socom and other epic games are coming :P
Anyway, without anything more than that tweet it's hard to say to what extent this is / isn't true.
Projects are cancelled all the time in early stages of development. If more news comes to light about cancelled projects please make a new thread.
Projects are cancelled all the time in early stages of development. If more news comes to light about cancelled projects please make a new thread.
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