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Rumor: 'Big' Navi GPU that has just passed certification will power the PlayStation 5 and the Xbox Scarlett
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you should be fine. but remember most next gen aaa games will be 30 fps. you will need a much more powerful cpu and gpu to get those extra 30 fps.
unless of course you are fine with 30 fps games on pc.
it will be very interesting to see how 2080 cards handle early to mid gen games at 60 fps. will we need 16 core 32 thread cpus to hit 60 fps?
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I think we should try to hold off speculating on what retail "big navi" cards are going to look like until we get some more specs. I think the natural thing to ask is whether or not it's going to compete with 2080/super/ti but so far it seems like AMD just isn't targeting the high end for the time being. The 5000 series just seems like they're just setting a baseline on what their new architecture can do, but I just don't really know if a $1000 card to compete with nVidia's is in their strategy.
I'm more excited about nextgen consoles using RDNA2 in general, tbh. At least at the moment. Hopefully more specs and details are on the way about more RDNA2 chips/cards so we can get a better idea of what we're looking at. I'm eager to see what's different between RDNA1 and 2.
I'm more excited about nextgen consoles using RDNA2 in general, tbh. At least at the moment. Hopefully more specs and details are on the way about more RDNA2 chips/cards so we can get a better idea of what we're looking at. I'm eager to see what's different between RDNA1 and 2.
God, I hope not. I just got a i9-9900KF Processor. I want my rig to last until the 10th gen.
A 2080 is going to be absolutely fine, lol.
Don't be.
Love these questions.. I mean your card costs more than the entire consoles will.
that's a good thing. that means that nvidia has to be much more aggressive with price/performance for their next cards and maybe we get another gen like pascal cards. I expect the mid range 3060 series card to perform like a 2080 for a third of the price. I think we will get that otherwise pc gaming will be in a bad place relative to consoles. 2060 performed like a 1080, it's not outlandish, it was just $100 too expensive at $350. Then 3070/3080 need to be like 30/50 percent better than a 2080 with more VRAM as well while costing less.
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You would think they would be. It would be embarrassing otherwise.
... did you... Did you really just bump a old thread to say I told you so?
Biggest problem with 30 FPS on PC is that is seems like devs don't work very hard to mitigate frame time stutter at 30. Almost every game I've tried "locked at 30" still seemingly has frame pacing issues.
I don't think that you will have a problem with that with console settings.
Yeah, just a fucked up thing to say over something so insignificant.
I think that's fairly last minute. Usually console manufacturers have all the specs confirmed at least a year out.
Hoping for Native 1080p with HDR docked, if not Native 2K at the very least.
Regular tv. Separate effects from HDR that doesn't require HDR to function.
Ray tracing has been around for decades. It has nothing to do with your tv
Use rtss or half refresh rate from NV, they are flawless basically these days
I find it amusing all this back and forth about just how powerful these chips might be .
Even at their most basic performance levels, they are way beyond the ancient Jaguar CPUs of the current generation.
Coupled with the much more modern RAM and NVmE storage, these are both going to be markedly and noticeably 'next generation" machines.
Even at their most basic performance levels, they are way beyond the ancient Jaguar CPUs of the current generation.
Coupled with the much more modern RAM and NVmE storage, these are both going to be markedly and noticeably 'next generation" machines.
I don't understand how these consoles can still be sold for around $500 when they apparently have parts in that would cost $500 on their own.
You get a decent discount if you commit to buying ~20m of a part.
Parts that cost $500 in shops do not cost $500 to be made. "Total" is price of all components, "MP" is price in shops:
Console makers are directly purchasing components from manufacturers, and putting all those components into a final product that is sold for a minimal [of any] profit. That way, the console can get ~$150 [Zen2+GPU]APU straight from TSMC that is equivalent of a very powerful PC.
If you are aiming for 4K sure.
But if you are still playing at 1080p and 1440p, the GTX 2080 is more than enough for 60fps.
You do understand that consumer parts' prices could be get risen to an unlimited roof if the manufacturer want it because they aren't meant to be sold for the grand mass and they produce so many different chips each year that can guarantee their gains that way but with console manufacurer, they get instant gain as soon as the deal starts because they start producing those same parts by many millions and they are sure to be sold throughout an entire generation, so they basically sell them with near their manufacturing prices and not the consumer prices.
Do you think that those fancy really cost over 1200 bucks to produce? Obviously not, just like those hardware parts.
If the hardware manufacturers are so sure that users will get their parts by millions like for consoles, they would have sold them with that price.
Parts that cost $500 in shops do not cost $500 to be made. "Total" is price of all components, "MP" is price in shops:
Console makers are directly purchasing components from manufacturers, and putting all those components into a final product that is sold for a minimal [of any] profit. That way, the console can get ~$150 [Zen2+GPU]APU straight from TSMC that is equivalent of a very powerful PC.
Exactly.
yikes
Sell at loss, make it back in services & software
what is this nonsense. An rtx 2080 will run next gen games at 60fps just fine.
You can play any game at 60 fps if you turn down the settings and resolution enough.
But if a game is designed to be 30 fps on a gpu roughly just as powerful, you are going tio need a more powerful gpu to play it on the same settings and res at 60 fps.
You haven't followed the news recently? Scarlett is pretty much confirmed to have a 12 tflops rdna gpu. By Phil himself. Df confirmed it just a couple of days ago after gamespot reported it.
Would this mean by fall 2020 it would be noticeably cheaper? (Using his guess on price).
