The whole point is that it fluctuates. It can be higher, it could be lower, but the changes are so minor it's basically 10tf. It's not gonna drop down to those 9tf numbers.
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Am I crazy or wasn't it Dusk that post a rumor in the Silent Hills thread that was almost immediately debunked and the came back into the thread to say that they intentionally posed false information to vet one of their sources?
I don't think we should expect most games to be 60 fps. Most will continue to be 30 fps, I think.
I've been in and out of that thread, but I don't recall that. I know he has doubled down on the Silent Hill game existing and being developed by Sony. That has yet to come true, but he has been spot on with Resident Evil and Street Fighter stuff.
I think Sony mentioned they have locked performance profiles so the variability is there for devs that decide to use it.
I'll be honest guys, obviously resolutions matter and having a sharp image is great. But as long as the image is at or above 1080p with strong AA implementation, I could care less if it means I get stable frame rates, more density in geometry and even ray tracing.
1080p vs lower resolutions is very noticeable, so no, and reconstruction techniques weren't much of a thing back then, but I'm sure you knew that.
Except he didn't say this at all because he nested everything he said in "hypothetically", as the context of the conversation was what areas Sony could screw up in at launch that would lessen the hurt of what Xbox launching without Halo would be like. This is also why he mentioned a potential $600 price point. That does not mean he thinks either of those things would happen/are happening/are likely, he would have said that if that were the case.
So no, he's not corroborating what Dusk Golem has heard, which makes sense considering Dusk Golem is mostly taking one developer (he's admitted his main source is Resident Evil 8) and extrapolating it out to all developers.
This is how a broken game of telephone happens and we should aim not to do that.
That could be the problem. A dev uses Series X to run the game, runs fine. They use one of the locked profiles on PS5 and it doesn't run well.
Sounds like, to me, PS5 needs to have a little more attention to fully squeeze out all the power you need.
That doesn't surprise me. Native 4K is a terribly taxing target, to the point where even Nvidia recognizes that it's a stupid thing to target. With the advent of DLSS 2.0, I firmly believe that a reconstructed image is the way to go, though I believe that the consoles lack the hardware to drive such a sophisticated solution. In my view, framerate should always be prioritized over native 4K. I fully expect both consoles to mostly have games with checkerboarded/reconstructed resolutions and only a few AAA and lower-spec indie games to consistently hit native 4K. Of course, the Series X will hit that target more consistently, but I expect more graphically intense, heavily ray traced games to fail to hit that target.
From absolutely nowhere.
A while back the narrative suddenly changed with some people that the series x would be cheaper than the PS5.
I do think the series s will be the cheapest option available but the PS5 DE will 100% be the cheapest 'full' next gen console. The only way the standard PS5 is more expensive than the series x is if MS take a huge hit considering the Forbes story had the series x at around $50-70 more expensive BOM than the PS5.
as someone whose played games in both native and reconstructed 4k. I can tell you that I notice the difference. It doesnt mean a gorgeous game like horizon zero dawn is "blurry" or "ugly"(some of the vernacular used to describe the xbox one versions of games from 2013 and 2014) but i can tell you that games like read dead 2 and forza horizon 4 looked cleaner at native 4k. For reference, I have a ps4 pro and a one x, and i play on a 65 inch c8 oled
McCaffrey still probably believes that.
some of the takes here dont sound too different from this tbh.
So much cap about Native 4k lmao sheesh. You guys are acting like its a choice, they would hit Native 4k if they could at the settings they desired over fauxK anyday of the week, if XSX is doing Native, an PS5 is doing Fake 4k, im going XSX every time for multiplats going forward, because believe it or not, its noticeable.
I'm more interested in the pricing thing to be honest, seeming to be more smoke around PS5 being surprisingly expensive these past few days. Starting to think there might be something to this.
Yeah, we got both better graphics and native 1080p on base ps4 for almost the entire gen, and a lot of people were freaking out of the 900p on base xbox one "it's not next gen" some said. If the fake 4K on PS5 isn't an issue, the fake 4K in lockhart shouldn't be too, but i already saw a lot of "concern" about that console......
yep matt said something like that also .
Will just take a little time .
McCaffrey still probably believes that.
Oh man! I remember that video, crazy shit lol.
Yeah, that would be far more disappointing than it not hitting native 4K.
I feel like it appeared the day Halo infinite was delayed.
Looking at BoM estimates and sonys forecasted financials the series X will not be cheaper than the PS5.
The XSX is the stronger system. So it makes sense that a 4K title that taxes the hardware will be a lower resolution on ps5 assuming other settings are the same.
So why does the topic say the PS5 struggles with 4K games in particular?
It's his understanding of it and his presentation of it that are his undoing.
Do we really need "insiders" for obvious stuff like this? Of course it won't be delivering native 4K with ray tracing or even without RT in visually demanding titles, what are people expecting from a 600 dollar box when performance like this can't even be readily achieved on much more expensive PCs/GPUs?
On the chance you are legitimately asking - the 18% gap is literally why "TF don't matter". It's the smallest gap there has ever been between rival consoles - their GPUs are so close in theoretical capability the difference barely matters at all. There is no disconnect to be confused about between "TF don't matter" and "18% difference", they are the same statement. It's the same reason people did not play up the ~8% TF advantage the Xbox One S has over the Xbox One - in fact most would agree it barely made a difference in most games.
Saying this console can do 4k and this console can't is so fucking dumb. It completely depends on the software being pushed. Like an Xbox 360 could run solitaire in 4k.
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It started after the first series x games showcase because games were no longer the lifeline for some posters.
Thanks for this .
Since this how bad info and people saying someone said something spreads.
For such a good dude Mitch Dyer is, what a fucking dumb thing he said here.McCaffrey still probably believes that.
Dusk mentioned hearing it from other (I assume other = not from capcom) devs.
How about we all just ask Grubb what he meant ? Doesnt he post here ? Someone ask on twitter lol
Thats what in his tweets he said and clarified here he has heard this about resident evil 8. So not sure tbh and even then we were not provided any context as to was this just the initial issue with getting engine on ps5 or it still exist etc..
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