As horrible of a value as they were before, somehow they're even worse now. I don't think I could recommend any older card beyond a 1660 super.
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RTX 3060 Ti is launching this Wednesday (2-December-2020) at $399.99
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As horrible of a value as they were before, somehow they're even worse now. I don't think I could recommend any older card beyond a 1660 super.
yep, it's faster than a 2080 ti in blender as well. It's a great card for itx workstations or for those who don't feel like upgrading a psu at the moment.
After reading reviews, it seems like it's the perfect 1080p144hz card too. Looks like a really versatile card.
If I could easily get a 2080 super for around 400, I wouldn't even try to grab a 3060ti tomorrow.
The form factor on third-party dual fan designs is amazing, too. Perfect WFH GPU "unfortunately". Not to mention ITX.
I would and I do have a 1080 TI, but I really, really, really want to play Cyberpunk with RT at 4K (i.e. DLSS).
You would probably not find a 3060ti for around 400 either, but I hope you're one of the lucky ones
Oh i probably wont. If not, i will just use stadia and geforce now until next year. My 960 2gb isnt really doing me any good.
Yikes. I had one and I remember.
I have checked and found some 2080ti for around the same price as the "non-"scalped 3060ti (the reported prices in Europe were all above 500) on a reputable Italian forum. Fucking hate this situation.
Yeah no lol. Looking on Marketplace/Kijiji I see 2080S between 800$ and 900$ CAD.
The 3060ti is made of 3070 chips that didn't bin high enough, so they disabled some cores and are releasing them under a different branding. That's how many cards work. So basically they're just getting more stock out of chips that couldn't be used for 3070s.
sitting on stock doesn't make much sense given they still have to pay for storage. and if they only have enough storage for whatever they planned on making at the time, then they'd be over-capacity quickly
I live in Italy and one month ago I bought a barely used and still in warranty MSI 2080S Gaming X (one of the best non reference models) for 499 euro.
Seeing now the 3060ti in Italy at over 600 euro I think I made the right move lol.
RTX 2000 prices have fallen ultra low in the used market while the 3000 cards are being sold like 200 euro over the MSRP, when available.
RTX 3000 are awesome performance wise, but this is just dumb.
Seeing now the 3060ti in Italy at over 600 euro I think I made the right move lol.
RTX 2000 prices have fallen ultra low in the used market while the 3000 cards are being sold like 200 euro over the MSRP, when available.
RTX 3000 are awesome performance wise, but this is just dumb.
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Yeah, I know how binning works -- I work in the field -- but it's just weird that they're pushing out these chips as a product now instead of focusing on 3070s instead. Like, there's a clear issue with the defined 3070 bin (perhaps binned too high, ie. 3070's specs are too high) if they're able to release a 3060Ti product at this early in the cycle.
lol what a ride, I remember when Nvidia announced 3080 at 699$ and it actually translates to 1000€ price point for AIB cards that are absolutely unavailable anywhere leaving scalpers to further increase those prices... Pretty much skipping this entire series 3000. Hopefully by series 4000 performance with RTX will be better, cards will be readily avaible and we won't be hit by another pandemic.
It's significantly harder to get a 3080 now than it was 3 months ago, and they're out here releasing new cards. I don't get it.
When are they gonna make more 3080s?
When are they gonna make more 3080s?
Bricks & Mortar store? If you start camping yesterday you might be fifth in line.
online stock will be gone in seconds
Damn, December 2nd is going to be busy. I'm going to have to choose between this and 100 McRibs.
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On second thought, maybe I won't even bother then.
It's always nice when the official response is: Were not sure what the cause is, so the fix definitely won't be in the next driver update. Bleh.
Thinking about replacing the 1080 Ti and 1070 the wife and I use in our PCs. Question is, what do I do with the old cards? Resale isn't worth it anymore I think.
I sold my 1080ti two weeks ago for 400€. A friend of mine sold his 1070 for 200€. It's worth a try.
Lower range cards tend to benefit more from increased VRAM capacity in sales so AIBs may actually push Nv to allow them to release 3050 8GB and 3060 12GB.
This can happen even if there won't be 3070 16GB and 3080 20GB.
More people are going to buy 3060s than 3080s, so these cards were going to be launching no matter what eventually. They weren't going to hold off on launching the more mass market friendly stuff even longer than they already have been.
The problem is that they can't make more 3080s. As this product launch has shown, there's something seriously wrong with the production process (or the product design itself) if they're pushing out 3060Ti this early in the cycle. This will be proven if there are significantly more 3060Tis in stock in the next few months.
It might be that the die (or even transistor design) is simply too big for Samsung's 8nm process to have sufficient yields at the top end.
that wouldn't prove anything. lower cost cards always sell more, so significantly more stock would just be a reflection of that fact. if there was a problem with production, I don't think we'd be seeing drops happening every so often or even any of these cards launching (or an actual paper launch).
if there wasn't a problem with production, they wouldn't be launching lower end cards while demand for the higher end cards was so much higher than the supply for them. The chips for all the cards are identical, with the lower end cards just having parts of the chip disabled. So, they want to sell as many of the expensive cards as they can. A single person buying a 3060 ti instead of a 3080 is $300 they don't get.
Gamers are getting used to be shafted when buying HW. AN X 60ti level card for 400 USD is insane. If prices of the 50 and 60 level cards get out of control we will see more gamers going back to consoles...
A 60 tier card should be no more than 300 usd. and 180 usd for a 50 card.
A 60 tier card should be no more than 300 usd. and 180 usd for a 50 card.
The numbers are generally higher than that. You're not selling double the amount of cheaper cards, usually, you're selling multiple times more.
This seems like a decent purchase, good
x60 Ti cards aren't x60 cards though. I'd wait to see what the vanilla RTX 3060 and 3050 look like price-wise.
You're looking at this like the successor to the 1660 Ti, when it's really like if there had been an RTX 2060 Ti that was a cut down 2070. This is a lesser x070 card, essentially, the numbers don't matter as much as the tiers.
In fact, I have to ask, how many x60 Ti releases are you basing your opinion on, exactly?
Oh absolutely, apologies if my wording was imprecise - I meant that what they want to do, ideally, is not launch the lower end cards at all until there is "idle stock" of the more expensive ones, so you don't have anyone willing to pay $700 unable to. The fact they are launching the 3060 TI so soon is a pretty good indication they have a lot of 3000 series silicon that can't be specced into higher end SKUs because of manufacturing yield problems
3060ti is more or less what 2060super was which was $400.
Also there is no "50 or 60 level cards".
Seeing that price makes me extremely sad. Knowing we'll be getting the 3060 at probably around $300 just sucks. Guess I'll be looking at a 3050 if I wanna get something I can afford :/
Are Founders Edition found there, or they are just nvidia page only?
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I'm pretty sure online FE is exclusive to the Nvidia site and Best Buy (at least in the US). So if FE is your goal, focus your attention on beating the bots at Best Buy.
EDIT: And use the mobile app only. The desktop page is a joke that will screw you over.
That wont happen. You have to pay a premium for DLSS and RTX now.