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Ron Paul has apparent stroke live on his show this AM
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Empathy is selective and I choose to give it to those hurt by his words and actions more. The county he's hospitalized in has had 163 covid-related deaths- many of which died from this "hoax" at the same hospital he's at. Even this is a fraction of how many minorities he hurt with his social-service fleecing and everyone with his pro-business climate change denialism. The man has spent an entire career promoting and actively encouraging the opposite of empathy- selfish, spoiled "It's all about me! My toys!" libertarian garbage. Now that you see people with different opinions (just like the free market!) pointing out he's trash, uncaring if he lives or dies, THIS is what makes some of you clutch pearls?
At what point does a person take agency for their own racism? We as minorities don't have time or energy to feel bad for racist white people because they may have learned it from their parents, as nepotism allows them to manipulate the very cogs of the system which are designed to continue our ruin but your continued favor.
The difference is you can sigh over the conundrum, but we simply get fucked over by it, generation over generation. These hundreds of years later, I'll be honest, it's white people's fault that racism is still the ruling party, not ours. Maybe it's time for the moderate white to wake up and realize what we know, that it is this way by design, not accident. Until YOU get combative with tearing down these walls, nothing will change. Are you tired of racism yet? Do something about it when black people are sitting down.
"Have fun winning people over with this attitude", you say. Yep, that's exactly where the ruling class want you to stay. On the sidelines trying to "make change without ruffling feathers", AKA doing absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Keep talking down to people whose lives are actually on the line every day, about what works though. I'm sure you've swayed a veritable horde of our enemies by saying things no one can hear.
I'ma proudly take my ban on that day. Ain't no stopping those posts.
I wonder Ron is using Medicare to cover this? He probably is, just like his idol Ayn Rand used the very social services she built a whole career on ranting against in her old age. These people are so fucking two-faced. I can't believe I was once swept up in the Ron Paul Fever back in 2004. Granted I was a dumb college kid who was only being fed the "good" aspects of Ron, like his ending of wars and eliminating the war on drugs.
It must be really scary to just lose control in the middle of a sentence like that. I wonder if you realize what's going on.
This reminds me of how the conversatives I know can be backed into a corner when I can get them to say, "Well, everyone hates social services until they need them."
I think Trump will be an exception to the rule, just like with any dictator who has harmed millions of people. Mods won't ban people for being happy that day.
Sure if you pretend there's absolutely no moral difference between a white supremacist libertarian misogynist and a liberal Supreme Court Justice
I usually don't bother posting if someone else already stated what I planned to, but seriously, must be goddamn nice to be getting well using the healthcare service this miserable fuck has been trying to take from millions of poor people.
Hope his piece-of-shit son is next.
My grandfather had a stroke and suffered from diabetes. He spent the last years in a wheelchair before the last stroke killed him. It was hard for him to talk.
My personal opinion is that I hope people who have chosen a profession where they are actively doing harm to others with their ideas/power get their comeuppance within the context of that profession. I won't use a person's misfortune to either lionize or demonize them. Only in the movies does the monster turn on the villain.
My personal opinion is that I hope people who have chosen a profession where they are actively doing harm to others with their ideas/power get their comeuppance within the context of that profession. I won't use a person's misfortune to either lionize or demonize them. Only in the movies does the monster turn on the villain.
Hey white liberals if you ever wonder why everyone knows from jump that you're fucking useless and weak just look at this thread.
Thank you so much for these responses. I didn't even want to respond initially since I didn't want to give mods another excuse to ban me from something. I have not one bone of empathy for Ron Paul or his family. Let him rot.
It means y'all were more concerned with meaningless gestures of goodwill than of maintaining a welcoming environment for minorities that you trampled over black people to wish a white supremacist good health.
Y'all got extremely mad at a member for tepidly reminding you that Paul is a white supremacist, which is not against the "spirit of the thread" nor the TOS.
Y'all have been arguing with black people rightfully upset that you all are wishing a white supremacist well, turning us into the enemy.
You have defensively construed this justified upset and the mere apathy to Paul as wanting to wish Paul a painful death in a stunning display of a false binary and strawman arguments.
Many assumed that people who didn't care about Paul didn't have a personal history with strokes, and that they were coming from a position of privilege. That's funny; black people are notorious for having cardiovascular issues, mainly because we're so stressed by living in a fucked-up world run by whites all the time.
Throughout all of this, only one member has apologized. The rest either scurried off, or have tried to argue "bu-bu-bu no one meant any harm" as if black people are supposed to treat grown-ass whites like children every time they throw themselves on the sword of the status quo at the expense of the minorities they supposedly care about.
And what pisses me off more is that y'all had the audacity to argue. It's clear the forum collectively know fuck all about Paul's white supremacy, and even less about black people, but you still got defensive, almost like you were offended that we came in and set the record straight. Imagine the gall, the arrogance, of being offended when people who know better than you correct you, instead of just shutting the fuck up to listen.
That is a facet of white supremacy, by the way. Of looking at a bunch of black people collectively banding together for a cause and getting mad about it.
This thread was an easy slam dunk for solidarity and maybe even a learning experience, and y'all failed to an extent that would make the Clippers balk. When it comes to decorum over justice, liberals will consistently choose decorum every time.
Don't none of y'all show up to the next march. We don't need fucking ops in the crowd.
This is how I feel about it. I watched because it was Ron Paul, but it makes me feel bad for the human condition & others who have suffered strokes.
Fuck off. We have empathy we have more empathy than you all will understand in your empty fucking lives we live with a pain and history you will never, ever understand and we move forward in spite of it. I will not issue a show of support to those that have made it a mission to hurt my people.
This man will receive the best treatment, the best care in part because he has profited off our bodies, he has profited from the suffering of people he will never even know. How many black people have suffered strokes and been left to rot inadequate facilities with no hope of recourse or recovery but you all hold peace in your hearts for this truly truly awful white man
I hate you people
You are all truly the worst
This man will receive the best treatment, the best care in part because he has profited off our bodies, he has profited from the suffering of people he will never even know. How many black people have suffered strokes and been left to rot inadequate facilities with no hope of recourse or recovery but you all hold peace in your hearts for this truly truly awful white man
I hate you people
You are all truly the worst
I mean as someone who's family is part Indonesian I find this rich considering all of the times you posted in the Asian Era takeaways thread and nothing has been done about any of it.
Just you posting meaningless gestures of goodwill rather than maintaining a welcome environment for Asian minorities.
Era has an empathy problem. No, I'm not talking about the people correctly pointing out that Paul is an abusive PoS, the posters who have an almost fetishistic desire to talk down to minority groups that have suffered at the hands of great cruelty for the sake of maintaining a false veneer of civility that is only afforded to those upholding white supremacy.
I agree with you but I also think the innate human condition of caring for others, trying to find goodness in situations/people, taking the high road, or whatever you want to call it, is not something to be faulted. Our better natures are not the reason Ron Paul is who he is.
I don't expect you to care that this monster had a stroke, I don't blame you for your anger even if I can't fully understand it as a white dude. I don't blame you for being mad at people for talking down to others for rejoicing in him having a stroke.
Strokes are just scary. That's my viewpoint. It's not exactly nuanced.
Its through the paternal side. They lived in Indonesia til the government upheaval in the early 1900s. Then fled to Belgium/Denmark with some eventually immigrating to the US.
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.
also, I'll note that "family is part Indonesian != I am part Indonesian." I mean, spouses exist after all.
That's interesting and probably was scary at the time. What government upheaval? I'm woefully uneducated on the topic.
Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
We tried in other threads, but nothing has been done and half of Asian Era left. So instead of just protesting when it's convenient in other threads I'm doing it here where others can see. Unless this isn't a good place for this, and we should only protest in our little safe havens where it's nice and doesn't effect other posters.
That's nice, I love reading about family histories that are completely irrelevant to the topic.
Let's keep it going. Were they Indische?
Imagery like this is likely to provoke an empathy response of some kind, particularly if you've dealt first-hand with something similar (my father, he came through fine. very resilient).
But then you snap back to your senses because I don't suddenly stop finding this man abhorrent simply because he had a medical issue.
But then you snap back to your senses because I don't suddenly stop finding this man abhorrent simply because he had a medical issue.
Imagine wishing a white supremacist good health. I'm supposed to believe these people in the thread actually give a shit about minorities when they talk down to them for not wanting to fucking care about this horrendous piece of shit politian. It's got a neo liberal stink to it tbh
What in the world are you talking about?
If you got mod beef make a another thread or something
just curious, what have you done for black people? I guess other than jack this thread from the issue we were talking about
How about bringing this up in a thread where Black posters aren't already having a discussion about giving well wishes to well known racists, that way you aren't taking away from that discussion?
Ron Paul never seriously offended white libs so therefore we have to give him sympathy, if he had been a cheeto that was embarrassing on twitter then we could wish him all sorts of harm and party when he dies.
What would we do without the whites to tell us who to mourn and who to mock?
Here is a simple question.
Would you get mad at someone for not feeling sympathy for Trump if he had a stroke?
Ron Paul's politics are just as abhorrent, racist, sexist, and harmful to the poor as Trump's after all. So why should we feel bad for him when I am sure if it was Trump there would be no sympathy?
My hunch is a lot of white dudes here got into Paul when he was a meme in the late 00's and thus have a reactive defense of him when his abhorrent horrible racist and right wing ideology gets brought up.
Would you get mad at someone for not feeling sympathy for Trump if he had a stroke?
Ron Paul's politics are just as abhorrent, racist, sexist, and harmful to the poor as Trump's after all. So why should we feel bad for him when I am sure if it was Trump there would be no sympathy?
My hunch is a lot of white dudes here got into Paul when he was a meme in the late 00's and thus have a reactive defense of him when his abhorrent horrible racist and right wing ideology gets brought up.
"Everybody is a product of their environment. Therefore, nobody can control their actions and we are all doomed to suffer at the hands of others" is quite a take
Just chiming in to say that you're one of my fav posters on this site. You're absolutely correct and thank you for doing the exhausting work of educating white libs.
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