Rogue One is the best SW film next to ESB. Change my mind

[Mr.Deadshot]

None of the characters are memorable, the villain is a nobody, nothing important happens, the leads' acting is extremely uneven, and the whole story never needed to be told in the first place.

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I disagree with nothing important happens. It fixes one of the biggest plotholes of the first movie and tells us why the Death Star has a weakpoint. I also think it does some good things regarding lore and world building. Showing rebels in a more shady/grey way instead of the "good heroes". I really liked the whole tone and atmosphere of the movie.

 

[FernandoRocker]

No need to change your mind. You are absolutely right.

 

[unicornKnight]

No. It's a boring movie that tells a story that no one asked to be told

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Imo that's the reason the spin offs didn't work. I would gladly watch 1 or even 2 Star Wars movies per year, like Marvel but they need better ideas for that.

 

[Deleted member 3093]

It felt contrived that everyone died besides the two leads, who then have a moment together very conveniently.

Also Whitaker's death was dumb

 

[Dixie Flatline]

I like Rogue One, but admittedly I fell asleep during the beginning in the theater. The second half is friggin fantastic though.

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Do people actually fall asleep like this when they're bored for a mere 30 minutes or an hour while a giant loud movie is playing or is this just a jab? If you're falling asleep like this, you need to either get more sleep or see a doctor.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

I enjoyed it immensely. But I detest the "change my mind" phrase.

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Also this. That smug far right Crowder meme needs to die in a fire.

 

[Rehynn]

No. It's a boring movie that tells a story that no one asked to be told

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99.999999% of fiction is stories no one asked to be told, so this is pretty much as dumb as an argument can get.

 

[Anth0ny]

It's one of the greatest farce comedies ever made.

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More entertaining than the movie itself.

A chilling exposé on George Lucas and the death of Star Wars.... that is also hilarious.

 

[joecanada]

It's a cool sidebar to an average set of movies . I enjoyed it

 

[Commedieu]

How can I change your mind on an opinion so wrong it approaches galactic levels? It's a Star Wars story where the characters are all bland and uninteresting. Where the characters don't really have any arcs. A film where you can barely remember the supporting characters names after it's over. I criticize TFA for being a nostalgia fest, but RO is essentially the cinematic equivalent of taking your Star Wars toys out of the box and smashing them together.

It's well shot though, I'll give it that. It looks very nice.



Reporting in.

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ugh.

YALL ENJOYED A MOVIE ABOUT A 1MPH SLOW SPEED RANGEWAR WITH SPACE SHIPS LOBBING BOMB AT ANOTHER SHIP IN THE DUMBEST SCI FI SEQUENCE EVER RECORDED.

opinion is not valid here.

Rogue One was a good star wars entry. All of the other ones are horrible. THe prequels were better than TLJ/all the other hogwash.

 

[StrangerDanger]

I enjoyed Rogue One more than Force Awakens because it was at least something new and i really liked the atmosphere instead of the campy one in TFA

 

[Mona]

i didn't give two shits about any of the characters, except maybe Galen.

really good looking film though

 

[BDS]

Rogue One is the epitome of style over substance. It is a very cool looking movie with absolutely nothing happening under the surface.

 

[BinaryPork]

I only really liked the last thirty minutes. Solo is more consistent over the course of the whole film, and I kind of prefer it to RO. Solo isn't really that good either, though.

The droid in RO is just worse ripoff HK-47 with less memes, and that was my favorite character in the film.

Mads Mikkelsen also felt very underutilized.

 

[Heromanz]

I disagree with nothing important happens. It fixes one of the biggest plotholes of the first movie and tells us why the Death Star has a weakpoint. I also think it does some good things regarding lore and world building. Showing rebels in a more shady/grey way instead of the "good heroes". I really liked the whole tone and atmosphere of the movie.

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But that wasn't a really a plot hole. like there's been plenty of things that have weak points that are super obvious when you think about it.

 

[Deleted member 50454]

Rogue One has lots of problems, but yes.

 

[KNZFive]

Such forgettable characters. Can't even remember the name of anyone

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That's my biggest fault with this movie. There's lots of really excellent parts to it, but there are next to no memorable characters.

 

[balgajo]

I agree with you my fellow! I'm not that fan of SW but that would be my choice. Maybe changing ESB with Rogue One depending on my mood.

 

[A. D. Skinner]

Hah, you say that as if the next option is ESB, when clearly ROTS is the best.

 

[NSA]

Agreed. It's probably my 'most watchable' Star Wars movie. If it's on, I'll watch it. I love everything about it, the tone probably most of all.

 

[BAD]

I really enjoyed it and the last act was among the best pacing in any of the franchise

 

[AliceAmber]

I loved it! It starts a little slow, at least for me but I think its a fantastic movie.

 

[Prophet Five]

I agree with you 100% but you're about to get dragged to hell and back. I liked Pokemon XY and dislike the story of Pokemon BW but that's an absolute sin in the Pokemon fandom. Let's ignore the fact that I think BW are good games but focus on the fact that I think N is a boring character and throw out insults because of it.

It's just how the internet works. People have an incessant need to be right and prove superiority to hear other people tell them they're correct so they can feel good about themselves. Normally I'd tell someone to ignore them but recently I've been so beaten down by all of the negativity that it's hard to get excited about anything I have interest in because someone somewhere is going to tell me I'm wrong for enjoying something and, by extension, a bad person/gamer/whatever.

it's exhausting.

 

[XL Hoodie]

Nah. Not real memorable outside of a 20 second Vader gif.

 

[Yasha81]

The movie is trash. They bolted some awesome action scenes onto a safe, generic, and tired story with forgettable characters and limited scope.

People like it because the last act is good, and so that's the impression they leave the theater with.

 

[kubev]

I can barely stand to watch any other Star Wars movie after having seen Rogue One. It's so much better than any other Star Wars movie, in my opinion, and I think it's ironic just how fresh Rogue One feels, despite it obviously being so dependent on elements of A New Hope. Plus, I went into Rogue One blind, and when I realized what story they were telling, I was immediately impressed, as I knew that none of the main good characters were coming out of it alive. I love the risks it takes.

 

[Sectorseven]

I knew it was going to be a mess the moment they had captions for the planets we were seeing.

 

[BossAttack]

ugh.

YALL ENJOYED A MOVIE ABOUT A 1MPH SLOW SPEED RANGEWAR WITH SPACE SHIPS LOBBING BOMB AT ANOTHER SHIP IN THE DUMBEST SCI FI SEQUENCE EVER RECORDED.

opinion is not valid here.

Rogue One was a good star wars entry. All of the other ones are horrible. THe prequels were better than TLJ/all the other hogwash.

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Yes?

I fail to see how the premise is bad. I also enjoyed a film where the main hero sat on a swamp planet the whole film debating the philosophical nature of existence and morality. A film's quality is not denoted by the amount of "big events" that happen, the plot advancing is not something that is a barometer of quality. ESB advances the overall plot forward a grand total of one-inch, it's still the best SW film.

 

[Deleted member 21339]

Honestly, I don't even like the space battle in this movie that much

 

[Book One]

It's fine, but I also enjoyed Solo more than it

 

[El Bombastico]

The last act is great. Everything before that is a mess that doesn't make any sense and with none of the characters being good in any way

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That's exactly how I feel. You just see the BTS clusterfuck in every scene in the the first two acts. The only reason you don't in the climax is because it was entirely redone and reshot by Ron Howard.

 

[Ronin]

It's right there with Phantom Menace as one of the most boring Star Wars movies.

 

[Ryan.]

Director Orson Krennic is my favorite Imperial leader. There, I said it!

Also I love the bit of the Rogue Squadron game is in this track:

 

[Deleted member 54292]

That movie made the Death Star legit menacing. Incredible effects work that truly sold the scale and power of it.

 

[Xiofire]

The last act is great. Everything before that is a mess that doesn't make any sense and with none of the characters being good in any way

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This is on point. You've nailed it.

 

[LetalisAmare]

Its the only Star Wars movie I think is good so no I wont change your mind.

 

[HellforLeather]

Not sure if its the best next to ESB but I really liked it. Much more than I thought I would and more than the Sequel trilogy so far. Krennic is a surprisingly great villain for a sniveling middle management imperial goon.

Yes, there is that unfortunate GCI Tarkin and most of the squad could be totally removed from the movie without anything being lost but I dug it.

Also, watching the OT ships in fantastic GCI but with more "realistic" camera shots like this make my inner SW nerd swoon...

 

[Deleted member 42105]

No need to change your mind when you're right.

 

[Lupercal]

I disagree with nothing important happens. It fixes one of the biggest plotholes of the first movie and tells us why the Death Star has a weakpoint.

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This feels like the dumbest nitpick in the entire saga?

 

[NinjaGarden]

Waste of time with nothing characters. Some nice space scenes at the end that don't involve any of the main characters of the movie.

 

[ZeoVGM]

The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars film, followed closely by Empire Strikes Back.

But Rogue One is fantastic, as is The Force Awakens.

 

[Elliott]

Sure, if all you care about are some fancy shots.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Aside from Forrest Whitaker being misused and mediocre Leia CG, I really enjoyed the film. Loved the tone and tenor of the film. Really fleshes out how desperate the situation really was in ANH.

Great movie. For me, near the top.

My current order, with the top 3 moving based on my mood:

ESB ~ TLJ ~ ANH > RO > TFA > ROTJ >>>> SOLO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BBQ shit spread on biscuits >>>> Prequels.

 

[El Bombastico]

I disagree with nothing important happens. It fixes one of the biggest plotholes of the first movie and tells us why the Death Star has a weakpoint. I also think it does some good things regarding lore and world building. Showing rebels in a more shady/grey way instead of the "good heroes". I really liked the whole tone and atmosphere of the movie.

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That isn't a plot hole. Plenty of real life buildings, vehicles and weapons had glaringly obvious flaws that no one noticed or fixed until it was too late. If anything, it shows what a vast bureaucratic mess the empire was that such a design was never noticed or fixed, and also their complete arrogance that a "single one man fighter" could never pose a threat to their superweapon.

 

[ElectronicOldMen]

The last act is great. Everything before that is a mess that doesn't make any sense and with none of the characters being good in any way

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Totally. It's kind of a slapped-together disaster on a fundemental, structural level

 

[Deleted member 18742]

Not sure if its the best next to ESB but I really liked it. Much more than I thought I would and more than the Sequel trilogy so far. Krennic is a surprisingly great villain for a sniveling middle management imperial goon.

Yes, there is that unfortunate GCI Tarkin and most of the squad could be totally removed from the movie without anything being lost but I dug it.

Also, watching the OT ships in fantastic GCI but with more "realistic" camera shots like this make my inner SW nerd swoon...

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Yeah gotta agree that even tho I didn't like the movie, cannot deny the fact the camera angles and stuff was super well done. Did a great job on emphasizing the scale of everything.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Casual fan here.

Rouge One is the worst Star Wars movie in the franchise.

 

[signal]

It's a subjective opinion, why does your mind need to be changed

 

[Lump]

It has a good third act, but I can barely remember anything from the first two acts. I don't even remember half the character names.

 

[TheAggroCraig]

Do people actually fall asleep like this when they're bored for a mere 30 minutes or an hour while a giant loud movie is playing or is this just a jab? If you're falling asleep like this, you need to either get more sleep or see a doctor.

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I'm sorry I offended you by falling asleep to a boring part of a movie at 10PM on a work night.