Under the law the rapist cant sue but it's written in a way he could get someone to sue on his behalf. It's an absolutely atrocious law.
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Roe v. Wade (technically Planned Parenthood v. Casey) effectively overturned in Texas.
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You can't progress if you are still fighting fights won decades ago.
What? He's not saying Biden can expand the Supreme Court himself. He's saying Biden does need too act in anyway manner that he can within his given powers.
Tho it's funny you say Magical solutions when the SC can just make shit up.
Whatever its time to turn Social media off and go to bed. I'll wake up tomorrow seeing nothing being done and angry tweets by dem leaders. I hope I'm wrong.
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What powers does Biden have to do anything about this besides making a commission to see if court packing is possible?
WHICH WE KNOW IS ALREADY POSSIBLE, It just takes an act of Congress.
He is the president of the United States, leader of the Democratic Party, and head of the bully pulpit. Obviously he has no "official power" here, but these are the things he was elected to do. To whip his caucus to get on board with his agenda.
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This will only get you a few more weeks max, afaik after ten weeks the fetus needs to be surgically removed. Maybe even before that.
I just don't get the logic. They don't want to wear mask because my body my choice. But your body my choice when it comes to womens pregnancy? I guess I made the misstake of applying logic to republican conservatives...
I always took it as conservatives trying to throw "liberal talking points" back at them. Just another way to "own the libs".
So in other words they are sitting on their hands waiting to magically reach 60 democratic senators‽
Roe Vs Wade is seen by the GOP as a dirty trick as making abortion rights law without making it law via legislation.
The constant battle between states legislation especially and the courts is the end result of the law on abortion never actually existing outside a SCOTUS case.
Of course, this then hits into the whole issue of states rights, whether abortion rights should be subject to federal law etc and the fact that Roe Vs Wade never actually ruled on when a fertilised egg becomes a human life in legal terms other than to say that common law in the UK (The basis of the decision) was to not recognise a human life as separate and thus subject to protections until after viability.
This perceived ambiguity is where these laws always try to exploit and this one, by making it a "citizens interest" to hold the right to sue abortion providers rather than the local government, removes one of the easier ways for local courts to strike this down.
It still should be struck down as not in the intended spirit of the ruling but this will not be a quick process, as the SCOTUS isn't interested in this unless and until the Texas court system is involved and who knows what they'll do.
I'd argue 2000 was even more important and overlooked in this regard. Bush got Supreme Court seats too and that election was straight up stolen.
It's a battle of attrition and the GOP played the long game, it was only a matter of time. It didn't help any that far too much of media spent so much time trying to convince people that they're overreacting and that these states would be struck down. Then after Trump got his two nominations, it was still the same "people are overreacting" normalcy take.
I hope people remember this the next time gun control comes up and people cry "it is too hard!" "It is too entrenched!" and then do nothing.
It might take 50 years and having a right wing media empire helps, but you can do something if you just keep going and fight hard enough. Maybe it works for something that isn't evil as well.
And these people will not stop. I expect same sex marriage will be next.
Never stop fighting back.
It's the nullification crisis again. If the states can empower their citizens to run around federal law then federal law doesn't matter.
It honestly feels like this country is just done no matter the metric you look at. SCOTUS is going to stay a hyperpartisan body just like the Senate now. Covid isn't going away. Red states are full sending into just garbage ass legislation rapidly.
~53-54 Dems in the Senate would be enough to at least weaken the filibuster and make carve-outs, if not gut it altogether.
I'm not 100% sure if a filibuster nuke would be a net benefit for abortion rights in this case. Unless something massively changes with the structure of the Senate (extremely unlikely), the GOP would vote to restrict abortion even more the next time they have a trifecta.
Yep. I was hopeful last year but then the people of Maine decided they wanted to reelect Susan Fucking Collins.
Gideon, Greenfield, and Cunningham (if he could've kept it in his pants) would have changed the ball game.
Luckily there are some good pick-up opportunities in the Senate next year - PA, WI, NC. Holding onto the House will be harder.
The deed is already done, the Senate killed SCOTUS and the lower courts. I really just don't understand the political calculus(or lack thereof) of Machine/Sinema. These bipartisan bills passed through reconciliation aren't going to save their jobs nor will it help the party come reelection time when the general public view politics like team sports with both sides essentially monoliths. They've damned us with their inactivity. Their handling of the filibuster tells a lot of people the system is broken and voting is pointless.
Nuking the filibuster is only a short term panacea, unless you can guarantee continued control of Congress for the next couple of decades which isn't as aspirational if voter rights are protected.
Essentially, yes. Since the State isn't enforcing it, it's okay.
False reports?
The problem is that abortion providers aren't going to risk it so they've already stopped performing abortions.
Nuking the filibuster to enshrine in law the rights of women over their own bodies seems like the perfect issue to do so over. We are looking at rights that have stood for 50 years being rescinded... Democrats have control, even bare control, it is time for them to act decisively.
Yeah I genuinely do not know how to get around the fact that Wyoming has 2 Senators and New York has 2 Senators
will be interesting to see the response when the first court case of someone 'turning' in a person for aiding a woman in abortion. Right now, its just words on paper. Lets see when it starts actually turning into lawsuits and criminal charges for the providers or those abetting OR when someone is sued who wasn't even guilty.
I mean...Damn. Nailed it I guess...bit lost for words, it's... Just awful.
and in 4 years with a repub president and senate majority, they get rid of the rights and back and forth we go every 4 years.
that isnt the fix we need.
You assume republicans would have congress, senate and the presidency in 4 years with the John lewis voting rights act voted in? I doubt that.
It's disgusting, usually I'm more of a conservative type but abortion should be a human right since they are a lot of scenarios a women can get pregnant without her free will, from rape etc. Not sure why this happened, I hope it's just not a religious thing since even ultra religious countries in Europe have made the abortion legal ( not all ofc, they are shit places everywhere)
Did you not just see how well Trump and the GOP did in 2020 with the largest turnout in a century? The idea that higher turnout naturally benefits Dems is a fallacy.
Nah, they will keep voting red because they're just as shitty at Republican Texan men
Kinda ironic but not surprising how it is always republicans who complain about witch-hunts yet they legalize and encourage turning someone in for abetting with abortions. Just the simple act of providing information related to abortions is illegal to those monsters. They are truly unredeemable, their way of thinking can be condensed to a feeling of superiority when they have control over actual living people.
It's why they take so much glee out of 'owning the libs'. It is stimulating to them at an emotional level.
It's why they take so much glee out of 'owning the libs'. It is stimulating to them at an emotional level.
are manchin and sinema going to vote to kill the fillibuster? no? then no they dont have the power.