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Roe v. Wade (technically Planned Parenthood v. Casey) effectively overturned in Texas.
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Yep it's fucked. The people who'd be worst affected are also people working two jobs who can't get free time even if they could drive/travel out
and texas is surrounded by other super conservative states, outside of new mexico, which is on the opposite side of the state where most of the people in texas live. Long, long drives.
right, by making them basically bounty hunters. But how does this law successfully adjudicate the mechanism of carrying out these lawsuits, in civil court? And how does this possibly convey damages to the plaintiff if literally nothing is done to them by the defendant?
That's because the rules are rigged in favor of reactionaries. And progressives are too few to change them, while moderates like how warm the water has become in the pot.
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and then they'll attack them as sex addled welfare queens when they dare to be human have sex and inevitably get pregnant
I'm not saying don't vote. People should vote, 100% That said, it probably doesn't mean much as far this is concerned.
The Supreme Court seems ready to completely gut abortion rights, and the Dems in the House and Senate do not currently have the power to stop them due to shitlibs. They probably won't have the power after midterms.
Being told to vote by people in power doesn't mean much in this situation. Just doesn't.
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enough of this depression, I'm going back to watching this history channel doc on the San Andreas fault from my LA 6th floor apartment. seems more positive and life affirming
not joking. I actually learned a bit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc4j59C_60E&t
not joking. I actually learned a bit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc4j59C_60E&t
Other states HAVE tried, but the court we have now is very different from the one we had 5 years ago.
Expect most Red states to move forward with similar legislation now that the floodgates are open.
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does anyone know abortion funds we, as a forum can help promote? I know we've done it for other things. I kinda feel unless scotus does something in the next 24 hours we should start to act and organize?
We have the numbers, and they are winning. Our wins in 2020 have produced no results except to slow the destruction. Biden and the "Democratic" Congress have accomplished literally nothing since the stimulus checks. No voting rights, no infrastructure, and things like DC statehood, filibuster reform, and court reform of any kind are not even under consideration.
Remember this the next time we're all mocking conservatives for how stupid they are.
Im still pretty convinced that this will be the last time democrats will even get to pretend to be in power. They had to fight coming in if they wanted to keep things afloat, and there's just… dead air for the most part. Vultures been circling for a while and there's no water in sight.
FDR also didn't have to deal with Fox News and an entire right wing news sphere that wants nothing more than to set the entire country on fire.
Yes, by all means vote. Then you can watch the world go to shit with a clear conscience.
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I mean he did, he had father Coughlin and his ilk.
I just don't think dems have the guts to attack the corporate media for what they are. they're scared of "partisanship" and a "backlash"
because when dems attack the media. they (the media) get on their highhorse about how "both sides hate them" so they're obviously doing their job right, even thought its mostly just laundering their owner's moneied interests
I knew this even before Biden got the office but you still have people to this day saying we shouldn't stack the courts.
We need to stack the fuck out of the Supreme Court.
It would have been one goddamn hell of a lot easier for people to vote for Hillary when there was literally an open supreme court seat up for grabs then whatever fantasy method you've concocted for this magic court stacking plan to happen after things are already fucked
It's hilarious American news talks about how oppressed women are in other countries, meanwhile you can go to jail for deciding what you want to do to your own body if you're a woman.
Wtf.
Wtf.
Just came here to post exactly that.
It's approaching taliban levels of shithousery towards women
Seconding this specifically, it was a really good overview of how bad that coverage is and how little anyone holds the court accountable.
In general it's been eye-opening to learn just how fucking much incredibly bad shit the supreme court's done over time thanks to them. Like you think you have an idea, but then you hear the specifics, and...
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At least the Taliban are pretending they are becoming more accepting of women.
In America it is a race to the bottom and you get celebrated for being the most awful guy in the room.
Surely our Democratic leadership will do everything in their power to prote-
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You got that absolutely right about escaping to a civilized society. Today republicans in Texas also allowed for permitless carry of handguns, no training is necessary. We always think that republicans want to go back that 1950s but nope, they clearly want to turns things back to the 1800s. They are absolute monsters whose very existence is to make other people suffer.
this is simply fantasy. Like, people really need to have a better grasp on the limitations of the executive. Trump spoke a big game but from a legislative perspective didnt get SHIT done. For all of his bloviating, he didnt accomplish anything that Anyother Republican moderate would've accomplished (from a legal perspective).
Biden isnt a dictator. He isn't King. To compare his situation to FDR is fantasy.
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Lets pick an article from 2017 from the minority leader of the House who has one major responsibility:win the majority for her party, and not force her members to take votes that put their house in jeopardy.
She isnt just a progressive congress woman. As the minority leader or speaker, she isnt there to make her caucus vote in a way that puts the rest of the house in jeopardy. Like, this isn't difficult to understand.
Dems could either be free to vote their conscience on certain votes and win the majority or be forced to vote in a way that puts their seat into jeopardy and lose the majority. If she knew she couldve won the majority with forcing a vote on abortion rights, she wouldve...
It's disgusting that this is actually going into effect. I really hate living here.
Technically, they don't have to. They will and vote 6-3 that states can effectively ban abortion.
Technically, they don't have to. They will and vote 6-3 that states can effectively ban abortion.
I don't care. Split the country and leave these fucks to their own fuckery. I'm so tired, y'all.
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Lol you're consistently one of the worst posters on this site, I swear. Just absolute shit takes.
Do you honestly think Pelosi has changed her position on abortion in 4 years to "Now I like it, actually"? You're literally defending someone who said "All Lives Matter" and thanked George Floyd for being murdered. Dems giving ANY breathing room to anti-abortion rhetoric is a fucking problem, how do you not understand that? Or are you too privileged to actually give a shit? We absolutely cannot have Dems in power who believe this.
Meanwhile, the spirit of Hobby Lobby is furiously masturbating while wearing a sign that says, "MY BODY MY CHOICE"
I mean you know that many of us that live here don't agree with this, right?
Yeah, I know. I live in Texas. I know that splitting the country definitely isn't the way to solve any problems and would just create a humanitarian crisis for all those left behind. It just kind of seems like things are getting progressively worse and worse, like we all woke up in the bad timeline.
I know it's not why you used them and it's a great gif to use in this situation, I just have so many people on my Twitter that never watched VEEP that think Selina is some kind of a heroic girlboss character it's always funny.
How fast does this back fire when Republicans get caught trying to get abortions after knocking up their mistress?
And to think we could have prevented all of this and even gained a liberal majority on the court had people fucking shown up to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Trust me, those with the money and power will be able to procure them, no problem.
happy to have left an impact with you.
and I can condemn Pelosi's on other matters like all lives matter/floyd and still understand her position with not forcing her caucus to vote on abortion.
and privileged? I have a wife and young daughter, and live in a southern state so nice try there.
Fact is, as the Speaker, Pelosi has different responsibilities than other members be it AOC, Omar, or heads of committees. You can yell, scream, foam at the mouth if you want but facts are facts.
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I don't even understand how that works. Trump was unsueable over anything because no one in the world had "standing." Now "standing" doesn't matter?
I don't even understand how that works. Trump was unsueable over anything because no one in the world had "standing." Now "standing" doesn't matter?
but that would require voting for someone who is a neocon and friend of a member of the KKK /s.
Trump and most government officials have immunity so they can't be sued. Even then, the government can only be sued for things they allow you to sue them for.
This bill gives standing to ordinary citizens to sue each other over abortion.
Sadly, things here will keep getting worse until it gets better. The bail and elections bills have been passed too.
That part of the bill is truly something. Seems like the Texan government doesn't only see itself in the Republic of Gilead, but the GDR as well. The Stasi would be proud, though they usually used force to enlist unofficial collaborators.
But it does so without requiring standing.
Imagine if your neighbour wrecked your fence, then got sued by someone two towns over. That's unconstitutional.
Time to start surgically implanting uteruses with live embryos in male politicians. Because if they care so much, they'll carry a child to term themselves without any choice in the matter.