Yeah, not sure how you can look at GTA 3/VC/SA and GTA V and then essentially say "Why can't they make 3 GTA V's in one generation?"
The scale and detail required for the modern games is just so massive compared to the older ones.
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Yeah, not sure how you can look at GTA 3/VC/SA and GTA V and then essentially say "Why can't they make 3 GTA V's in one generation?"
The scale and detail required for the modern games is just so massive compared to the older ones.
This is like saying "Valve doesn't make games" when they were constantly releasing new content for the games they were supporting.
GTA5 on next gen is a massive effort compared to even the PS360 version, and GTA5 still gets new weapons, vehicles, and modes. There's a content update dropping this week! It's not like they are just sitting back collecting checks, their business model changed.
GTA5 on next gen is a massive effort compared to even the PS360 version, and GTA5 still gets new weapons, vehicles, and modes. There's a content update dropping this week! It's not like they are just sitting back collecting checks, their business model changed.
Because I can enjoy it all?
Setting aside the fact that RDR2 is my favorite game of this generation and one of my favorite games of all time, some directors make films every year and some take their sweet time and deliver the goods on a much longer and more protracted timeline.
I'm happy to have both.
You can look at RDR2 and see where the time and resources went. Sure, I'd love them to be more prolific too given they are effectively my favorite developer but it is what it is.
Yeah,R* is probably my biggest disappointment this gen...they have 8 studios and ~ 2k employees.
I think they are in production of GTA6 now, RDR3 will skip next gen.
And all of those people were effectively working on RDR2 and frankly, it shows when you consider the scope and content of the game.
To be fair, releasing one new game over an entire console generation and banking on that game being one of the best games ever made and selling among the best selling games of all time probably isn't a very sustainable business model.
Yes,i am very well aware of that.But it's still disappointing.
That is true! But a different point.
But for R* it seem to work.
I'm sure R* could make a couple of uncharted 4 scale games if they wanted to, but instead they choose to progress the open world genre, which takes longer.
So nothing to see here.
So nothing to see here.
And Rockstar outsold their combined output this gen.
Your point?
I mean, Max Payne 3 - despite being one of the best TPS ever made - didn't do all that well at retail so they opted to consolidate projects.
The only other options were to lengthen the development time of RDR2 or scale back content.
I'd say they made the right decision.
I'd love to see more output too but there's not much they can do about it outside of hire another thousand staff.
They've been working on GTA V Online as a live service game since the generation started. RDR 2 was also a massive project that is far beyond most games, with an insane amount of content and polish. And it too, is a live service game that has been getting constant updates since it's release.
They simply got out of the packaged game business for the most part. 1 or 2 mega releases per generation + years of online updates has proven to be more profitable and more sustainable for them. I expect them to keep the same pattern next-gen as well, and will probably release ports of GTA V and RDR 2 while they work on GTA VI.
They simply got out of the packaged game business for the most part. 1 or 2 mega releases per generation + years of online updates has proven to be more profitable and more sustainable for them. I expect them to keep the same pattern next-gen as well, and will probably release ports of GTA V and RDR 2 while they work on GTA VI.
Graphic aside, RDR2 isn't it exactly the state of art of gameplay & fan, especially after almost ten years of development. I mean, R of today is not remotely comparable to R in the PS2 era in terms quality and they released tons of more games.
Hm, I guess that depends on who you ask? But in terms of pure contens and quality of said contents they are far far above prev. R*.
Good luck with that.
I mean, you're entitled to your opinion but the critical and commercial success of RDR2 suggests your opinion is a vast outlier.
No need to ask to anyone. I have far more fan in the PS2 era with their multiple games than the single RDR2 experience in this generation. But I don't think it's even matter of subjectivity here. The "courage" and the provocation mixed to the gameplay mechanics, that made R unique, different and special compared to the others, in the PS2 generation. RDR2 is not even the shadow of what was the true spirit of R.
I play regularly RDRonline and that's sad to see where money land this company. Such frustrating.
RDR2 is not even comparable to the single GTA San Andreas in terms of quality.
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Unless you're also a game dev, this is ignorant as hell.
Wonder how much money they've made compared to other gens....GTAV selling like crazy all gen,RDR2 doing well too,plus all that mtx online money.
Perusing Era often feels like battling a constant state of deja vu.
Definitely not for every studio or set of studios, but for Rockstar? There's absolutely no reason it can't continue to be.
Its a trend you can see across the entire industry. With exception to Ubisoft and the annual franchises, everyone's output has been diminished this gen.
we seem to being a sudden influx of threads that are just why can't company A. be more like company B and it almost every case the A company is far more profitable which I feel answers the question.
Unless that one game has a long tail and ends up making more money than those six games combined over its lifespan.
Absolutely but all of the GTA games released in the PS2 era are better than V which says that you can most definitely have quantity and quality at the same time.
They really don't need to. They can just keep updating the online shit for the couple of games that they do have indefinitely as long as they're making bank. The amount of shit they would probably want in a GTA6 over V would probably be better suited for new hardware anyway.
Absolutely pathetic to spend nearly a decade developing one of the best games of this generation and one of the most detailed games ever. Pathetic, I say.
Why did you remind me ;(, i just hope their next game is worth the wait
I agree and all this would be perfectly fine if R* is just 1 studio.But they have 8 studios world wide and that's why their output this gen is a bit disappointing to me, that's all.
I'm not a fan of GTA Online, but you can't just discount the work that they've done in adding content to support that over the past 6 years. It's nothing like what it was at launch on PS3/360. I wish they would focus more on singleplayer experiences, even if it was just DLC expansions for GTAV or RDR2, so I'm with you there, but let's not act like they've just been resting on their laurels. OK, maybe a little bit....