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Beignet

alt account
Banned
Aug 1, 2020
2,638
What's preventing WSB from mobilizing and just taking down other stocks? Is the fact that they are being frozen leaving them without cash at their disposable to start pivoting?
Theyre not pivoting because GME is still viable. No other stock is nearly shorted as this one. You're seeing a short squeeze under the guise of a "meme stock"

Literally a historic event
 

charmeleon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,380
Lol. Us peasants should know only the rich are allowed to make money in the stock market.

Can't wait for the fine in a year or two of a couple million dollars as "punishment" while this saves the rich billions.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Gambling is heavily, heavily regulated, in terms of where, when, and how you can risk your money. There's good arguments - and personally, I agree with them - that gambling should be even MORE intensely regulated, if not banned outright. It's a poverty trap for all but the extremely rich and unusually savvy, and exploits people by dangling the possibility of economic freedom in front of them, despite knowing that the public at large will ALWAYS lose more than they win.
bbbbbbut I might be the ONE lucky person today!
 

Caz

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,055
Canada
Not sure if this is legit since the second tweet has that questionable image from the other thread but...
 

Deleted member 70788

Jun 2, 2020
9,620
What's preventing WSB from mobilizing and just taking down other stocks? Is the fact that they are being frozen leaving them without cash at their disposable to start pivoting?

GME isn't fundamentally about just meme'ing a stock up with a Ponzi scheme (although it has potential to do that). Not all stocks are shorted above 100% like GME.

GME is fundamentally a Ponzi, but with the possibility of the entire lower threshold being hedge funds if they squeeze it hard enough. Most stocks aren't in that situation and you can imagine that if they even sniff that possibility they may dump their shorts now.
 

XMonkey

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,827
It's not classist at all and it would have been an entirely uncontroversial point for him to make a week ago. He's literally arguing against predatory behavior by brokers and banks on behalf of low income people who are targeted and screwed over by them. Do you think payday loans are OK? Everyone knows the interest rates are super high but that's on the person taking out the loan, right?
The tone of that post was absolutely classist even if you ignore the use of commoner and a week ago no brokerage was blocking people from buying shares with their own money in a blatant capitulation to giant hedge funds. Which is entirely indefensible. Context is important.
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,985
I think we can find a middle ground between "Commoners shouldn't be able to invest in stocks" and "lack of regulation created a viral pyramid scheme." Regulation and consumer financial protection is that middle ground.
 
Oct 25, 2017
27,760
Gambling is heavily, heavily regulated, in terms of where, when, and how you can risk your money. There's good arguments - and personally, I agree with them - that gambling should be even MORE intensely regulated, if not banned outright. It's a poverty trap for all but the extremely rich and unusually savvy, and exploits people by dangling the possibility of economic freedom in front of them, despite knowing that the public at large will ALWAYS lose more than they win.

Yea, gambling at least has to tell you the odds
 

Fuu

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,361
Commoners shouldn't be able to game. It's super risky and expensive behaviour.

I'm a former Fate/Grand Order series Master Class with 20 years experience in risk management and can explain a Command Card chain exemption to trading ahead and can calculate damage deltas in my head. I can calculate maker/taker credits into my loot box rolls. I'm the kind of person who should be allowed to do this stuff because I understand the risks and fees.

I don't do it precisely because I do understand how risky it is for someone like me without a ton of gacha in the bank to eat those losses.

Downloading an app should not give you access to the risky shit Genshin Impact allows.
Hahahaha
 

LGHT_TRSN

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,127
Gambling is heavily, heavily regulated, in terms of where, when, and how you can risk your money. There's good arguments - and personally, I agree with them - that gambling should be even MORE intensely regulated, if not banned outright. It's a poverty trap for all but the extremely rich and unusually savvy, and exploits people by dangling the possibility of economic freedom in front of them, despite knowing that the public at large will ALWAYS lose more than they win.

That doesn't answer the question though....

What am I being protect from not being able to buy stocks with spare cash I have.
 

subpar spatula

Refuses to Wash his Ass
Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,084
Gambling is heavily, heavily regulated, in terms of where, when, and how you can risk your money. There's good arguments - and personally, I agree with them - that gambling should be even MORE intensely regulated, if not banned outright. It's a poverty trap for all but the extremely rich and unusually savvy, and exploits people by dangling the possibility of economic freedom in front of them, despite knowing that the public at large will ALWAYS lose more than they win.
pretty much. You don't even have to look further than online slot machines or even PokerStars. People will dump $109 for the Sunday millions (maybe some random will have actually won it before), but they'll never win, they'll never cash beyond the first, but it's alluring cause of the riches. A lot of people who do trading or cash gambling have no idea that they're not winners long term. They just aren't. Some might, but they will statistically not be it. You won some blackjack? Great! Now you feel as if you need to play more cause you're a winner. You lose more than you brought. Repeat. Competitive gambling? Chances are there are people who you are against can easily handle any losses that day or month or year, but you cannot. They will still win. They didn't bring rent to gamble.

These unicorns are really just traps for people with less money and those with more will make off with more.
 

ZedLilIndPum

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,999
Damn, left for an hour and missed all the "commoner" fun.

I do hope that this does result in a push towards greater regulation. Stonks is nuts.
 

PancakeFlip

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Oct 26, 2017
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Love this, perfect in so many ways.
 

Heliex

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,107
Its gonna be real hard to get the Commoners™️ eye off stocks now. The market just changed overnight wether Wall Street likes it or not.
 

Lump

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,980
The market didn't change overnight. The plausible deniability simply evaporated.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
19,729
Is this legal? If so, and true, how is this legal?

It's legal if they were completely separate events, and not coordinated. Or if one action wasn't influenced by the other.

I'm guessing it's legal. I think a lot of people are suddenly going to discover the fine print that RobinHood glosses over in their urge to be the "easy" way to trade.
 

jph139

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,373
That doesn't answer the question though....

What am I being protect from not being able to buy stocks with spare cash I have.

The theoretical "you" is being protected from engaging in something you don't understand and losing money. People/organizations that are smarter and wealthier than you are offering people a service without vetting that those people understand what they're doing, putting them at considerable risk.

Some people ARE smart enough to make money off of the system, and maybe you're one of them. But most people aren't. I'm comfortable denying smart people their "right" to get rich quick in order to protect the livelihood of everyone else.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
pretty much. You don't even have to look further than online slot machines or even PokerStars. People will dump $109 for the Sunday millions (maybe some random will have actually won it before), but they'll never win, they'll never cash beyond the first, but it's alluring cause of the riches. A lot of people who do trading or cash gambling have no idea that they're not winners long term. They just aren't. Some might, but they will statistically not be it. You won some blackjack? Great! Now you feel as if you need to play more cause you're a winner. You lose more than you brought. Repeat. Competitive gambling? Chances are there are people who you are against can easily handle any losses that day or month or year, but you cannot. They will still win. They didn't bring rent to gamble.

These unicorns are really just traps for people with less money and those with more will make off with more.
Yeah, and when people like Musk get involved, knowing he has wild dedicated fans who will do anything he says, it ends up being rich taking from other rich.
 

Kenstar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,887
Earth
People are getting tricked into buying ps5's with credit cards on the hopes of flipping them for profit, so in the interest of protecting them from credit card debt we are requiring cash to buy a ps5 refusing sale of ps5 to any individual buyers no matter the payment method
no you cant use cash, check, store credit or debit card its for your own good you fucking idiot go away
 

Ikuu

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,294
Robinhood can't talk about protecting people, while also allowing them to trade crypto and options.
 

Snake__

Member
Jan 8, 2020
2,450
Robinhood will burn to the fucking ground for this, there isn't a chance in hell they survive
The owner's must just be cutting their loses and planning their escape which will hopefully fail

I cant see any scenario where Robinhood doesn't go under

Anyone with a Robinhood account should work on transferring their investments to a different brokerage now
 

LGHT_TRSN

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,127
The theoretical "you" is being protected from engaging in something you don't understand and losing money. People/organizations that are smarter and wealthier than you are offering people a service without vetting that those people understand what they're doing, putting them at considerable risk.

Some people ARE smart enough to make money off of the system, and maybe you're one of them. But most people aren't. I'm comfortable denying smart people their "right" to get rich quick in order to protect the livelihood of everyone else.

I feel like you're sabotaging your own argument. So I'm allowed to invest MY money in lottery tickets or drop them into slot machines, but I am not allowed to buy a stock because I'm 'too stupid.'
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Robinhood will burn to the fucking ground for this, there isn't a chance in hell they survive
The owner's must just be cutting their loses and planning their escape which will hopefully fail

I cant see any scenario where Robinhood doesn't go under

Anyone with a Robinhood account should work on transferring their investments to a different brokerage now
This is what I have been wanting to know. I came in to ask earlier but it was mid dogpile.
 

Zelda

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,079
What are the chances of people losing all the money they have within robinhood, whether stuck in their account or in stocks because of Robinhood going under? Robinhood federally insured?
 

Deleted member 70788

Jun 2, 2020
9,620
The theoretical "you" is being protected from engaging in something you don't understand and losing money. People/organizations that are smarter and wealthier than you are offering people a service without vetting that those people understand what they're doing, putting them at considerable risk.

Some people ARE smart enough to make money off of the system, and maybe you're one of them. But most people aren't. I'm comfortable denying smart people their "right" to get rich quick in order to protect the livelihood of everyone else.

So what do you suggest people that "aren't smart enough" to do with their money that they'd like to invest? Are you suggesting they should ONLY be allowed to take actions with their money that can be babysat to the point that no one can ever take advantage of them? Alternatively, if they want to make more money by investing or taking greater risk in sectors they MUST pass some sort of threshold that allows them to do so? Who will set that threshold and who is to say that that threshold won't intentionally be created to keep certain people oppressed?
 

Basquiat

alt account
Banned
Apr 2, 2020
369
Yes. This is literally revolutionary. You're investing in the utter demise of a Hedge Fund in the billions of billions that will do anything to avoid covering its shorts. If you have some spare non-essential money then go in. Just remember it's a gamble
No. The scheme is kind of dying. Those who wanted the Internet to rally behind $GME most likely left the game already. You're hoping for something great to happen but it most likely will not. People need to just take their losses or whatever profits they got and bail. RH and others doing this isn't going to be fixed anytime soon, SEC isn't going to barge in with guns and order them to reverse course.

ResetERA come on!
 

Beignet

alt account
Banned
Aug 1, 2020
2,638
What a delicious bear. Fuck you Wall Street, I'm holding and telling my friends to buy low.
 

Snake__

Member
Jan 8, 2020
2,450
This is what I have been wanting to know. I came in to ask earlier but it was mid dogpile.

They are basically proving without any doubt that they are 100% unreliable and cant be trusted with your money, and now that they aren't the only brokerage with no fees they literally offer nothing and you would be crazy to use them