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Robert Picardo (Star Trek: Voyager’s “The Doctor”) in early talks to reprise his role in second season of Star Trek: Picard
- Thread starter Quinton
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Voyager had cameos from Quark, Riker, Q, LaForge, Barkley, and The Borg Queen.
Tom Paris was originally supposed to be Nick Locarno from TNG, which is why Robert Duncan McNeill was brought back.
These are all cameos and one-off episodes. Picard is the protagonist of this new series.
Where does it say that the Doctor wouldn't be just a cameo?
That's a little bit of goal post shifting. Your original comment was about Star Trek suddenly doing nostalgia pulls like it was a new thing, when the reality is Star Trek has always been doing that.
Also, two of the main cast from Deep Space Nine are former Next Generation characters (O'Brian and Worf) and Deep Space Nine was supposed to have three former TNG alumni in its main cast but they couldn't get Ensign Ro's actress to commit to a new series.
There is a big difference between cameos and one-off episodes and the series lead like Picard. The closest example would be DS9 which brought in an unimportant character from TNG as part of the main cast ( Miles O 'Brien) and Worf after three seasons. Picard is the lead and Spock was a main character in season 2 of Discovery. It's one thing to establish continuity at a show's start or bring in legacy characters after a series has found its footing and its own voice and quite another to immediately jump into the nostalgia well.
Deep Space Nine invented a bullshit transporter scenario so they could have their own Riker show up on the show and not step on TNG's toes at all. C'mon, Trek has been doing this kind of shit for a long time now.
The most famous movie in the franchise is literally them bringing back an old TOS era villain.
The most famous movie in the franchise is literally them bringing back an old TOS era villain.
Deep Space Nine invented a bullshit transporter scenario so they could have their own Riker show up on the show and not step on TNG's toes at all. C'mon, Trek has been doing this kind of shit for a long time now.
The most famous movie in the franchise is literally them bringing back an old TOS era villain.
I believe Thomas Riker first appeared in TNG?
Yeah, you're right there. I stand corrected.
But still, my main point stands. Trek has nostalgia pandering all over it.
Star Trek has loved nostalgia. Look at Enterprise season 4. It's a one big nostalgia fest after another arc to arc.
Hell, I'd argue that part of what makes season 4 of Enterprise great is that it dips into the nostalgia pool a bit and fully embraces its Trek heritage. They bust out a random ass Mirror Universe two-parter just to show off the Constitution Class againStar Trek has loved nostalgia. Look at Enterprise season 4. It's a one big nostalgia fest after another arc to arc.
I don't agree. For me there is a difference between the cases you mentioned and making legacy characters your main attraction.
The whole premise of Picard is making a legacy character the main attraction.
The starship of the series is arguably just as big of a character as the main characters themselves.
Star Trek just conveniently has three different series where the main starship happens to be named "Enterprise"
You don't think it's a bit of a stretch to consider the ship of equal significance to the actual characters?
It's literally the first thing you see in the intro before the actors, their names, or even the title of the show is displayed on screen
Not to mention you're dodging my original point that bringing back the name Enterprise for new starships is a nostalgia pull in its own right.
Hell, Next Generations entire intro sequence is a nostalgia pull since it's literally the same intro as TOS
During the documentary the story writers all got together for a day and broke a hypothetical season 8 premiere, which was then storyboarded for the documentary and peppered throughout it.
During the opening scene, Nog shows up at DS9 in command of his own Star ship. He's about to warn them about something when his ship explodes, killing him.
During the last scene it's revealed that Bashir is part of Section 31.
During the last scene it's revealed that Bashir is part of Section 31.
And he said one of the best lines ever
"you miserable little smack head"
It is not my intention to dodge anything, the fact is that we disagree completely on this. You've explained your position, I've explained mine, there's not much else to go on. I can't convince you that the examples you provided are of a different nature, you can't convince me that they are similar, so we'll have to wait and see how these elements will be implemented in the actual show and continue our discussion then.
No nostalgia, no looking to the past
Bit unfair to point to a single episode meant for the 30th anniversary of Star Trek as a whole as DS9 wallowing in nostalgia.
IIRC it's directly integrated into her brain or something and can't be removed. Unlike Picard, Seven was in the collective too long and was way more assimilated.
Yeah I know that shot isn't from Enterprise B, but if Tuvok was an officer in that timeframe and Tim Russ is on the bridge in Generations (without pointy ears, though), did they infer that was also him?
I mean it's 2 characters
RIker and Troi are in this too and Data if anything it's a TNG reunion.
Not like they did a movie where the entire point was to find a way to bring back Kirk into the TNG era.
What are the odds that Kim would still be an ensign?
Not like they did a movie where the entire point was to find a way to bring back Kirk into the TNG era.
Man, Picard actually looks great in those early DS9/Voyager era uniforms. Wish they would have stuck with those.
Anyways getting back to the main topic for a second. Assuming Picardo is back in a non-cameo way, you'd have to assume that he's only connected by way of Seven being in the series as well. There's no other logical bridge for him to interact with Picard at all.
This is assuming Picardo would be playing the same EMH, after all. He was in First Contact as a different EMH (which was a great cameo).
This is assuming Picardo would be playing the same EMH, after all. He was in First Contact as a different EMH (which was a great cameo).
The Doctor uploaded himself into Seven's body again so they can all be together.
I actually forgot she was in Voyager, technically. But I'm pretty sure she only interacts with Barkley, IIRC
Are there or are there not 4 characters from VOY in this?? Ipso facto, VOY reunion.