I'm not really looking forward to this movie. It's like they doubled down on the depressing and brooding.
What was weird about the performance/character writing to you?
How can we be darker and more realistic than Nolan?
How about we treat it 100% serious and portray him like a sad, depressing , weirdo loser. Zero suspension of disbelief for the sake of entertainment!! People will love it!
No no no no no no noPart of me wants the realistic side but another part wanted a more MCU version of Batman if that makes sense.
It legitimately sounds awful. Like the trailers have me so hyped and then I hear things like this and they just make me tired.
If Warner had guts, they would edit the next trailer with a somber, "epic" cover of Radiohead's Creep.
How did you watch the trailers and not get what Pattinson is talking about?
Crawling in my skinIf Warner had guts, they would edit the next trailer with a somber, "epic" cover of Radiohead's Creep.
Idk man him walking into gunfire and beating the shit out of goons and then cars and fire and shit, doesn't really give a sad depressed Bruce vibe.
What about everything else outside of the snippets of fight scenes. Pattinson's Bruce looks like a wreck every time we see him. He's not making quips, he looks like Hell as Bruce and nothing about the vibes seemed to imply what otherwise.
He does. Out of pocket. He also tends to employ the thugs and henchmen he fights who actually try to get their lives together.He could probably go farther by feeding people and running social outreach program
See, in contrast, this kind of stuff is why Keaton's Batman never sat right with me, even when I was a kid...I mean, yeah, he's Batman, but he's spent by far the majority of his life being public figure billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne. I never understood why he would be as outrageously socially awkward as he is depicted in that movie.I actually really love Keaton's Batman because of how broken he is. Like his "date" with Vicki Vale is all kinds of messed up - like he's trying to imitate social skills instead of acting like a typical person. He's incredibly out of touch and is barely in reality.
Im sorry to be the one to break this to you, but we've been all talking about it. The Iron Maiden you use to get down to your basement is weird.What was weird about the performance/character writing to you?
What was weird about the performance/character writing to you?
Kevin Conroy is the best Batman, but I'm not counting him because his one live action turn was meh and it's not a fair competition if we're talking his voice work. He did the job for decades.
Kilmer's the best live action Batman because he's legit the only one who seemed to get Bruce.
He is weird. He does weird shit. He generally is in a Sisyphusian struggle with Gotham's darkness and often contributes to the problem because he both attracts an ever-increasing level of villains who try to top him (and each other) and never manages to address any problem with permanency. He could probably go farther by feeding people and running social outreach program, but instead he spends it on gadgets, a one-man intelligence agency that rivals the capabilities of most nation states, and an alternate mogul lifestyle.
It started with Tim Burton himself on how he saw Bruce in that movie (from a Hollywood Reporter interview with Keaton)
"I had met lots of the square-jaw type of actors, but it's like, well, why does somebody need to dress up like a bat? They don't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, they're not a big action hero. They're somebody who's intelligent and kind of screwed up. And Michael has such an intensity that it's like, 'Yeah, I could see that guy wanting to dress up as a bat.' It's all rooted in psychology, Jekyll and Hyde and two sides of a personality, light and dark, and he understood that."
I think you can see that everywhere in the film, not only about his neurotic, socially uncomfortable Bruce, but also the fact that he lives in a huge mansion by himself, with cameras set up everywhere to spy on people. Remember when Bruce walks into Vale's apartment and says, "Nice place, lots of space." He doesn't want closeness with others. And The Joker actually says something similar, which I always thought was drawing a parallel between the two characters. They are both screwed up people, and both wearing masks. Their sociopathy just went in different directions.
Most of this doesn't read as weirdo to me, especially not in the way that Pattinson has been selling it. How many rich people do you know? They're all slightly strange compared to us normal folks. They live in absurdly large homes with high tech security systems, collect a bunch of nonsense, sometimes struggle to make basic conversation because their existence is so different from ours. I don't think Keaton ever came across half as strange as Pattinson in that funeral clip. Pattinson looks like an animated corpse, lol.
How long until we get campy batman? Is it bad that I want an uplifting Batman who tries to find the best in people, but still plans for the worst? Would be a good vehicle for a fun Batman & Robin movie
I think Keaton's Bruce was definitely a weirdo. I mean from what little I've seen of Pattinson's Batman he is weird for sure, but I wouldn't even use weird to describe him, he seems a bit deranged. It's a different character and different time period in Bruce's life.
The DCEU is in the dangerous territory of being CW'd. Meaning no Batman and no Superman because they're off limits.In a big budget live action film? I'm not sure, though I can imagine it's possible/I hope we'll get a more traditionally heroic and fun Bruce when/if they recast Affleck for the DCEU. He's gotta share the screen with Shazam and Peacemaker.
The DCEU is in the dangerous territory of being CW'd. Meaning no Batman and no Superman because they're off limits.
It's going to be more they can't use them until Reeves and Abrams are done with them.It would be pretty funny if the Bat/Supes movies were in development hell for so long we got a new Justice League with no Supes or Batman but Shazam and Harley.