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Rivals of Aether: Definitive Edition releasing Sep. 24th / Creatures of Aether launching Sep. 28th
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LOL! I raised an eyebrow at that too, mainly at the footage shown. But hey, the online competitive scene seems pretty active.
it is telling a little bit too much about which type of players they want for their game when no single player footage is shown but they show crowds of esports
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I think it was just a kneejerk reaction because of COVID. Like I said though, they still run online tournaments, and they're very active with their competitive community, so it's a good message regardless.
EDIT: Well, it was my kneejerk reaction.
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From what I heard that it's quite popular for people online (tournaments-wise and custom characters (steam only!)) So I'm not surprised that they probably want to expand the competitive scene for the game.
like all fighting games (or platformer fighter), they always have competitive audiences, no matter how small or big the game is.
I thought it was weird to display that considering the pandemic happening. And I just had a feeling that Platy's message potentially meant something else.
i am just tired that every smash clone is either
1) made for meele tournament players
2) isn't a proper smash clone
3) is called brawhalla, which is still online focused
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1. The Melee inspiration is undeniable, but from what I've heard from the developer, the way Rivals was designed was to be Melee but easier. Melee was really complicated at high level, and the most fun part was rushing in and doing combos. Rivals was designed to amplify those fun aspects the most, so most matches are fast-paced with constant action as opponents are at each other's throats at all times. There's no shielding, and there's no grabbing the ledge. Instead, you have a parry that stuns a foe if you block their attacks so you can punish them, and every character has a wall jump which is mainly used to help you recover with the most common process being Up-B towards the wall, wall jump, Up B again.
2. I'm not sure what you mean here. I'm sure none of these games want to completely rip off of Smash Bros.
3. Well, I've never played Brawlhalla, but upon viewing it a bit, Rivals is nothing like it.
I mean that there is no single game besides smash that is casual focused and features percentage as a kill mechanic besides brawhalla ... and brawhalla still sucks in the offline department because it is f2p
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Ah, I see. For what it's worth Rivals has both stages with hazards and stages without hazards as a toggle, and of course 4-player battles are possible. There are single-player modes as well, including a story mode, which were the easiest ways to unlock content in the game before the Definitive Edition which unlocks everything. Rivals also uses percentages, which unfortunately wasn't shown in this trailer.
This can still be played casually. Melee can be played casually (and was/is).
Smash Bros. exists as do other "character brawlers," and they all are not going for Melee players - Melee players are playing Melee. Rivals is the closest a non-smash game has come to gaining their attention and time, but Melee is still active, so they still play Melee.
Again, other games exist and meet your criteria if you'd take your microscope off from whatever pigeon-holed perspective you have for platform-fighters.
Yeah i know all that. And i will probably buy it on switch since i am that kind of person, but the fact that they show more "join the competitive scene" than the story mode means that will feel more welcomed in Lovers of Aether than this game =P
I'm not sure if the Creatures beta test is under embargo. I don't think it's breaking an embargo to say it's good.
Most of the "Smash Bros-like" focus on the competitive section.
I've never understood why, when it's not why Smash Bros is popular.
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Smash Bros. is popular because it's a cross-over of extremely popular video game icons. Games that are inspired by it but don't want to go for the "all-star" angle and instead want to make their own unique worlds and characters lean in on the gameplay side in an attempt to capture those players who value the mechanics of Smash Bros. and want more games that play like it.
But they always focus on the competitive side, which is far less popular than free-for-all with items in Smash.
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You make it sound like free-for-all with items is the only way casual players play Smash. Maybe they player free-for-all without items. They showed clips of that in the Rivals trailer. Casual players enjoy 1-on-1s too. Team Battles even. I don't understand why terms like "casual" and "competitive" are such a hangup for some people.
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It's a free upgrade. Everyone who already bought the game will get everything.
EDIT: It's also worth mentioning that if you bought all the DLC characters before the DE update, you'll get "Infamous skins" for those characters.
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Rivals of Aether Unofficial Workshop Direct 09/15/2020
Join the Rivals of Aether Discord: http://discord.gg/roaJoin the Rivals of Aether Extended Workshop Discord: https://discord.gg/QuCxbsPDirect Collection: htt...
youtu.be
Also this game had an unofficial "steam workshop" (not avaliable on switch) direct and they announced a bazilion of mods
Including:
Pokemon Stadium from Smash Meele
Snake (in a weird trailer featuring shadow the hedgehog)
Brazilian Memes
2B
Ganondorf
Reimu
Nakoruru
The Goose
An adventure mode creator
I'm a little disappointed that during the stream he said there's no crossplay or account linking between Steam and Switch - I already own the game on Steam and was planning to get it on Switch, but now I'm a little more hesitant.
If I hear good things about the online on Switch I'll probably still jump in, but I'm going to wait and see for that since he confirmed the improvements to the netcode don't include rollback, and there's no wifi toggle or anything.
Still, Rivals is really great and anyone who doesn't already own it on Steam should definitely pick it up on Switch! It's probably my favorite platform fighter besides Melee (it's close with PM).
If I hear good things about the online on Switch I'll probably still jump in, but I'm going to wait and see for that since he confirmed the improvements to the netcode don't include rollback, and there's no wifi toggle or anything.
Still, Rivals is really great and anyone who doesn't already own it on Steam should definitely pick it up on Switch! It's probably my favorite platform fighter besides Melee (it's close with PM).
Dan Fornace (the RoA game director) wrote a Medium post about the Definitive Edition dev cycle, including details about engine troubles, reworking the netcode, Nintendo's approval process, and more.
It's worth a read for anyone interested in this sort of thing: https://medium.com/@fornace/rivals-on-switch-the-biggest-challenge-of-my-career-f2ebaf7280f3
It's worth a read for anyone interested in this sort of thing: https://medium.com/@fornace/rivals-on-switch-the-biggest-challenge-of-my-career-f2ebaf7280f3
Rivals of Aether rocks, it's clearly Smash-inspired but found a way to be its own thing rather than a clone. The effort that went into Shovel Knight's moveset, whew
Rivals of Aether turned out to be a hit at the Smash weekly yesterday, seems we will add a regular RoA set up from now on
Basically yes if you're interested in the improving/competitive side of things. If that doesn't interest you, the game has some fun casual modes but they might not be worth it to you. The focus is definitely competition though.
It was a bit of a hassle inputting my color codes from the PC version, but I'm so glad it's a feature. Got my favs looking wonderfully now :D
Is this version coming to Xbox or what? I have no interest in this on PC or Switch (because Project M and SSBU being available to me in those platforms would mean the game wouldn't get the love it deserves) and the regular edition on Xbox seems like it's been neglected tremendously (not to mention this is a much better deal).
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I have no idea. My guess is that the game wasn't successful enough on Xbox to warrant supporting it further, though that sucks for people who bought that version.
Regardless, I don't see what's wrong with getting it on the other platforms if you have them. I don't know what you mean by "it wouldn't get the love it deserves."
I meant that I know my playgroup very well and if I choose to take my switch or PC that night we won't be playing Rivals since a couple of minutes in it'll devolve into "let's just play Smash instead", which won't happen on other platforms where Smash isn't available.
I don't really understand the thinking behind choosing Switch as the platform to bet on for this particular game. Wouldn't the PS4 make much more sense? Switch already has Smash, Roof Rage and Brawlout, why not go for the platform in which RoA would be the superior game on offer compared to everything else (no offense meant to Brawlout, but RoA is significantly better and clearly the uncontested runner-up in the genre after Smash as far as quality is concerned).