So I just checked the stream to see what this is all about…
I think I might be out of the loop here…
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RIP hot tub streams; ASMR ear licking in 'tiktok leggings' is the new Twitch meta
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Destiny is a scumbag don't link his stuff
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Rofl
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I thought this was a joke and then I scrolled up.
At least she's having fun, I guess?
I will never respect low effort content in whatever form it takes, and this is no exception. I really do feel bad for veteran Twitch streamers who put in hard work and effort to stand out from the crowd only to be overshadowed by softcore porn on a platform where it doesn't belong.
As a collective, humanity generally trends horny-whilst-stupid and this is an absolutely perfect distillation of that I guess.
EDIT: upon further thought I think horny-whilst-stupid is maybe too reductive, and it's more like horny for the sake of horny. The internet is a place that can provide for you if you're horny, but I think that also has the double-edged effect of making horniness in its normal modes boring if you're overindulgent, so fart-into-mic ASMR is how some members of humanity are choosing to inject a little thrill back into the experience, medical sense and decorum be damned
EDIT: upon further thought I think horny-whilst-stupid is maybe too reductive, and it's more like horny for the sake of horny. The internet is a place that can provide for you if you're horny, but I think that also has the double-edged effect of making horniness in its normal modes boring if you're overindulgent, so fart-into-mic ASMR is how some members of humanity are choosing to inject a little thrill back into the experience, medical sense and decorum be damned
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You can't mix sex work and other entertainment on the same platform because it gives those who want to monetize their sexuality the most power. You're framing it as a female empowerment thing but I feel like that misses all the real life nuance of this.
If someone hired an accountant to audit their books and offered to double their wages if they did their job in a bikini, you would (I hope) find that to be wrong because then they're selecting against any accountants that just wanna compete based on skill alone.
Plus all of the customers are weird dudes with too much money trying to get a woman to do something humiliating. It's like if a black entertainer a hundred years ago got rich doing minstrel shows, that would be a bit fucked up. I think actual porn is fine but this stuff goes into some weird psychological control shit.
See this is kinda how I saw this too. Like I don't get "yasss queen secure the bag gurl!" Comments when these girls are acting like pigeons and farting into ASMR microphones then licking them. Uhh…no every party involved in this is equally as embarrassing. The paypigs and the streamers.
User banned (2 weeks): denigrating sex work
Yeah, I would never want my loved ones to do this kinda shit for money. The thought of my mother or sister doing this is making me gag.
If I had a daughter and I walked in on her doing this stuff, I wouldn't be proud, I'd feel like I fucked up greatly, like a disgusting disappointment of a father.
There must be some level of class even when conning stupid people, and it looks like we have blown way past that.
I don't know, man. Farting on microphones is fucking weird but if you're a broke college student then it's probably worth it to milk some neckbeards.
For very young children that use the platform (of which there are many), this should probably not be immediately available to see, which would likely necessitate them also not seeing it if they're not logged in.
Twitch probably values revenue more than the psychological side effects of seven year olds being exposed to increasingly bizarre and often degrading sexual performances so I doubt they'll do anything until they get bad press.
Except that isn't what's happening here. If an accountant was hired and she said to her boss "I'll do my work in a bikini if you double my pay" and they agreed, that's totally fine. Your example implies she's being forced to wear a bikini when she's choosing to for her own benefit. If a person wishes to monetise their sexuality as you put it, that's entirely up to them and there is nothing wrong with that. It's their body and their choice. At the end of the day, that's all that matters and if people want to pay to watch a woman in a miniskirt and stockings and a pigeon mask, there's nothing wrong with a woman choosing to provide that and if she's getting paid fat stacks of cash to do so then I give her my full support.
You want to call it sex work, fine, but there's nothing inherently shameful about sex work and, as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult and nobody is being forced to do anything they don't want to do, who cares?
Okay I should have put more restrictions on that example to make it clear that it's consensual and not a forced decision.
Your example is something I would find to be morally wrong as well. You're taking one skilled trade (entertainment, accounting, etc) and gaining more money with the qualifier that the person must be attractive and comfortable with sexual stuff.
It's basically the same thing as an employer only hiring the most attractive applicant. Between the skill and minstrelsy arguments, my point is this reduces women to being valued on how they look and how powerful they make men feel.
The benefit here is more money to pay bills. Streaming is notoriously fickle, 99% don't make shit, it's more like if you were an accountant and 99% of accountants made basically no money unless your caught the eye of an employer who does pay by wearing very little. Yes it's a personal choice but it's not really much of a choice.
Get that money by any means necessary so you can be one of the few people to actually be able to buy a house.
Im not even trying to understand the world anymore. But hey make your money as long as it doesnt hurt anyone.
She is getting an animal sanctuary, gotta get loads of it
Agree with you both. And again, there's the issue of young MINORS watching this stuff or young MINORS who might want to get more people on their stream (because they have a favourite streamer and hey they wanna try streaming too and maybe doing it as a career because teenagers have always been like that) doing shit like this, which sorry, it **is** softcore porn.
Ghostcrew pointed out Amouranth is the streamer who threw a fit about reverse racism when she got kicked out of a gym for live streaming other gym members without their consent. She doesn't seem like a great person to uphold for the sake of empowerment. And from what I see she makes at least $60,000 a month, so she isn't broke or in need of money by any means.
Her presence in the ASMR community endangers those streamers of being demonetized in the event Twitch decides to make a move. And because she's using the ASMR category, people who don't know what it is will associate it with a fetish. That community has already had a hard enough time trying to be accepted without some people coming in passing off microphone farts and horse masks as ASMR. She was on the front page of Twitch for most of yesterday.
Which is fine, if Twitch wants to be a mature site, or had age restriction/mature content flags available. She doesn't really seem to care who else gets hurt as long as she herself makes money.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainme...-are-damaging-twitchs-ad-revenue-1558348/?amp
I don't weep for Twitch itself, but the implication here is if ASMR becomes associated with whatever it is she's doing right now, the other streamers in the ASMR space will have a harder time making money from Twitch longterm. That's no bueno.
I don't know much about her. Doesn't sound like a nice person at all.Ghostcrew pointed out Amouranth is the streamer who threw a fit about reverse racism when she got kicked out of a gym for live streaming other gym members without their consent. She doesn't seem like a great person to uphold for the sake of empowerment. And from what I see she makes at least $60,000 a month, so she isn't broke or in need of money by any means.
Her presence in the ASMR community endangers those streamers of being demonetized in the event Twitch decides to make a move. And because she's using the ASMR category, people who don't know what it is will associate it with a fetish. That community has already had a hard enough time trying to be accepted without some people coming in passing off microphone farts and horse masks as ASMR. She was on the front page of Twitch for most of yesterday.
Which is fine, if Twitch wants to be a mature site, or had age restriction/mature content flags available. She doesn't really seem to care who else gets hurt as long as she herself makes money.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainme...-are-damaging-twitchs-ad-revenue-1558348/?amp
I don't weep for Twitch itself, but the implication here is if ASMR becomes associated with whatever it is she's doing right now, the other streamers in the ASMR space will have a harder time making money from Twitch longterm. That's no bueno.
I do wonder if Twitch will act, she's sort of pushing the boundaries but Twitch have put themselves in this position.
User banned (2 weeks): relating education level with sex work
Well thank you for this, I was afraid to make this comment and get banned, completely agree with you.
As a father of a baby girl I'd hate to see her doing anything close to this, just motivates me to make her get the best education period.
Completely agree.
Fair point. I notice the massive drop in viewers when Amouranth signed off as well.
Twitch did act recently. They stopped allow advertising during her streams. Then they acted again and started allowing advertising again. They must like it.
What a stupid world we live in where all these women have to do is basically sit there and the market bears this.
Think there's a lot missing in the world and I think most of us can agree we are in a pretty shit place and need some kind of drastic change of direction when it comes to how the media and places like these influence and put out stuff that honestly is just continuing a downward slide for this society.
I'm not even an old man I'm just an observant person, a parent and a husband that, while I'm not saying these women aren't attractive but damn, do something a little more productive and instead of putting out all of this and making money for it, do something more educational or productive or positive. And I'm not knocking The hustle because like I said before, the market is dictating this. It doesn't change the fact that it's quite sad and pretty disappointing where we are going. You weren't there and worry about the youth and the influence and the lack of censorship parents are not taking as much because they hand these devices that open up the world and it is quite dangerous.
Think there's a lot missing in the world and I think most of us can agree we are in a pretty shit place and need some kind of drastic change of direction when it comes to how the media and places like these influence and put out stuff that honestly is just continuing a downward slide for this society.
I'm not even an old man I'm just an observant person, a parent and a husband that, while I'm not saying these women aren't attractive but damn, do something a little more productive and instead of putting out all of this and making money for it, do something more educational or productive or positive. And I'm not knocking The hustle because like I said before, the market is dictating this. It doesn't change the fact that it's quite sad and pretty disappointing where we are going. You weren't there and worry about the youth and the influence and the lack of censorship parents are not taking as much because they hand these devices that open up the world and it is quite dangerous.
They're setting an expectation now that women streamers have to sell their bodies or it'll be harder for them to be successful . It may have been a choice for the first set woman to use their bodies for money, but they ended up dragging everyone else down (or what the other women consider down) with them.
It's the same with workaholics setting expectations that everyone should be working overtime for free and never have a life outside of work. It's really hard to break once it gets established.
the pathetic state of the world, society, and what the market will bear isn't these women's fault.
i don't want my kid watching this stuff either. but that's on me as a parent. what my kid spends his time looking at isn't determined by some softcore porn streamer.
They're just identifying the quickest route to making the most money. That road is paved with horny people apparently. Hard to blame them.
Would you look at this nonsense?Ghostcrew pointed out Amouranth is the streamer who threw a fit about reverse racism when she got kicked out of a gym for live streaming other gym members without their consent. She doesn't seem like a great person to uphold for the sake of empowerment. And from what I see she makes at least $60,000 a month, so she isn't broke or in need of money by any means.
Her presence in the ASMR community endangers those streamers of being demonetized in the event Twitch decides to make a move. And because she's using the ASMR category, people who don't know what it is will associate it with a fetish. That community has already had a hard enough time trying to be accepted without some people coming in passing off microphone farts and horse masks as ASMR. She was on the front page of Twitch for most of yesterday.
Which is fine, if Twitch wants to be a mature site, or had age restriction/mature content flags available. She doesn't really seem to care who else gets hurt as long as she herself makes money.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainme...-are-damaging-twitchs-ad-revenue-1558348/?amp
I don't weep for Twitch itself, but the implication here is if ASMR becomes associated with whatever it is she's doing right now, the other streamers in the ASMR space will have a harder time making money from Twitch longterm. That's no bueno.
It never ceases to amaze me how short-sighted and selfish humans can be.
For all the YAS QUEENers in here, ask yourself this: What will happen to the ASMR side of Twitch when the hammer eventually falls? Do you think advertisers are going to look at that kind of content ON THE FRONT PAGE and say, "Yes, this is the kind of marketing we want done for our products/services."?
So a (white) person of privilege, well-known on the internet as it is, takes advantage of a loophole to make (even more) money, the platform or section of the platform is negatively affected, and those who were previously eking out a living/building a community are negatively or irreparably harmed. Meanwhile, the person of privilege has made plenty off of their jaunt and can afford to go splash in other waters.
Forget the moral discussion about Amouranth or IndieFoxx or any other streamer in their "niche." Some might shrug and say, "Well, these streamers were willing/able to take advantage of a demand in the market." Sure, but what are the ethical implications for the communities that these parasites latch on to? What happens when they're left holding the bag for these queens who have pillaged the fields and left the serfs with no crops for the winter?
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Exactly! Now people who will go to women streamers will go and ask for this type of shit and they will have to do it if they wanna be successful. That's something the yaaaas queeners don't seem to get.
As someone who benefits from the ASMR to sleep awy faster than I usually would I fucking hope not. But yeah, uhh "yaas queen" "liberalization of women" "let the women do what they want" and all that, right? /s
I'm glad a lot of posters on era are making a lot more sense as the thread continues. All the "get money girl" posts are really short sighted. There are a multitude of problems with this entire situation, not least of which is how sex sells above all else. That's a terrible problem for other women who aren't comfortable taking their clothes off and will inherently have a more difficult time on Twitch (and other parts of life), by not appeasing the male gaze. There's a time and a place for sex work but it should be separated from these other ASMR streamers. Do it responsibly, not this fuck yours got mine mentality Amouranth is portraying.
Lmao wtf. This woman is unhinged.
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Just put it behind an age gate and be done with it. Let people be weird whatever.
This conversation about the meta-narrative of how society must police what some women do to benefit other women like we are some divine protectors is ridiculous. I find it likely in two weeks we won't be talking about this anymore, so who exactly are we protecting?
This conversation about the meta-narrative of how society must police what some women do to benefit other women like we are some divine protectors is ridiculous. I find it likely in two weeks we won't be talking about this anymore, so who exactly are we protecting?
Neither the most sucessful female twitch steamers nor the most sucessful asmr steamers use sex to sells their streams.
There are also no signs of "sexy" steamers having an easier road to success than other steamers and i would love some proof of that assumption.
Amouranth has been at this for years. It's not like she popped out of nowhere.
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Thought I would personally take it upon myself to investigate this new craze and ended up discovering the most wholesome content ever ... a pool filled with doggos!
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Now I've been watching this for the last 5 minutes and am glad it exists.
I dunno. It looks better than a lot of jobs. It appears she's streaming from a very large home, works whatever hours she wants, and is making tons of money. To me that's better than working at Amazon, forced to pee in a bottle while using the cry box because you're slowly going insane. Or being an executive assistant with 80 hour work weeks. Not many jobs are out there where you have complete autonomy and creative freedom.
It's really not that different than being an actor or any other type of performer. She licks ears. David Blane swallows frogs and regurgitates them. Nobody is saying "David Blane is unhinged." But people are saying "this woman is unhinged." I find that interesting.
I just don't agree. It's clear sex sells. I don't know why you want proof of that.