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Right-wing terrorists vow to return to Washington for Joe Biden's inauguration
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What do you think the National Guard is going to do to stop anything? You're making my argument for me by demonstrating that they really can't do anything.
And it's fucking bizarre that you're singling me out when this thread is full of people who don't pay attention to the real world saying "Machine gun go brrrrrrrrrr.".
It's just so insane to me that all those terrorists who stormed the Capitol were ready to die with the way they broke in.
The purpose of my post was to show the logic pervading this forum is circular. Also the national guard isn't going to solve a deeply rooted issue like this. Throwing some other military force at a problem isn't the answer.
This is the building now
I'm still baffled they're having a large, outdoor inauguration.
I thought for sure they would announce a smaller ceremony inside with select attendees. One because of covid concerns, the other being to instantly squash crowd size comparisons.
There is no answer that's going to fundamentally change the situation that's going to happen in the immediate future. There's literally no point to this argument other than ideological posing while putting words in other people's mouths. Either we're talking about the inauguration in a few days having a mob coming to kill Biden or we're talking about long term solutions.
If you're thinking the short term solution is a zoom call from a room... somewhere close enough for Biden to be in the White House by the end of the day, what do you do if that mob just decides to go to wherever Biden is? You'd still need the national guard to use force.
They are going to find out the hard way that facing military personnel is different from facing Capitol police. I hope for their sake they are writing their wills before they show up.
The real cherry on top of this disgusting post is that your idea that Capitol Police killing people openly would have had any effect other than getting those officers killed by right wing lunatics that actually had guns and could then argue they were used in self defense.
Covid seems to actually spread less outside than it does inside. See: lack of covid bump over the summer with the BLM marches, compared to the holiday bump when people gathered in smaller numbers inside. I say let it go on. Just have a national guard presence so the terrorists can't disrupt anything.
It would actually be safer in terms of Covid for it to be outside and socially distant hence that maybe one of the reasons why it is not indoors.
I saw this in pretty good detail on the news. I'm sorry but this is a temporary fence like you would.have in between people's gardens that's held in place by blocks of concrete about 2 meters apart.
It's not going to hold back this terrorist mob, they'll be able to quickly push through the metal and get through.
I hope they get a shit load of police, the national guard, tanks and whatever else they need.
It isn't though. AT ALL.
The military is NOT going to shoot first. And if Meal Team Six actually comes armed and ready to die the military is going to be overrun and trampled before they even react.
I guess. Hopefully these idiots see what's in front of them and their balls shrivel. But I think there's a decent chance that they're too entitled to be afraid.
And they're checking it twice. They've already showed their hand and accomplished basically nothing. They can't even kidnap a Congressman and they think they can assassinate a President??? What? Lol
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Very few of them were armed. And they had no idea where they were going. They only made it deep into the building because they had so much time relatively unopposed.
And we saw them scatter when just one person got shot near the end zone. There was a guy with an assault rifle right there, too, and he didn't start shooting back.
Did you not see Wednesday night? Small groups of the the national guard struck first against some of the wackos before they even actually made a move.
Maybe the Capitol Police will actually take this threat seriously this time and not welcome their off-duty brothers with open arms. At least I believe the DC Police and National Guard will be ready. The FBI better be all over this and arrest people BEFORE they start shit in DC.
Maybe they're depending on a fracture in the ranks and all hell to break loose in the moment. Gotta admit it's a scary thought.
Just preemptively arresting huge amounts of people would probably be an effective way to kick the problem down the road, but I don't see it happening.
There won't be a fracture. The military and national guard aren't going to turn on the government.
I hope they don't too. It is a relief, at least a small one if nothing else, that more seemed to vote for Biden than voted for Trump.
Welp.
DC police won't do shit, I'm going to hope the FBI does its job in the meantime and the National Guard earns its keep come the 20th.
No hint of that from anyone. Maybe you were confusing it with Trump saying that he wouldn't go.
I mean seriously, is that all?
And what's stopping these polices and guards from letting the terrorists in and take selfies with them just like on the 6th? They'll still be facing the same white mobs.
I can only imagine people using Twitter, Parler, and right-wing forums are creating a mountain of evidence for the FBI and police to act now. Much like how would-be bombers and shooters are sometimes arrested before they even reach their destination. Proactively arresting people could send a powerful message to these hate groups and contrast strongly to how so many were allowed to walk out of the capitol building without any consequence.
The national guard and military and secret service aren't the police.
Any assurance that they're not racists? Again, it's white, right wing people they're going to deal with.
Let's be clear about what their end goal was -- to kill all lines of lawful succession, effectively making Trump a king.
Because we already saw them not turn on the government the other day when they went against the Trumpers?
These guys were probably the same ones that were all like "Yeah, fuck the Taliban" back in the day. Now they're basically alike.
The sad reality of the situation on the 6th as shitty as it is with the blocking of the National Guard for Hours etc. If the Capital Police had been aggressive there would have been a massacre at the Capital. Certainly far more than 1 officer dead and 1 terrorist.
There were certainly complicit forces that assisted the Terrorists but there were also plenty of Officers who did what they could with zero backup against numbers they had zero way to control.
The Secret Service, National Guard etc. Will be fully deployed and heavily armed. The no cross zones where deadly force will be authorized will also be much further back. These terrorist's will be gunned down long before they can reach the capital this time around if it came to that. The woman who they shot was literally no more than 10 feet away from the rear door of the House Chamber. Which is why they fired so fast. There was no more retreating
No one cares about crowd sizes in 2021 except Trump. And he can't even tweet about it.
I dont understand the people here saying "Dont Worry this will be super secure". The Capitol wasnt secured properly either, not even close. I dont have alot of faith in there beeing alot of effort put into the security unless the MAGA terrorists magically turn into black left-wing activists.
Literally everyone was like "Fuck the Taliban.".
But these were the people who were doing next-level-dumb stuff like harassing Sikhs.
I'm aware most people were against the Taliban, but it was more the underlying fact that they were against them, but not against imitation of what they do.
Oh yeah, that attack on the Oak Sihk temple in 2012 was a tragedy and disgusting. They're so stupid that they don't even know who their supposed "enemy" is.
For those with questions about Biden's inauguration plans, read this article. The New York Times also has an article on the overall plan for a smaller, pared down ceremony with a "virtual parade".
Even the outdoor swearing in ceremony will have fewer attendees than is normal and the Biden team are telling people NOT to travel to DC for the inauguration.
Even the outdoor swearing in ceremony will have fewer attendees than is normal and the Biden team are telling people NOT to travel to DC for the inauguration.
A couple dozen cops isn't the secret service, national guard, and military.
The same national guard and military that didnt show up when the capitol was overrun by nazis? Yeah Im not betting my cards on these guys or the ones calling the shots.