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Right-Wing Hate Groups Are Recruiting Video Gamers (NPR)
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Boogie2988 did say that some good came out of the holocaust and he's still a totally successful youtuber. There's a reason they target the people they do.
Checked on the Diablo reddit today and there are threads full of alt-right dickheads complaining about journalists and SJW nonsense, it dosent surprise me they're trying to hone in on people who might be susceptible to this kind of thing using the whole 'us vs them' mentality.
Or Pewdiepie, dunkey, and Arin of Game Grumps all using the N-word. Some of the biggest video game personalities are fucked up people. Not to mention shit like CDP, one of the bigger gaming companies, being outright transphobic on social media. The gaming community is fucking scary.
So even to them SJW has lost any meaning and just become a term to call everything they hate?
The Nazis would have. They understood and capitalized on the power of propaganda through mass media, and there is no larger mass media today than video games.
It's not so surprising that video games have been an avenue for hatred and it's something I've seen a great deal of myself (though in a far less organized manner). We like to think about kids playing games online with other kids but often it's young adults who are preying on teenagers and younger. This kind of manipulation is difficult to shake off and even more difficult to pinpoint. This is especially true in the era of Trump, where the line between racial prejudice and politics is not just blurred, but frankly non-existent. Not to say that this is a problem in America alone, as far-right white supremacist groups have been causing trouble all over Europe and Australia and are slowly becoming less 'fringe'.
It becomes difficult for companies that host avenues for free speech to distinguish between political viewpoints and straight-up racism when a serious candidate for Florida's governor suggested that his black opponent was going to 'monkey up' the race. How do you distinguish 'political racism' from 'plain ol' racism'? The truth is that there is no difference and that is a massive, massive issue for online moderation. Sites like RPG.net have taken a drastic approach in outright banning support for Trump (and I think ResetERA has done a fairly good job itself) but these are much more enclosed communities with enough moderators to sift through almost everything that gets posted. You can't say the same about Discord, or Overwatch's team chat, or even bigger sites like Twitter.
It becomes difficult for companies that host avenues for free speech to distinguish between political viewpoints and straight-up racism when a serious candidate for Florida's governor suggested that his black opponent was going to 'monkey up' the race. How do you distinguish 'political racism' from 'plain ol' racism'? The truth is that there is no difference and that is a massive, massive issue for online moderation. Sites like RPG.net have taken a drastic approach in outright banning support for Trump (and I think ResetERA has done a fairly good job itself) but these are much more enclosed communities with enough moderators to sift through almost everything that gets posted. You can't say the same about Discord, or Overwatch's team chat, or even bigger sites like Twitter.
And how are the industry leaders fighting this? Not a damn thing, just like with Gamergate.
Yup, so many young kids being indoctrinated by these asshats. These influencers aren't going away either cause everyone profits of them.
Yeah, they want to normalize it like various other teams I had no idea existed until GamerGate (false flag operation, etc).
Mild shock.
Weirdly enough in MapleStory 2, there was this weirdo piece of shit trying to recruit in the world chat on the US East server. Kept saying something about white children, I think he got banned.
Needless to say these goofy fucks are in a lot of games.
Weirdly enough in MapleStory 2, there was this weirdo piece of shit trying to recruit in the world chat on the US East server. Kept saying something about white children, I think he got banned.
Needless to say these goofy fucks are in a lot of games.
You know what's crazy a couple days ago when tryna LFG for Destiny 2 one of the dudes was named "Himmler". Check the avatar and it was what you'd expect. I said nope. Crazy.
I'd have sworn this has been shared before here, but I can't find the original thread so maybe not.
Parents need to educate their kids about the current climate.
Parents need to educate their kids about the current climate.
This unfortunately.
I think the gaming community as a whole (well, the good ones anyway) needs to come together and sort this shit out. Not simply sit back and watch it unfold but create awareness of this shit and try and circumvent it with information and acceptance. No more "keep politics out of gaming" bullshit. Everyone needs to be talking about this and making sure intolerance is unacceptable.
Same. Every argument on social media with some of these goons ended up with them linking shit related to GG from hate sites that they either didn't realize were hate sites (because they were media ignorant) or knew what it was but didn't see a problem with it.
https://youtu.be/u1w07XZbdSQ
I also recall someone saying that he has stated he uses the word in private as well.
I can't recount exactly when, it might have actually been used in one (or several) of his "Awesome" animations he used to make for Newgrounds.
However, I can't speak for Dunkey or PewDiePie, but Arin has seemed to make a very obvious effort to become more inclusive and responsible with his actions. He seems to very heavily lean left and promote many positive things as of lately. I don't condone what he said or did in the past at all, shits terrible, but I think it's worth noting when an individual has grown past their horrible actions of the past to become a better individual in the present.
Edit:
The latter bit is news to me.
I'm not surprised considering how that shit's been so normalized online by dumb reactionaries with no real political ideology besides fear-mongering over the imagined SJW boogeymen. Honestly, I had no idea how bad Pewdiepie was until recently when I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W72gwNcOzag. There's literally over an hours worth of footage of him dog whistling and repeating tired, unfunny, garbage alt-right memes. I can definitely see how morons like this can act as an alt-right gateway to the generally uninformed, ignorant, and impressionable youngsters online. I mean, it's not like they're even cognizant of actual problems such as economic inequality, health care, or the right-wing ghouls who actually have power and are destroying the lives of so many every day. The greatest threat many of these youngsters online feel is when somebody tells them they can't say the 'N' word, so naturally they'd gravitate towards alt-right demagogues.
I hope more AAA titles include tolerance in their campaigns and games. One thing I was shocked to see in RDR2 was all the progressive undertones in the game. Youd think a title like that would at least be neutral. I hope we see more of that in the future.
Wasn't Steve Bannon specifically keyed in on the potential for the alt-right movement online because of what he saw in gaming forums and the like?
If I was looking for a group of angry, emotionally underdeveloped males with a victim complex and who are easily led to recruit as a mob then the video game community would be the first place I'd look.
Fucking Gamers™
Yep, their current online strategy is rooted in outreach to gaming communities, then whipping up movements, most notably GG.
It's surprising how many talking heads, pundits, current and former administration officials have found themselves in or in the vicinity of this particular orbit over the past 10 or so years.
Yep, their current online strategy is rooted in outreach to gaming communities, then whipping up movements, most notably GG.
It's surprising how many talking heads, pundits, current and former administration officials have found themselves in or in the vicinity of this particular orbit over the past 10 or so years.
What the fuck is going on with the world?
When I was a young boy, gamers used to be the tolerant ones. Gaming communities used to be inclusive and against the religious right wing bigotry that among other things bashed racial/ethnic minorities and LGBT+.
Surely I'm not misremembering this? I could swear this was the case in the late 90s and very early 2000s.
When I was a young boy, gamers used to be the tolerant ones. Gaming communities used to be inclusive and against the religious right wing bigotry that among other things bashed racial/ethnic minorities and LGBT+.
Surely I'm not misremembering this? I could swear this was the case in the late 90s and very early 2000s.
to afraid that the shitbags wont buy their games. They should market the games like you suggest and for anyone with a problem, tell them to get bent.
"Oh, you don't like the fact that there is a women in the war"? "Go play something else then, we don't want you playing our games".
Of course that wouldn't go over well at all. Such a shame.
Completely makes sense. They look for dejected, isolated kids with a lot of free time on their hands and a desire to be part of something bigger than themselves. Absolutely disgusting.
These people are monsters through and through.
These people are monsters through and through.
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The hands-off approach and laissez faire attitude video game companies have taken when it comes to moderating their online communities means they have blood on their hands.
The hands-off approach and laissez faire attitude video game companies have taken when it comes to moderating their online communities means they have blood on their hands.
The gaming community not sucking is only a distant dream, the vast majority is formed by fifteen-years old edgelords wannabe that find hilarious videos named "SJW Fail Compilation" and whenever Trump calls someone "Fake News". It's kewl bro.
I mean,
Maybe in a few years when they have to grow up.
I mean,
Maybe in a few years when they have to grow up.
Ya think?
I am going to post what I posted on that "gamer=people who play games" thread and you see how easy it is to nudge some of these people with these kinds mindset to easily into that trap of right wing ideology:
From the thread: I am disappointed by the lack of diversity depicted in Squadron 42:
From the thread: CDP tweets trash tweet about trans people AGAIN this time from GOG (Read OP):
From the thread: Assassin's Creed Odyssey has an Alexios Problem [Loomer]:
Such crown jewels of our society.
I am going to post what I posted on that "gamer=people who play games" thread and you see how easy it is to nudge some of these people with these kinds mindset to easily into that trap of right wing ideology:
From the thread: I am disappointed by the lack of diversity depicted in Squadron 42:
From the thread: CDP tweets trash tweet about trans people AGAIN this time from GOG (Read OP):
From the thread: Assassin's Creed Odyssey has an Alexios Problem [Loomer]:
Such crown jewels of our society.
The Mark Kern tweets made it to /r/all through the Diablo sub.
I understand their frustration but the comments there got GamerGatey real quick.
Go to the Overwatch forums and find yourself in any topic about representation, and you are going to be hit with a deluge of alt-right fuckery that Blizzard does not care to actually police and ban. But considering the strain of technolibertarian, meritocratic, anti-minority views that run through gaming, it wasn't shocking. What was demoralizing, though, is that there is a member who believes fully in that stuff but reportedly is in the running to become an FBI operative.
This shit runs deep. Ostracized white guys in a world of unchecked capitalism and shifting ethnic demographics inundating themselves in media that usually presents people who look like them as protagonists in black-and-white conflicts with violent solutions. Gamers are the perfect target. And again, gaming companies are doing nothing about it.
This shit runs deep. Ostracized white guys in a world of unchecked capitalism and shifting ethnic demographics inundating themselves in media that usually presents people who look like them as protagonists in black-and-white conflicts with violent solutions. Gamers are the perfect target. And again, gaming companies are doing nothing about it.
"Keep Politics Out of Gaming" : Don't make games about women, minorities or lbgt :: "There's too much Political Correctness" : I can't say the N word, use gay as a slur, or make jokes about groping my female coworker.
If someone is using one of those phrases, educate and correct them about harmful it is. If they're still willfully using it, kick 'em to the curb.
They need plausible deniability. What better way than to say "it's all a game kek" and then make the other person question if it's some joke they are missing. It's simultaneously gaslighting and cover.
I'm not sure how I'd react if I saw my son had turned into a fucking halfwit.
Also, what's up with these idiots and Norse mythology? Why are we going backwards?
Also, what's up with these idiots and Norse mythology? Why are we going backwards?
The only reason religious conservatives were the boogeymen back then was because of their attempts at censorship, that's it. Anti-gay and religious and racial slurs have been a part of online gaming forever
This is why I have to be pretty vigilant about who my kid is watching on Youtube and who he's playing with online. It's not always obvious what kind of garbage they're spewing by watching a few minutes. Why can't kids just be into Satan, like the old days?