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Rian Johnson on those who didn’t like TLJ because of its diversity: “Fuck them”
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...Ok but what the fuck does this have to do with this specific thread talking about specifically fans who are engaging in racist hate campaigns because they didn't like a movie about Space Wizards? Like, is your desire to inform us that you hate TLJ so great that you need to go into a thread that isn't talking about you just to derail it (again) because your hatred for the movie overpowers anything else like the actual subject of the OP?
"I cannot understand why people did not like it, therefore they must be sexists" is such an embarrassing take, really. There is a lot not to like about Canto Bight. The whole idea about a casino is not a bad one, but the execution is extremely poor and does not particularly look or feel like Star Wars. The character portrayals are so black and white to the point it's becoming comical, with the little kids standing up for the fathiers and the slave owners whipping the hell out of them. Even the fathiers in their stables look fucking depressed because they know how bad the war-driven society on Canto Bight is, because that's what animals do, right?
DJ is an interesting character, but how and why they meet him is a clusterfuck. So, instead of finding the right hacker, they are being electrocuted and sent to prison for... parking in the wrong spot. Creating one of the gotcha! moments that RJ loves so much, which was the only point of that scene. A twist because of a twist, not because it is what would logically happen. You know, I have parked in the wrong spot before, too. I have not been sent to prison over it. I have not been electrocuted over it. It's just parking wrong, lol.
Also, with DJ's ability to seemingly walk in and out of jail freely with his abilities, what exactly was he doing in his prison cell? Conveniently waiting for Finn and Rose to show up? Also, what a lucky coincidence: out of a billion people on this casino planet, they happen to stumble upon the one who can help them by pure accident. Good thing there were two of those master hackers on Canto Bight! Heck, maybe even the fathier they escaped on was a master hacker, who knows.
The whole escape sequence on horseback was painful to watch and the music in it was unbearable. It's the one track on the OST that I will skip instantly when it comes up. Pair it with Finn's lame "Stop enjoying this!" dialogue and it's pretty much the cue to leave the room and go to the toilet. You will never miss those 4 minutes of stupidity.
Guess I'm sexist now
I wouldn't doubt at all there's actual racists making a stink especially given the current political climate.
I'm also aware of how the horrific story elements unfortunately affected the minority characters more as well. Poor Finn, he had such great character build up in TFA only to be made so forgettable in TLJ.
No but I see often how good and justified critics of movies or any entertainment stuff gets silenced because of a very small percent of vocal idiots. Reminds me way too much of the Ghostbusters 2016 travesty where everyone was a freaking women-hating monster when pointed out that the movie was very bad by all necessary standards. You will always have some stupid assholes who try to ruin it for everyone. Rian Johnson is not the only one who has to deal with this kind of stuff. That´s what I want to say. And yeah expressing my hate for TLJ was probably another big reason for this post lol
Ok, and this thread is literally about that small percentage that have done real harm to the minority actors because of racism. You literally get like 2-3 TLJ threads a week on this site to complain about it. Why the hell did you feel the need to come into this specific one to make it all about your hatred of the movie? I thought you did not want to be associated with said racists, don't come into the thread about said racists talking about your hatred of said movie!
I feel like this post is going to get overlooked and is, in fact, required reading.
There's like a billion Star Wars and Rian Johnson threads you could complain in, why necro this one?
Whatever about the rest of this post that others are dialing in on I never understood this "It's a good movie, but not a good Star Wars" argument. It's like being handed a delicious steak then complaining it's not a hamburger. Would you rather it was a terribly shot/acted/edited movie that pandered to your own narrow sense of what constitutes the canon?
That analogy doesn't work at all. When it comes to food you usually pay money to get something you requested in return. If you don't get what you requested and handed money over, You have every right to raise hell to either get your money back or the actual food you requested.
Movies are a very different story than food thankfully, so the above doesn't nessarily apply to this Star Wars. I don't even know who asked for another set of movies honestly, but I'd argue that none of these three movies are even that good. The first was interesting, the second nearly serviceable, but any goodwill the second earns it is tossed right out in the third.
and that is if we ignore the Legendary Jebaiting of Finn for this trilogy and how people in on this board are smart enough to say "he didn't need to be a Jedi" when also having marketing push it as hard as possible. Just garbage all around.
I like Rian's movies since Brick but even his effort here was a swing and a miss.
I think it's easily Rian Johnson's best movie because it's him operating on such a vast canvas, far and away the most beautifully made in the series too.
As for the food analogy well sometimes you get a set menu and to me that's more applicable to movies.
I love TLJ. I'm pretty sure my black ass ain't racist. I think Canto Bight is terrible. I've already listed long write ups as to why, it has some good ideas, but terrible execution.