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Reverse information on “ They Didn’t Have Children and, Most Said, They Don’t Have Regrets”
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Happy environmentally-conscious parents that aren't husks are the myth!
Have kids if you want to and if you have kids and it's unplanned then make the best of it. Don't have kids because you want someone to take care of you when you are older because that is never a guarantee even if you have kids. Hell they might treat you very poorly when you are older. Just have reasonable expectations.
LMAO we getting to the point in the thread where people just recycle the shit from the first few pages
Man...your posts are not healthy. I think you need to get off the internet, honestly, or back away from it big time.
This is the dumbest take on the subject. If you really give a shit about the environment, you'd have children with which to raise responsibly with this message to make sure your level of consideration is sustained for future generations, rather than leaving the world to the people who do not care.
Get some fresh air, take a walk, take a break from social media for a while, put a priority on your own mental health.
Having children is a decision that each couple or single parent can only make themselves. That being said, it would be foolish to ignore the context of the world these people will be thrust into. Even if you do everything right, you should prepare yourself for some awkward conversations as to why when they're facing a planet with scorching summers, intensified storms, resource depletion, massive human displacement, and all the conflict that naturally spawns from that. "It'll all work out," is not a line that will hold much water this century. At the very least, you'll give them a better life than the 200,000+ years of brutal hunting and gathering that encompasses the bulk of humanity's existence up until the last 10,000 years.
I don't think it's that far out there to say that the single most destructive act you can do to the planet is to have a child in a developed first-world country. No matter how environmentally conscious we are, I'd wager that barely any of us really give back more than we take when all is said and done.
Not that I'd try to guilt-trip anyone for having kids, mind you.
My life and relationships got much harder and more stressful when my son was born.
I can't imagine a world without him though. I don't want to .
Parenthood is a different kind of joy... One that can't be compared to the joy I had when it was just my wife and I. I can't say one is inherently better than the other. But I cant say I would undue the decision if given the chance.
I can't imagine a world without him though. I don't want to .
Parenthood is a different kind of joy... One that can't be compared to the joy I had when it was just my wife and I. I can't say one is inherently better than the other. But I cant say I would undue the decision if given the chance.
Best choice would be adopting unwanted children and doing the same.
Sure. Everyone should adopt and nobody should have any kids.
Kids are nice and all but you need to put the effort in they deserve. My wife's siblings were super far apart so her entire life was raising kids. Me, well I stay stupid busy on both career and personal ambitions with art, music, game work and misc skill developments in things like sculpting and such.
We dont have kids. Late 30s. No regrets. Financially we wouldnt have even been able to do right by children for over a decade of the time we've been married. Have our lives been emptier for that? Fuck no.
We go out together. We spend time together. We've taken small trips here and there and after my career took off enjoyed real actual vacations. We meet our Bill's now and our debt is finally manageable. We've grow as artists and creatively in general.
Life only stops if you stop. Would children have stopped us? From most of these pursuits yes but it would've just replaced them with a different form of joy and fulfillment in spite of any hardships it produced. Folks assuming no kids equates lonely emptiness are wrong from my experience . If you're relationship is worth a shit it wont be dull or empty. This applies to both sides of the equation as well. If you treat being a parent properly even with hardship itll fulfill you.
Happiness isnt a single road is all I'm getting at. Theres awesome shit down both roads if you let yourself become a part of those opportunities completely.
We dont have kids. Late 30s. No regrets. Financially we wouldnt have even been able to do right by children for over a decade of the time we've been married. Have our lives been emptier for that? Fuck no.
We go out together. We spend time together. We've taken small trips here and there and after my career took off enjoyed real actual vacations. We meet our Bill's now and our debt is finally manageable. We've grow as artists and creatively in general.
Life only stops if you stop. Would children have stopped us? From most of these pursuits yes but it would've just replaced them with a different form of joy and fulfillment in spite of any hardships it produced. Folks assuming no kids equates lonely emptiness are wrong from my experience . If you're relationship is worth a shit it wont be dull or empty. This applies to both sides of the equation as well. If you treat being a parent properly even with hardship itll fulfill you.
Happiness isnt a single road is all I'm getting at. Theres awesome shit down both roads if you let yourself become a part of those opportunities completely.
I thought that on average hunter gatherers had a better work-life balance and generally less stress? That it was the dawn of agriculture that ensnared us toward the modern day way of life.
Sure. So are these people in this thread who claim to be childless because it's the right thing for the environment adopting?
It's true that they worked less, but life expectancy was less than half the current average due to exposure, disease, and having to hunt or being hunted themselves. Kids born now should have more comfortable lives overall even if shit goes really downhill in coming decades. It's people born after the latter occurs who might not be better off than our ancestors.
Ah if you're comparing with everything modern life brings, medicine and all, then sure, of course. I was speaking more to the 'brutal' part as had read it as meaning the hunting and gathering itself was particularly brutal relative to society today.
Could just be an educator or advocate, without creating an extra human.
what are these dumb takes. if you dont want a kid, just say it and quit finding dumb excuses
if you cared about the environment, go do something about it. dont travel, dont eat meat, dont drive, dont browse resetera,...
Read my post again, I never actually said that. Then go to my tree planting thread and contribute.
i don't get the avatar shaming and My first tree donation is on page 2 of that thread already
Read my post again, I never actually said that. Then go to my tree planting thread and contribute.
I hope people who have that certain opinion aren't following me on Insta because they're gonna legit hate me when I spam photos of my kids.
How is that a bad take? Educators and advocates can be just as influential on shaping the way people think as their parents.
I don't have or want kids. I don't travel much and bike when I can. I don't eat meat except chicken and fish maybe once a week. I teach environmental science courses to college freshmen. But I guess I don't care about the environment because I'm browsing Resetera? Whether my reasons for not wanting kids are selfish or altruistic are irrelevant in light of the impacts, or lack thereof.
The "if you have kids you hate the environment" take is the hottest of takes, and frankly offensive and wrong. First of all, one couples children will not make the difference, you'd have to highly restrict world population growth which would only happen with China style legislation. Second, it's a completely valid life choice to have a child, and to suggest otherwise is completely prejudiced against so many people and groups. I mean how out of touch are the eco "childfree" people- can you imagine them spouting this to a parents group or god forbid, somewhere where it isn't just white nerds on the internet? What reaction would you get?
We do all sorts of things that aren't good if your only goal is perpetuating the human race.
Massive environmental impact? Are you crazy?
Number of people in the world 7,500,000,000
number of people in the world with my kids
7,500,000,002
Your own personal decisions have no impact on the world. None. Some people are completely delusional about their place in the world - Apples decision to add purple as a choice in iPhone color outweighs any impact your life has had on the environment a thousand times over.
fair enough, but not pointed directly at you, using the environment for why you dont want kids is a dumb excuse. im not against people who dont want kids, just dont try and make yourself seem bigger than people who want/have kids
