The Hill's opinion section in general leans pretty conservative anyway. I'm not sure there's much to be gained from following it.
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Reuters: “I thought a woman could win; he [Sanders] disagreed,” Warren, a U.S. senator from Massachusetts, said in a statement.
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The Hill's opinion section in general leans pretty conservative anyway. I'm not sure there's much to be gained from following it.
There were at a private dinner having a conversation that we are hearing the "game of telephone" version of.
Bernie and Warren know where they stand with each other and know whats at stake. The bullshit is everyone else opinion on it that doesnt fucking matter at all
what on earth are you talking about? This story was obviously leaked by the Warren campaign to hurt Bernie in response to his surging poll numbers.
Yeah, her vagueness really cements the fact that, whether she intended for the leak to happen or not, she's more than happy to exploit the moment.
If that were the case, they would already be publicly fired...
This. A thousand times this. Jesus get it together folks.
This is such an obviously bad-faith interpretation of the original post that there is no reading of it in which you come out looking good, yo.
You've never heard of fictional characters being used to describe someone and it being rather offensive? lol
Worry not, you can find similar segments for Mayor Pete, for Biden as well. Her position on Warren is clear. And she is not wrong.
Mine as well. Her statement afterwards sounded like someone who wanted to be honest but at the same time trying to not stir up the shit more. Someone needs to get the boot (or fess up) for leaking a private convo but that'll probably just result in more conspiracy theory cries. Unless someone can find evidence she authorized this leak I have no reason to believe she knew anything about it.
The repeated claims this is all because of some Iowa Caucus polls seems limp. For one, fuck caucus' anyways, worst form of primary. For two the polling is pretty tight for the top four right now and if she authorized this trying to throw out some dirty laundry on him specifically thinking his followers would switch to her then the person we've seen giving speeches and policy positions must be a doppleganger 'cause that'd be a moronic move.
It is literally the same line she has used since prior to March of 2019. Not everything is about screwing Bernard.
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It's kinda sad how people In cults doing cult like things just assume that everyone else must be the same. Reminds me so much of Trumpist Republican projection, just this time coming from the left. You are literally just assuming what he said was excusing her when he's just posting the facts of what she did about it and you're using right wing talking points without any regard for that because "fuck her"
Considering Hilary was one comey letter away from being the first female president it doesnt matter what context you frame it in, a woman could certainly win right now. If he was going to talk about her policies it wojld be one thing but he supports policies ever further left
I believe Bernie
Put your big kids pants on it's a fucking election
What context does she need to provide? It's pretty clear cut. He said something, Warren says he said one thing, and Sanders said another.
To be honest, Sanders' own description of the events doesn't even reflect well on him, either. Imagine if you were a man and a woman going for the same job, and you said to your female coworker, "you know other people don't want you to have this job, right? They're gonna make it hard for you."
No one would go "oh, he's just talking about unfortunate realities". People would rightly assume you're trying to discourage your coworker from going for the job.
To be honest, Sanders' own description of the events doesn't even reflect well on him, either. Imagine if you were a man and a woman going for the same job, and you said to your female coworker, "you know other people don't want you to have this job, right? They're gonna make it hard for you."
No one would go "oh, he's just talking about unfortunate realities". People would rightly assume you're trying to discourage your coworker from going for the job.
I'm fine with comparing Warren with a shitty character.
It clashes pretty heavily with both things he's said and a number of demonstrated actions he's taken in support of women in politics. Even WaPo seems to suggest Sanders's words are being misrepresented.
It's frustrating, and a bit alarming. People aren't infallible, it's okay to admit the faults or mistakes of someone you support. It won't be the end of the world.
Bernie supporters have tons of critiques, just not the bullshit made-up centrist ones
Now it's been rendered inoperable, since apparently it doesn't stay private.
This is a dumb controversy all around but every time Warren is involved in one of these media controversies she manages to trip all over herself. Not a good sign for how she'd do in the fall.
Oh I'm sorry, did I misunderstand your comparison of Warren, a progressive politician running for president, to a fictional character who is a sociopath and serial murderer? Did you want to clarify it then?
Through all of this I don't understand why people are so quick to use stuff Bernie has said in public as reasons why he might say something different in private. He wouldn't be the first politician to do that, especially now that he's personally running against a woman and has something to lose, and I don't get why he gets the benefit of a doubt. What has he done to earn that, verses all the other men who've said the right things when the cameras are facing them, only to prove that they're less than stellar off camera?
It's gonna get worse. Unless of course we can mentally filter out the bullshit the media's obsession with drama and the disinformation campaigns .
No, it is not. This video is later than the initial events, and it is known that Sanders is not a sexist candidate. It has been known for decades, people keep posting videos about his speeches in this very thread, only for it to get ignored.
However, keep in mind that she produces 5-6 videos a day, and this election cycle has already been packed with events, so to find 10 that criticizes Warren, from a stated (i.e. self-described, clearly communicated) progressive host of the show is not only logical, it is also not unexpected.
for something recent I would suggest his regular support of leftist congresswomen Tlaib and Omar (neither of whom are white, either) from bad faith criticism from the right/'moderates'
Which is why a large portion of the black american population supports....Biden!
I like how the same people who've been desperate to call out Bernies staff for playing dirty and now defending Warren's.
Only he's publicly said the opposite? Including wanting her to run in 2016? It's his word against hers and to be honest she's not had a great record when it comes to Medicare or her heritage. Only one of the two politicians in question have held their beliefs throughout their entire lives.
I kind of assumed he told the truth about the climate making it more difficult for a woman to win. She misconstrued it to her staff to look better in front of them. Thus she didn't want it to leak.
It's kind of a nothing story given one of them doesn't want to talk about it and the other denies it.
Only he's publicly said the opposite? Including wanting her to run in 2016? It's his word against hers and to be honest she's not had a great record when it comes to Medicare or her heritage. Only one of the two politicians in question have held their beliefs throughout their entire lives.
I kind of assumed he told the truth about the climate making it more difficult for a woman to win. She misconstrued it to her staff to look better in front of them. Thus she didn't want it to leak.
It's kind of a nothing story given one of them doesn't want to talk about it and the other denies it.
Re-read their post, it reminded them of a line in one scene, they aren't saying both are the same lol
This thread sure is something else
Warren is not shitty. Her team might be. Don't let this stupidity have any affect on you. More of this is to come. Dismiss it.
Now that we are in conspiracy theory-land, I think what happened in that meeting is that either Warren or Bernie wanted to run with the support of the other. They disagreed on multiple things, and now they run against each other. I can imagine how Warren might have thought that Bernie will not run in 2020, as even half a year ago, his momentum was not as visible as it is now.
He's not running against them, and they endorse his candidacy.
I submit his support of Cenk Ugyur and numerous hiring/staffing gaffes as a counterpoint as well.
