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Resident Evil 4 will appear on future systems. How should Capcom go about it: simple port, remaster or remake?
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I say leave it as it is. Perfection should not be messed with. I don't even use the new textures that come with the UHD version.
A (unofficial) remaster on PC is being worked on as we speak (and it's all I need tbh):
thats fine
the official effort was horrible and incomplete
you need RE4HD in your life
I would say it's already been remastered since it plays in 1080p and 60fps on PS4. A port would be like Dark Cloud on PS4.
I wouldn't mind a remake on PS5 as long as the remaster is also available.
I wouldn't mind a remake on PS5 as long as the remaster is also available.
I keep seeing everyone say Capcom should just buy Albert and Cris's work on the HD Project and use that, but has there ever been any kind of precedent for that sort of thing set by any developer or publisher, let alone Capcom specifically? Seems extremely unlikely they'd ever do something like that, unfortunately.
What's more likely is them doing their own remaster effort, one inferior to the HD Project in every way... fundamentally altering the game's aesthetic, doing a generally shoddy, cash grab job, as opposed to respecting the game's legacy and treating the project with reverence. Let's face it, the HD Project guys set the bar pretty high, just take a gander at the pictures posted above. I'd be willing to bet that once this project reaches completion, it will remain the definitive way to experience the original RE4 with modern visuals for years to come.
What's more likely is them doing their own remaster effort, one inferior to the HD Project in every way... fundamentally altering the game's aesthetic, doing a generally shoddy, cash grab job, as opposed to respecting the game's legacy and treating the project with reverence. Let's face it, the HD Project guys set the bar pretty high, just take a gander at the pictures posted above. I'd be willing to bet that once this project reaches completion, it will remain the definitive way to experience the original RE4 with modern visuals for years to come.
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Oh I forgot about this project! Yeah it definitely looks like what UHD should have looked like. It's so crisp while maintaining the original look.
I would be so down for a Remake. There are already plenty ways to Play it smooth today.
(Just finished RE4 on Ps4 this summer and it was as great as always)
(Just finished RE4 on Ps4 this summer and it was as great as always)
For the first time vs "again" if you're already used to how it controls and know what you're getting into, then you won't have problems, if you come in with preconceived knowledge of how a TPS should play, then you could have a bad time.
Yeah but depending on how you define this stuff I can see how this can be confusing. To me, remakes are something built from the ground up with a new/different game engine, new assets and new everything. Remasters use the original game running off of the original engine and code, running at a higher resolution, that may or may not have cleaned up assets. These definitions generally hold up but there's been a few releases that have strayed from this. SOTC is a weird one because it's running off of the same engine and code as the original but the assets were completely remade and all of the models in the game were touched up as well. I can't think of another remake that has taken this approach. Shuhei Yoshida has referred to it as a remake due to all the assests being remade so I kind go with it being a remake but my point is that I don't think it falls under the traditional definitions of a remake.
With that in mind, I think taking the SOTC approach would make the most sense with RE4 and then find a way to implement optional non-tank controls for the haters out there
Very well-put, couldn't have said it better myself. The terms "remake" and "remaster" have begun to intersect and overlap in odd ways, and I found it strange when people kept insisting SotC 2018 was a remake. As you said, it consists of the original code, engine, physics, world design, gameplay, etc. Sure, there are some new features and QoL updates, but the game is 95% just a visual overhaul, and to me, that does not warrant usage of the term "remake" (regardless of how they opted to market it).
That said, it was the best damn remaster I've ever played. Bluepoint did a phenomenal job. That's how you honor a critically acclaimed, highly regarded classic, while also bringing it to a new audience in the process.
Theyll probably faithfully remake/remaster it like shadow of the colossus or the crash and spyro games.
There is no point in RE4 at this point without the HD mod.
It literally improves every facet of the games graphics from the ground up.
It's so good it almost impossible to go back to the original.
It literally improves every facet of the games graphics from the ground up.
It's so good it almost impossible to go back to the original.
Remake would be the right thing, especially considering how well Capcom has done by those in the franchise so far and how many times we've already seen straight ports of 4.
I would also like them to continue porting straight-up RE4 alongside a remake, though.
Edit: Speaking of, we getting 4 on Switch any time or what? Now I got my Gamecube controller hooked up to the thing anyways.
I would also like them to continue porting straight-up RE4 alongside a remake, though.
Edit: Speaking of, we getting 4 on Switch any time or what? Now I got my Gamecube controller hooked up to the thing anyways.
Well the RE Engine is right there so why not remake it? If it sucks oh well the original is still there and a classic.
I'd be down for a remake but I think it would come off as less impressive than RE2 remake since RE4 is basically closer to modern RE than the classics
But yeah given how awesome RE2 looks I would just say keep doing what you are doing Capcom
But yeah given how awesome RE2 looks I would just say keep doing what you are doing Capcom
Remake for sure just like RE2 is getting
They don't need to change nearly as much since it's already over the shoulder, but would be great to get some updates
RE1/2/3/CVX/4 I hope all get the remake treatment
They don't need to change nearly as much since it's already over the shoulder, but would be great to get some updates
RE1/2/3/CVX/4 I hope all get the remake treatment
A remake will change too much of RE4's identity. I'm not down with that.
Just remaster by updating the source code to allow more new effects and polygons to bring those things in and pay the RE4HD dudes to implement the hard work they did retexturing the game (among other enhancements).
Just remaster by updating the source code to allow more new effects and polygons to bring those things in and pay the RE4HD dudes to implement the hard work they did retexturing the game (among other enhancements).
An RE4 remake sounds really boring.
It's an action game. A really good one, but there's less rich ground there to "remake" into something really new and exciting.
For one it would probably still just be an OTS shooter, but with better aiming and movement options.
If they must remake the old games then hopefully they stop at 3 or CV.
Honestly the more I think about it the more I feel like RE1 is the only one they should remake. I'd play another RE1 with REVII FPS/VR control options. It's the most interesting scenario with the greatest sense of place and best enemies.
It's an action game. A really good one, but there's less rich ground there to "remake" into something really new and exciting.
For one it would probably still just be an OTS shooter, but with better aiming and movement options.
If they must remake the old games then hopefully they stop at 3 or CV.
Honestly the more I think about it the more I feel like RE1 is the only one they should remake. I'd play another RE1 with REVII FPS/VR control options. It's the most interesting scenario with the greatest sense of place and best enemies.
Eeeh, the PS4 ver is already pretty much perfect in my opinion, so I don't really see the need for anything but a port.
I especially don't see the need for a remake, I'm not sure I trust anybody but Mikami to remake Mikami's game. SotC remake is a good illustration that things can become a bit... weird when a game created by someone who possesses a singular artistic vision is recreated by random people. That's why I'm still a bit hesitant about REmake2 : I'll play it of course, but I'm not sure how it will stack up against Kamiya's game. We'll see how it goes but right now I don't know if I trust Capcom with remaking RE4.
I especially don't see the need for a remake, I'm not sure I trust anybody but Mikami to remake Mikami's game. SotC remake is a good illustration that things can become a bit... weird when a game created by someone who possesses a singular artistic vision is recreated by random people. That's why I'm still a bit hesitant about REmake2 : I'll play it of course, but I'm not sure how it will stack up against Kamiya's game. We'll see how it goes but right now I don't know if I trust Capcom with remaking RE4.
Both.
Resident Evil 4 remake, includes Resident Evil 4 classic.
Classic is the game we know with the HD textures from HDproject.
But I'd be really interested to see what the folks at Capcom could do with RE4 if given the chance. Change the controls, game structure. Do what you want. Just make sure the classic version is available for people to keep playing.
The classic versions of these games should not be forgotten.
Resident Evil 4 remake, includes Resident Evil 4 classic.
Classic is the game we know with the HD textures from HDproject.
But I'd be really interested to see what the folks at Capcom could do with RE4 if given the chance. Change the controls, game structure. Do what you want. Just make sure the classic version is available for people to keep playing.
The classic versions of these games should not be forgotten.
All of this 'gameplay is flawless' business I keep seeing in this thread, but RE4 certainly has room for improvement by axing/changing those shitty, outdated QTE moments and maybe even the Ashley babysitting stuff.
REmake it.
RE4 purists still have damn near infinite opportunities and avenues to play the original.
REmake it.
RE4 purists still have damn near infinite opportunities and avenues to play the original.
In my case it's less that I think the original is perfect and more that I think it's absurd to constantly expect big revisits to a given game until the end of time.
RE4 is like the one game where I think the QTEs are compelling and fun. I love running from boulders and handspring dodging Verdugo's attacks, not to mention seeing cutscene deaths play out when you fail one. Morbid, but very cool that they had fail states in cutscenes that way to keep you on your toes and shock you a bit.
It holds up beautifully so there's no need for a remake. I played the Xbox One HD release recently and it's still amazing. Just remaster the graphics and leave the core game as it is
Oh wow, you're right! I totally forgot about both of those. So is that three games that have taken that approach?
What is ERSGAN?
Well, there is an actual laser gun with unlimited ammo in the game, sooo :p
I am fine with buying it as is but with improved textures.
What I want is a Shadow of The Colossus style remake. Keep gameplay and artstyle/atomsphere and everything the same but with better graphics and a jacket option.
What I want is a Shadow of The Colossus style remake. Keep gameplay and artstyle/atomsphere and everything the same but with better graphics and a jacket option.
A remake? You don't fiddle with perfection.
Rehaul the graphics completely while staying faithful, leave gameplay and everything else exactly as it is. Bluepoint would be the perfect studio to tackle this.
Good thing the HD overhaul mod is about to be finished, it's pretty much exactly what I want.
Rehaul the graphics completely while staying faithful, leave gameplay and everything else exactly as it is. Bluepoint would be the perfect studio to tackle this.
Good thing the HD overhaul mod is about to be finished, it's pretty much exactly what I want.
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I think the game could survive gameplay changes. I think the core of the game is solid enough if gameplay was closer to the more modern Resident Evil games. Enemy speeds would have to be changed, but I'd be fine with that.
I would miss the tank controls, but the game would be more playable for new players.
I would miss the tank controls, but the game would be more playable for new players.
They'll remake the game one day for sure. The question is will that platform not have a port of the game as a result.
Like, if we're pretty deep into the next gen and there hasn't been a port, could you take that as a sign it's being made?
Sure the port would make money like it always has but why compete with yourself/possibly confuse people.
Like, if we're pretty deep into the next gen and there hasn't been a port, could you take that as a sign it's being made?
Sure the port would make money like it always has but why compete with yourself/possibly confuse people.
First they have to remake 3, so I don't see a remake of RE4 anytime soon. Not to mention it would arguably be the hardest remake of the franchise.