Nah. RE3 was the side-game, and should've been called RE2.5:Nemesis. CV was the proper RE sequel and should've been RE3.
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Resident Evil 3 Review Thread
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The biggest issue here is that there isn't much mileage if you don't like Resistance. And chances are good you won't like it. If this had something like Mercs Reunion, a 4th survivor ish mode and other stuff I would've get it without hesistation.
But this was planned to be bundled with RE2 right? I've read that. So that would explain the haphazard Resistance mode being created to justify it as a full priced solo release.
But this was planned to be bundled with RE2 right? I've read that. So that would explain the haphazard Resistance mode being created to justify it as a full priced solo release.
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Rephrased to provide better context, but I reckon you posted a few times at twitter that in a sense, the train would be used to explore optional areas (open-world in this context, not literally, also it was said the city would be more explorable than the original). Then the story would be completely linear as the player progressed after a certain point.
Resident Evil 3 announced (April 3rd 2020, PS4/Xbox/PC)
The first half of the game will be semi-open world, not full open world but there's a lot to explore. You can explore a big chunk of Raccoon City and there's completely optional areas and things to do, and various paths through the city to take as you're pursued by Nemesis. Once you get the...
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Oh sure I get that, I was only referring to some especially ludicrous posts, not the entire thread, should have been clearer.
Sure, a lot of people have been talking about that but I've "literally" seen posts in here accusing reviewers of rushing the game so their playtime is wrong, calling an 8/10 a flop, calling it a crummy game they hope doesn't get ported, saying they won't get it till its on sale, etc. By the thread, I did not mean EVERY Post. "literally".
Regarding the actual reviews? Well we'll wait and see but the overall slant is positive. I pre-ordered it ages ago and quite enjoyed the demo so shall give it a go anyway. I'm not a purist and am not too worried if it's not identical as long as it's fun. Each to their own.
What's wrong about saying you won't get a game until it's on sale?
If this ends up being actually true, I'd be more understanding of the compromises made for RE2 and RE3 Remakes, but hella disappointed. Both of the original games were beloved, and should have had their own budgets and time to expand on the original. Its the curse of doing any kind of remaster or remake of a famous game. My reaction for RE3 Remake is more critical since I realized how underwhelmed I felt with RE2 Remake after the hype and elan died down.
I am half petrified about any other game remakes from Capcom given their attitudes regarding content and gameplay for both of these games. Resident Evil 4 is literally genius in a bottle, and I don't see Capcom maintaining that. We also had both the original RE4, Mercenaries and a side story with the original GameCube release. You think Capcom is going to do any of that with a remake? They have a hard enough time keeping the original content for their games.
It's not going to happen, and I'm still somewhat peeved at Mikami if the rumors of him asking the team behind RE3 Remake to tone down the violence. Capcom has already shown that they are going to change substantial portions of their original games, and I am not supportive after two releases.
First playthrough for RE2 took me about 9.5 hours.
I'm expecting my first playthrough for RE3 to be around 6 to 7.
I'm counting on more enemies, weapons, and difficulty(someone said there are two additional difficulties above Pro) to give me about 40-50 hours play time by the time I'm done with it.
I do hope they add dlc content like they did for RE7, and RE2. Ghost Survivor, and Nit A Hero were pretty nice additions.
Maybe we'll get lucky, and get the Mercenaries Mode in there.
I'm expecting my first playthrough for RE3 to be around 6 to 7.
I'm counting on more enemies, weapons, and difficulty(someone said there are two additional difficulties above Pro) to give me about 40-50 hours play time by the time I'm done with it.
I do hope they add dlc content like they did for RE7, and RE2. Ghost Survivor, and Nit A Hero were pretty nice additions.
Maybe we'll get lucky, and get the Mercenaries Mode in there.
I wish they'd make a tab where they put all reviews together, regardless if it's a system specific magazine.
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Mmn-hmn, and as part of the game design document and what was being made, that is true. I think at some point they narrowed it off more honestly, but you can still explore a number of optional shops and such in the final game. They ultimately went for a more linear experience though with some things off the beaten path.Rephrased to provide better context, but I reckon you posted a few times at twitter that in a sense, the train would be used to explore optional areas (open-world in this context, not literally, also it was said the city would be more explorable than the original). Then the story would be completely linear as the player progressed after a certain point.
Resident Evil 3 announced (April 3rd 2020, PS4/Xbox/PC)
The first half of the game will be semi-open world, not full open world but there's a lot to explore. You can explore a big chunk of Raccoon City and there's completely optional areas and things to do, and various paths through the city to take as you're pursued by Nemesis. Once you get the...
The RE7 CE is even more expensive. 😭
Sucks that I couldn't get it at the time of release.
And yet RE3 was the game to actually move the series gameplay forward. RE3 was the game that added ammo crafting. RE3 was the game that added an element of precedural items. RE3 was the game that added players choices to change the story. RE3 was the game that added a dodge mechanic. RE3 was the game that added the quick turn. RE3 was the game that made moving on stairs smooth. RE3 was the game with a stalker enemy unlike anything the series had seen before.
What did Code Veronica add again? Other than bad level design, bad enemy design and a hilariously bad story I mean.
Yes. That is a shame. It would have been a perfect scenario if they went the route of semi-open world, with optional locations and using the train as a hub. I wonder what happened :( To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they decided to delay the game to Sep 28th (pun intended) and work on the missing or extra locations... I don't know. Well, at least we have a Remake... what makes me sad is the wasted opportunity to make it a stellar product.
I don't mind a linear story, I was just hoping to really get to explore the city and all it's dangers with ocassionaly non-scripted pursuits.
EDIT: Anyways, thank you for sharing and teasing us with informations. I am perfectly aware that things change during projects. I am just sad that RE3 got the short end of the stick.
The needless discussion that Resident Evil 3 is not Resident Evil 3.
Yes and no. In a lot of ways the backgrounds of the PS1 games hold up better than Code Veronica's visuals. But yes technically you are correct.
Does no one want to live through this, but with the re-engine?
I know I'm not alone, don't lie.
That game also had:Yeah how dare a game come out with only a 6-7 hour campaign...lol
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- randomized puzzles and enemies location
- branching paths (including one optional boss battle)
- 7 (or more) outfits for Jill to unlock
- an unlockable Mercenaries mode
- 8 Epilogue Files to unlock
So even if the campaign itself was short, you could still replay the game a couple of times and still have something new to experience.
Plus, reports say that RE3R is shorter than 6-7 and quite easy on normal difficulty.
Is Resistance going to be a separate download(on Steam) or included in the RE3 file?
I really wish it was a Mercenaries mode instead of whatever the hell that is.
I really wish it was a Mercenaries mode instead of whatever the hell that is.
Code Veronica's cutscenes are the epitome of so bad it's good. I can't lie I enjoyed the fuck out of damn near every Code Veronica cutscene. It's bad, but it's the right kind of bad. A remake couldn't possibly replicate it.
Probably won't be getting this unless it's on sale, but I agree 100% with this.
I get that people are upset that the game is short, but yall shouldn't sleep on the multiplayer mode.
That's contrary to what I've heard a lot of others say. I'll try to fit in some time with the beta between playing Persona 5 Royal, but it looked fun to me. Just with anything your mileage may vary of course.
I don't pay for online. I'd try it if I could. But here we are.
I knew Jim would make a toilet paper joke. Such a shame he makes so much negative content! Only a Top 5 of the year contender? Not gud enough, sorry.
They even cut Chungus? Sad times.
The MP Beta is good btw. Like a 7/10 contender on the lower end. We´ll see.
They even cut Chungus? Sad times.
The MP Beta is good btw. Like a 7/10 contender on the lower end. We´ll see.
Eh, not totally surprised about the scores, I knew they would have a very hard time balancing Nemesis capabilities for modern gameplay.
Big Disappointment for the cut areas, but I hear they added new ones, so I'll reserve judgement until I play it.
Big Disappointment for the cut areas, but I hear they added new ones, so I'll reserve judgement until I play it.
Would something like that actually be any fun solo? I mean I suppose there's no reason not to try it and see.
Jim showed off Nemi with a rocket launcher so it´s not just the one running away bit where he has it. We knew it was 99% confirmed to be a part of his roaming arsenal but there you go. 100% confirmed. He gave it a "8 point 10 A B". A score one can trust.
It will be funny when half the people who cry out about specific "cuts" are proven wrong on a larger stage that those elements are still in the game. Like the mines. They actually work now.
It will be funny when half the people who cry out about specific "cuts" are proven wrong on a larger stage that those elements are still in the game. Like the mines. They actually work now.
It's pretty fun to me, no idea about the longevity of it seems like the kind of game where cheesy strats will become dominant, but I had a blast last night.
Everything you said I agree with, but he's right. Resident evil CV was actually going to be called Re3 until Sony requested RE3 on the psx and the Dreamcast game be called something else.
From my understanding (based on the Easy Allies review) RE3 remake has unlockable weapons and outfits, plus there's a whole multiplayer mode as well. Obviously quality is subjective but I can't agree with the idea that RE3 should not be $60.
Nah it really wasn't. CV was always called CV. RE3 being called 3 has nothing to do with CV.
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Nah it really wasn't. CV was always called CV. RE3 being called 3 has nothing to do with CV.
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Stand corrected-id read the opposite many times elsewhere. Good read!
I still like cv more :p
I'm not saying it's not worth it. I'm just disappointed that they cut features that RE3 was known for and that actually increased replayability and replaced them with nothing. If the game is fun I will probably play it more than once, but knowing everything there is to known after a single playthrough is sad.
RE2R at least had the 2nd run mode which was a sort of arrange mode - you start inn a different location, have a different base weapon, enemies and item locations are changed, and you are chased by Mr. X from the very beginning. If a similar mode was available in RE3 I would be happy.
And Resistance, which is a tacked on multiplayer game which is reported to be pretty meh, is not a good replacement for what's not there.
I've just seen a team made an HD mode for Resident Evil 3 GameCube on Dolphin. It's going to be a good evening.
People saying it was an average RE game don't know what they're talking about.
People saying it was an average RE game don't know what they're talking about.
There's new areas so they didn't add nothing. And I've only read a handful of negative impressions of the multiplayer mode, so I can't agree with that last bit. Here at least the thread is almost all positive surprisingly.
I don't blame you for thinking that. The rumor about CV being 3 is really old and people kept believing it and retelling it over and over.
The multiplayer mode has a lot of potential but the latency is terrible if one person has a bad connection. The mechanics are poorly explained to players too. I havent won a single game as a survivor and have won every match as the mastermind. I wont deny I had fun but it needs work.
I know, and I no longer own RE2Remake.
That's why game devs have to think outside the box, instead of just making them a bullet sponge, change things up. Zombies in swat gear, zombies reappearing, etc...there are so many windows so it would be easy to say more zombies got in, even if it is just one after X event. I know they poured in towards the end but wasn't enough. It just made the zombies feel like nuisances than a real threat. The game needed more of a threat than the T man.
You are not alone, I got you. My favorite RE game. Not for that reason, but still.
I actually wonder how they would handle the Ashford's In a remake considering they're going for a more grounded direction. Grounded is a term I'm using loosely here but I think you get the idea.
I felt the same regarding zombies. Making them dangerous was a great change from the rest of the series, but they were damn annoying and cheap. The fact that people had to cheese shooting them in the legs to stun them but a shot in the head was a slot machine gamble didn't sit well with me. Don't even get me started on their ridiculous and magnetic grab animation that almost always draws and accurate beat on your ass.
Oh, I didn't know that. So there might be hope.
CV Alfred was the perfect kind of camp. He was a weirdo, everyone treated him as that, and yet he acted as if he was some kind of noble above everyone else.