I was expecting a bit more from RE2 as it is one of the most anticipated remakes of all time and gameplay-wise resembles more what RE has successfully been in the past few years before REVII.
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Resident Evil 2 (PS4/XB1/PC) shipped 3 million units worldwide on first week
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I was expecting a bit more from RE2 as it is one of the most anticipated remakes of all time and gameplay-wise resembles more what RE has successfully been in the past few years before REVII.
The direct comparison to RE7 is here with same number of days counted.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e170127.html
Those are still shipped numbers, so changes nothing for you apparently.
It's a more solid game and fuller package than RE7, and that's reflected in the 91 vs. 88 Metacritic score. I'm not sure how much of a driving factor that is in sales 3 days in, but it's good that Capcom is being rewarded for their efforts. Glad RE7 hit 6 million. Survival horror should be encouraged. And I'm not sure, but it seems like both RE7 and RE2 are outpacing RE5 and 6. They have a gargantuan head start and several re-releases and sales and bundles, but 7's only 2 million away.
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Capcom's financial reports allow us to track legs. For example, we know that Resident Evil 6 HD sold 1.5 million copies. It basically sells 100-200k every financial report. It didn't matter how many copies of RE4/5/6 HD were sent to retailers. What mattered is how many were sold. (They were also limited supply, I believe, with most sales being digital.) Capcom's financial reports are ambiguous about whether they're sell-in or sell-through and they're often fuzzy about physical/digital splits, but it doesn't matter once the initial sales period is over. If a game isn't selling, retailers aren't going to order new shipments. That's how you get games with seemingly strong initial "sales", but then they fall off.
You think EA's investors care about Battlefield V's likely incredibly high sell-in numbers? No. They care about its sell-through numbers. They care about all the unsold copies sitting on shelves.
RE7's initial shipped numbers were meaningless, though. The catch is always whether the game continues to sell since this proves the game is actually selling and not just sitting on shelves, and you track that by reading the financial reports. It's naive to compare initial sell-in figures to more initial sell-in figures. Dumping a few million copies of a game onto the market is something anyone can do. Of course it indicates confidence those copies will sell. But it doesn't PROVE those games will sell. A lot of people desperately want RE2 Remake to be a huge success, and they will prematurely embrace what is a fairly fluffy and ambiguous piece of PR.
Dude.... you really go that far just trying to downplay this game do you. Now we get to the point where we want to wait for legs number. Damn. ( and btw all those numbers you mention are ship number. Capcom never track sold through number, actually none of the company track sold through unless it is meaningful for them. I mean look at number 100k. That is not the total unit you sold to end customer. You can guess that right? ).
Premature embrace PR number? You basically insult everyone here in this thread.
Yeah, going back to the traditional RE-style was a risk for them given how big the action titles had become. But I also think they saw the writing on the wall in terms of budget. You aren't going to be making large setpiece games like RE6 on anything other than a massive budget. And while RE2R/RE7 certainly weren't cheap games to make, the style at least allowed Capcom to scale things down dramatically. They take place in much tighter and smaller places compared to the action trilogy.
It'd be awesome if these games did spark a revival in the traditional survival horror space. There's clearly a healthy market there for them. Although I imagine Capcom will be the primary one taking advantage of it. It's hard to imagine that EA would resurrect Dead Space, even though the original style of that game would be perfect. I know Toyama (Silent Hill/Siren creator) has expressed interest in returning to survival horror. And he'd certainly make something that's more in line with these RE games in terms of their slower pace.
When we're talking about strongly digital sales such as the RE4/5/6 trilogy, they may as well be. Further, notice how the original version of Resident Evil 6 increases by 100,000 every so often? (It's up to 7.2 million now.) (Also, good old Remember Me is up to 1.2 million now.) Those are not retail sell-in numbers. Retailers are not ordering new batches of Resident Evil 6 for Xbox 360 in 2019. The game hasn't had physical print runs for years. Yet the numbers keep climbing. They're digital numbers. Steam numbers. PSN/XBL, too. (But distinct from PS4/XBO.)
The key methods for determining RE2 Remake's sales health are:
Whether the game continues to chart physically. Physical may be declining year on year, but this a big one.
Comparing sales between initial shipment, first financial report, and second financial report. The ambiguity of sell-in diminishes with time.
SteamSpy figures if we can get them. Estimates, but useful. RE2 Remake seems to be selling particularly well on Steam looking at peak player numbers. This isn't necessarily reflected in console sales, however, and we should be wary.
I'm not insulting anyone. I'm simply pointing out a huge number of posters think this is a "huge success". They genuinely believe that the game has sold 3 million copies. But it hasn't. It's essentially meaningless in terms of actual game sales. This is nothing more than the initial shipment of physical copies sent to retailers paired with the digital sales. We have zero idea how many copies the game has sold at retail globally. We won't get a picture of the game's sales until other sources of data begin to fill in the gaps.
These types of games are not my cup of tea anymore sadly, and the original back in 98 WAS a fav of mine, but shipping 3m is a terrific figure! Long term should do really well.
Wow 3m shipped is impressive i was expecting less. Such an amazing game. Capcom deserves all the sales.
Kinda true. But if a game doesn't sell all that well, retailers can return them for a credit. It's how the biz works to ensure there's no crash. Shipped does not mean sold through and is a meaningless metric to trump in most cases.
This game will be fine.
I think it tells more about how people have more free time to jump in to play a game on launch day, if launch day is a Friday instead of a Tuesday. I mean, PC sales of RE2 are not 4 times as high as RE7.
Hopefully with the strong word of mouth and ongoing DLC support, in maybe 2 years it can join MHW as Capcom's second 10 million seller? Long shot, but it's a good target for Capcom to grow out of their not-quite modern AAA publisher status. The ceiling has risen for worldwide blockbusters and its nice to see Capcom trying to compete again after years of down time.
What the holy shit; is this true?! That's a mammoth development team, especially for Japan.
...don't include digital and are perfectly in line with a 20% increase sales compared to RE7. There is substantially more sales from digital than 2 years ago when RE7 was released.
That number is meaningless, it include outsourced devs, they could have outsourced a single location for a company with 300+ devs to work on for a month and they'd all count. Dev team size doesn't say much when you include outsourced developers numbers.
So happy for RE2's success. I wasn't feeling RE6 or RE7 for different reasons but this game has everything I love about Resident Evil.
Yes. It's quite surprising. Capcom themselves confirmed is.
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/11/20/resident-evil-2-remake-developers-800/
This whole article is very misleading, it's hard for anyone to play RE2 and RE6 and come up with the conclusion that RE2 was more expensive to make. It's not reflected in the content of the game and neither it is in Capcom's sales expectations. That's why using number of developers to gauge development cost is pointless when that number include outsourced development.
I've only played the demo so far. I don't really know if its budget was bigger or smaller than RE6. I'd like to think it was smaller. I'm happy the games is a success but I had bigger expectation especially after the big growth on PC.
Great numbers!! Definitely deserved after what they've done with the game.
Now keep the good work with R3make.
Now keep the good work with R3make.