Not on the list atm tbc.
Not on the list atm tbc.
I agree so much with you. The game has so many flaws, despite that i love it so much. Its highs are really high for me and overcome any of the misgivings i might have with it. And yes, Noctis is awesome.I am surprised that Final Fantasy XV is out so early but very happy that it made it so far into the rate. The game is incredibly charming and sunk me in deep - some of the best dungeon design in the series, gorgeous to look at, and filled with so many unique ideas. It is an oddball in the series, for sure, but I think it is a great one. Noctis ended up being one of my favorite protagonists in the series.
just realized Tokyo Mirage #FE hasn't shown its ugly head. Is it seriously going to be ranked over Tactics Ogre, Vagrant Story, Fire Emblem 2003, Kingdom Hearts and Oblivion???
I don't think it has managed to be on the list, as it also happens with FF XIII. If not it will be ultra shocking.
that would be awesome and the best case scenario but I doubt it didn't make it into the list, its small fanbase is extremely loud about it - would love to be wrong though
So it was In The top 300? That's still too high,
Looks like Lightning has to deal with it this time.
I actually think FFXV has a pretty good placement all things considered. I think it is "essential" in that it's worth playing to form your own opinion on, not to mention its historical importance and technical aspects. It may not be as good as some of the entries behind it, but I don't think that's the only factor we have to consider. For what it's worth I like the game a lot despite its flaws.
Also I think FFXII stands a chance at being on the list thanks to Zodiac Age hitting PC. I feel like it's the Final Fantasy that could most appeal to the CRPG crowd, too. I mean, Dragon Age Origins basically took the gambit system from it.
Imagine putting Kingdom Hearts in the top 100 list of essential RPG's of all time, imagine being that forum.
I would find a forum not including it to be more embarrassing than vice versa. A unique crossover with tons of charms and an overall solid game even with the camera issues. I would say it is definitely an essential experience, it's sequels though are not.Imagine putting Kingdom Hearts in the top 100 list of essential RPG's of all time, imagine being that forum.
Terranigma got robbed. And Fire Emblem above Secret of Mana is a tragedy.
just realized Tokyo Mirage #FE hasn't shown its ugly head. Is it seriously going to be ranked over Tactics Ogre, Vagrant Story, Fire Emblem 2003, Kingdom Hearts and Oblivion???
These games arent getting enough love in 2018. Im guessing Secret of Evermore, soul blazer and Illusion Gaia wont make the list sadly.Terranigma got robbed. And Fire Emblem above Secret of Mana is a tragedy.
Yeah I was a bit surprised to even see it this high. Very few people have actually played it I think. It deserves a higher spot for sure (top 20 easy), but considering the circumstances, it's pretty good.Terranigma has one of the highest barriers to entry on this list. If you are in North America, and are against emulation, no Terranigma for you.
Calm down, take a joke for once. No offense, but I thought my post was obviously not 100 % serious.What one that dares have an opinion?
You'd probably see this same result in just about every forum that doesn't cater to hardcore PC/W RPG fans.
Calm down, take a joke for once. No offense, but I thought my post was obviously not 100 % serious.
Exactly, it had an uphill battle. I'm quite proud that it charted this high to begin with.Terranigma has one of the highest barriers to entry on this list. If you are in North America, and are against emulation, no Terranigma for you.
I respect what Secret of Mana did, but might barely crack my personal SNES Top 30. I really like Seiken Densetsu 3 and especially Legend of Mana though. Those games are a lot more polished, and have way more flavour.Likely controversial opinion, but Secret of Mana wouldn't even make my SNES top 10. It's a good game but I was never really enamored with it or anything, and I've heard the sequel is better. FE7 is one of the most solid FE entries so its placement is well deserved.
I've never played or even looked at promotional images or videos of FFXV. Which is why I got confused at the description haha.
Like, Persona is Urban Fantasy, right? But then you call Pokémon R/S/E a Traditional RPG. That is kind of contemporary too when it comes to the setting?
No worries!Sorry about that. I just really dislike people being so dismissive of other people's opinions some times. Like the person preemptively complaining about Tokyo Mirage Sessions placing higher then something else.
It just gets grating and sometime it's honestly hard for me to tell who's joking or not.
Sorry about that.
You are absolutely right. It belongs much higher. Somewhere at the beginning of the OP.Ayyy XV made it. Could be higher (was expecting in the 50s), but still respectable nonetheless. Especially considering how vocal the hate for the game is on sites such as this. Wonder if next year's DLC will improve people's perception of the series.
You're right. Fire Emblem should be MUCH higher.
I know and agree. And those are tragedies too. But there is no definitive word on them not being on the list, so I will wait to be outraged about it. I will call it out once the list is finished. Someone has to stick up for these games and leave the conversation to the vocal minorities of SMT and TO fans.These games arent getting enough love in 2018. Im guessing Secret of Evermore, soul blazer and Illusion Gaia wont make the list sadly.
Secret of Mana is actually pretty high on my SNES list just because I played the game the first time three player almost all the way through, and the first two times I played it never played alone. An action RPG that was made to be multiplayer means it holds a special place in my heart. Seiken Densetsu 3 never coming west hurts it, and is why I never had the same experience playing it. Legend of Mana was so different than Secret that it really feels like a different series. I like it, just went into it with expectations that the game completely missed and as such view it much harsher than Secret.Exactly, it had an uphill battle. I'm quite proud that it charted this high to begin with.
I respect what Secret of Mana did, but might barely crack my personal SNES Top 30. I really like Seiken Densetsu 3 and especially Legend of Mana though. Those games are a lot more polished, and have way more flavour.
Era redeemed.Imagine putting Kingdom Hearts in the top 100 list of essential RPG's of all time, imagine being that forum.
I've been playing through it at the moment (I think I'm in the intermission between chapters 2 and 3) and I think it's okay so far. Great presentation as everything Atlus, but I'm disappointed at the town NPCs. They have nothing interesting to say.TMS#FE is better than every actual Fire Emblem game made to date COMBINED. True story.
Yakuza 0 is only ranked so low because people don't realize that it's an RPG.
So it's likely that 6-10, 12 and 14 will appear higher than 15. In which case that would leave 11,13 and 15 as the lowest ranking modern FF. Which seems fair.