It was a more serious and disturbing matter of course but there was a lot more unity between mods and the userbase back then to organise that sort of exodus. Things seem much more fractured and divided now.
All I can say now is try again and this time with real community ownership and transparency.
I mean, what are you wanting the result to be with the addressment? The sale is done. The staff, regardless of how they feel, have no way of changing that nor could have since Cerium was the sole owner. Aside from knowing the sale was happening ahead (at least on the admin end), they're in the same if not worse position than we are. And if you care to have any familiarity of the staff, you'd know many are certainly not okay with that content on that forum and likely under other ones in the moba umbrella.
Caught the edit while typing this on mobile, but figured why not finish the response since I'm sure it's not a unique thought in all this.
Which is meaningless because sparking a mass exodus from an entire community spanning multiple sub-communities isn't something one can do on a whim. Nor is there any desire to until the point where any of these concerns actually come to fruition.
Does it look like Exodus 2 is on the cards then?
I mean yes my circle-avatar sister, but being able to criticise our "partners" now like mmo-champion and sound a note of caution is really needed right now imho.
Nothing I said suggested I wanted to stop people voicing their concerns. I just don't think people should assume that trusting a corporation comes attached to a hope that this place stays largely as it is with regard to its treatment of sensitive topics.
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The bolded though surely is relevant; multiple sub-communities that posted actively on ERA already left which could have played a key role in why to sell now (projected decline in active members in-light of the volume of communities which already left resulting in a negative long-term outlook for the site valuation).
Sorry then, to me it sounded like "as long as nothing bad happens, why care?". I apologise.
You're assuming Era wasn't on an organic growth path already.
I'm not sure what you're saying against my point.
No need to apologise. If it wasn't obvious I care too. I'm not thrilled at the forum having a loose affiliation to another forum full of transphobes (a sentiment I imagine the staff shares) but then I'm still thankful that we have this forum that isn't, and that hopefully I won't have to pay said forum any mind as I go about being my queer self here.
Sure, the mods can say they won't let the site "x" all they want. Won't matter in a month when Moba revokes their privileges and hire new mods.
Please. Most people on this site didn't even notice most of the admin staff and pretty much all of the original mod staff were replaced. The communities that did notice have pretty much already jumped ship.
How much does a site like Neogaf / Resetera etc cost to set-up and run anyway?
The old site is still up and running. I highly doubt another exodus means resetera doesn't turn a profit. How do you think they are going to attract new users?
Weren't folks like Aeana, Bish and Duckroll only there as mods temporarily to help out in the beginnings? That's what I remember at least.
The goal of the exodus isn't to have the old site die, it's to find a new home outside it. Whether ResetEra would live beyond another hypothetical exodus is as immaterial to us as whether Neogaf lived after we left it.
You think companies are happy to wait 6,5 years to start making money on their investment? That is what $700K per year means on a $4,5 million takeover.
Lower yet I'd think. This site has a revenue of 700k with an 80% EBITDA, so 140k per year, 11.6k per month in costs. A smaller site would have smaller server tenancy costs I imagine.
That doesn't answer my question. Where does growth come from when registration is regulated to specific emails?
Isn't it more like $560K? So we are talking more like 8 years for them to just break even on this investment if things stay the way they are.
And you're making it sound as if all moderation staff was exchanged in one night without anyone noticing. It was gradual changing on the guard...
How does this makes my point wrong? Did any of those 20 mods complained about being pushed out the community? I don't have universal knowledge about everything that happens here you know.
I can imagine that one can scale their server costs over time... Like any "business" that relies on ad money and subscription costs.
I'm with you on that, and sorry I gave the impression otherwise. Your posts read as someone lookkng for a specific answer, so figured just ask.
