or he thought he'd make more money in the long run keeping it..
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or he thought he'd make more money in the long run keeping it..
I assume this has been asked and answered, but I don't see a threadmark for it and I don't have time to scan 49 pages... will the moderation policies remain similar? There have been a lot of allegations made against publishers/developers of games the new owner seems to be indirectly invested in. Will posts that are dismissive of those allegations still be as tightly moderated?
you are wrong, right to be forgotten embrace your work and stuff you did in public like videos etc, and that involves messages in a public board, its not a private messaging app so your comparison is not right, and even then the message app will delete your messages in their server but the other person will have it.It came up in a thread that was locked in the general forum, but...
GDPR's "right to erasure" / "right to be forgotten," is generally over personal, identifying information, and it is not blanket guarantee that everything that you've ever added to a site can be deleted. Particularly content on a forum like this, like post content, post history, and so on, would usually not fall under GDPR. If you've added personally identifiable information to posts, it *could* but as long as the website offers a way for you to manually remove that data, it's in compliance. So, for instance, if you posted 10,000 times, and one of those posts contained your name and email address, it's not up to the website owner to scour your 10,000 posts, but as long as the owner provides you the ability to edit the post and remove that information, then it's generally considered in compliance.
Private Messages are another issue, and GDPR usually does not cover private messages that you've sent to another person. So, for instance, if you've PMed someone your address for a buy/sell/trade, it's not up to the website owner to go in and scrub those buy/sell/trade PMs for you. Another factor around "personal identifying data" is if you posted something that you think is identifiable, you delete the post, but someone quotes your post before you edit it, those are individual cases and the right to erasure is "not absolute," so it might not qualify. If your name is part of your username and someone writes it in a post, "Hey JohnSmith123, that's a great video you posted," that usually will not qualify. Sometimes the site might scrub it for you if you're in good standing, but it's usually not blanket protecting like that.
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Nothing is changing on the moderation front. We still have full control of moderation policies.
Nothing changing. Era can continue and do what it wants.
I'm positive you'd see heavy pushback from staff if they were going to try to change policy.
I can all but 100% assure you that he's signed an NDA.
You're not going to hear anything anytime soon, if ever.
"Yes he was a misogynistic, creepy sex pest and transphobe BUT....."
c'mon man
Yeah, of course.
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Market cap is 846 million Swedish Kroner. Roughly $100mill if I'm looking at this right?
I guess the real question is whether or not the Admins ever had a share to begin with. It was implied at the beginning that Cerium was getting the tech worked out and floated some cash for the hosting and to get the site up and running, and the other Admins put in time hashing out the rules and bringing their communities over in an orderly fashion. I was under the impression that the Admins had a share in the IP from their time commitment even if they didn't have a monetary investment. If that was never the case, then it sucks, but in a way it's on them for not being more vocal about Cerium taking all of the financial credit for their hard work. If they did have "shares" and sold out, I guess that's on them as well. So yeah...I'm convinced that Cerium isn't the bad guy here, just disappointed that the founding community members let it consolidate so easily under one person.
We all know things will change quickly the moment moderation makes another community enter meltdown mode and then those users report them to MOBA and they see the lowered traffic/activity.
I mean, from what I remember is not like this forum is in a better place than it was when it started which is pretty sad.
I mean, from what I remember is not like this forum is in a better place than it was when it started which is pretty sad.
I see that many people quoted this message saying it is funny. Could someone please explain the joke?
Yeah….
I tried to summon my Persona. Even she can't rewind time.
That is a fair point, Neogafs height was probably pulling a million or more in revenue annually. Still, very few people would turn down $10 million. The ego is perhaps the more salient point.
People get excited/angry when, say, Microsoft buys Bethesda.
So it's ha HA, ya don't like THIS acquisition, do ya, chumps??
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Console warriors cheer when their favorite platform acquired a dev
A lot of great ideas being shared in that thread. It's crazy to see how many of those day 1 users are now banned. The fact that that thread was closed goes to show that this never was a community-led effort and the community had no real voice in the way the forum should be managed.
Even if they knew exactly how this would play out WRT the site blowing up financially, that doesn't mean they can't revisit the terms of their commitment to the site once it did. If the project grows, they should reevaluate what that means for compensation. Era is simply not the same thing that it was when these people volunteered.
Been on the internet for many a long year and seen how this always goes.
Volunteers usually don't get much say in how a corporation runs its business.
I have no doubt that there would be pushback, but let's not be naive about the reality of acquisitions and growth targets.
If their other sites are mostly dead then isn't it obvious, Era is consistent revenue and maybe they'll morph or expand it into something else like EraWow, EraCOD etc. and the forum just sort stays as it is or turns into a mega forum for every community and subject. I think the Era brand might be a thing.
Gonna be difficult for them to run a site without a staff
EDIT: and honestly, user pushback as well
Nahhh, not really worth my energy.
Of course! Just send in a ticket. We allow account deletions at any time. You can also request a ban if you just want some time away. Of course we don't want anyone to go!
But why continue doing it for free for a for profit company? This entire community is united in the "make sure you get paid" when it comes to labor as evidenced by the multiple threads over the years.
I can understand doing it under Cerium and help foster a new community with the new ideals after the migration. But now you're doing it for a multi million dollar company, and ultimately just making sure engagement levels are steady. Or by their wording in the announcement, going up.
I wish I had your optimism. Just saying it's not coming from a bad place, I've enjoyed it here but definitely can see how this usually ends...
I'm not going anywhere. I'm too familiarised with people in here to start over in a new place.
Don't you ever fucking ban me again tho. 👺
Don't you ever fucking ban me again tho. 👺
The minute we see an exodus of the moderating staff, the bulk of the user base will follow.
Been on the internet for many a long year and seen how this always goes.
Volunteers usually don't get much say in how a corporation runs its business.
Things have always been changing. The site has always had owners.
Of course the new owners can change something. It works both ways. They have no guarantee we will stick around if they fuck with the site too much.
We all know none of you guys ever expected any money, and I at least respect that. I think his post is more towards, this dude just banked 4.5m off that volunteer work. If you've got no qualms with that, cool that's just what I think he was asking
Less "did you want paid" more "are you still okay with that now that this just happened"
Off topic but I've always being curious. Are you the same Kamek from Vandal foros?
Seriously. You don't pay $4.5 million for an investment--and that is what ERA is to MOBA--and not exert at least some control. It is naive to think MOBA will be completely hands-off of a multi-million dollar investment.
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