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thewienke

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Oct 25, 2017
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Having just gone through a multi year acquisition professionally, I can tell you first hand that any plans & promiseses made during this period mean less than fuck-all. A shift in strategy, "business needs", and/or management and it all quickly goes out the window - which is almost a certainty, sooner or later.

Yeah I've been through an acquisition also and it's almost standard operating procedure to keep "business as usual" for about 6-12 months before changes are handed down gradually. I'd expect the same here since the expressed goal is to maximize profit.

Even if moderation/ads/etc. change, it won't impact me personally since I mostly just discuss nonsense and sports anyway.
 

Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
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Midgar, With Love
Yup. Till the staff say otherwise I don't see any reason to not trust them that ERA remains ERA. If/when changes come I'll look again.

My views on this too. I'm not jumping ship at some perceived boogey man in the distance.

Like, literally as a mod, I'm on that list. I have trust and faith that things aren't going to change. I believe it. If that faith proves misplaced, and the site transforms into something that it shouldn't be, I'll gladly step down. But right now, it's honestly quite a bit "business-as-usual" to me.
 

srtrestre

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Oct 25, 2017
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I do think is extremely hilarious that they managed to sell a graveyard at such a premium price

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No, but seriously, looking at these figures and thinking this place is moderated by unpaid staff makes me uncomfortable
Big YUUUUUP to both of these.

Glad I spend 90% of my time at Install Base and Famiboards nowadays. The best posters from SalesEra and NintendoEra moved there. They already feel more like home than Era ever did.
 

rochellepaws

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ireland
One of the most desirable parts of this forum is that for the most part moderation is good. There are very few places on the internet that will action even basic toxicity so as long as ResetERA still fosters healthy, mature discussion I'll continue to stick around.
Definitely agree, especially when you look at places like twitter, gamefaqs or certain other forums and the kind of sludge that has to be waded through for any kind of discussion. They do excellent work (mostly) for a forum of this size and it's encouraging to hear they all seem to have the same determination to continue despite what's happening with the site ownership.
 

fertygo

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Oct 25, 2017
8,565
Lol a company that does business with larger publishers and studios doesn't buy out a large-ish site for 4.5 mill and not expect to exert control over flow of information. First moment a partner isn't happy with how discussion and news generated to larger public outlets (because Era is often cited in news reports enough (this helped bolster a much larger buyout payment) you'll see a tighter leash exerted over discussion.
I mean you can see their other "site" theyre dead lmao

I can see this company thats operating in fund venture style that just buy shit.
 

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Uhhhhhh it was the second time it happened, NeoGAF wasn't the first lol

Well the first time was because of GA shutting down the forums, so the userbase just migrated itself to GAF. The second time was because EviLore fucked up, and there was a mass exodus, and a portion of the userbase came here. I don't see even 50% leaving here to go to a splinter board en masse like the other times. It's just not going to happen like that, unless MOBA does something really really stupid to generate that kind of exodus.
 

clay_ghost

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not a part of very many sub-communities here so maybe I'm not knowledgeable about some disputes that have happened, but yes I do seriously mean that. If anything I think they overcorrect some things that they maybe didn't need to go so hard on, but I can't think of another large forum that functions as well as ResetERA does largely in part due to its moderation team.

There are issues with sub-communities moderation for sure and for a lot of posters do not feel that their feedback have been fairly considered and left.

On a whole ERA is generally better than most places.
I will still be here for Sony/general threads. I think the Manga community thread is OK here too, man so many manga communities out there are disgusting.
 

GSG

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"No way, this can't be right"

:: opens safari, goes to website ::

"Yeah, I'm right it's not nearly this ba...."

oooh shit

I don't feel so bad about blocking ads on here now...

I always disable my Adblocker for websites I want to support, and Era was one of those but I had to enable it again because how bad some of these ads got.
 
Oct 25, 2017
21,452
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many of the posts here are a really quite hysterical. these kinds of ownership changes have happened to a lot of other forums and usually nothing changes in how the forum is run and managed. why would the new owners want to micromanage site administration and moderation, and risk alienating users in the process, when they already have people from the community volunteering their time to do administration, site policy and moderation?

people need to calm down lol
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
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Since it's come up a lot, I just wanted to mention that we did discuss this with MOBA Network and they were emphatic that they are not in the user data business and never will be. They're not going to sell your data. Nothing is going to change about how your data is handled and protected.
Again for those who missed it.
 

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Like, literally as a mod, I'm on that list. I have trust and faith that things aren't going to change. I believe it. If that faith proves misplaced, and the site transforms into something that it shouldn't be, I'll gladly step down. But right now, it's honestly quite a bit "business-as-usual" to me.

Just a Q, did you or any other mod get a heads up, and have any of the mods stepped down (not asking to name names)?
 

Zem

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Things won't change until they remove the create account email restriction, which I'm sure will happen soon. Then shit will hit the fan.
 

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I'm not a part of very many sub-communities here so maybe I'm not knowledgeable about some disputes that have happened, but yes I do seriously mean that. If anything I think they overcorrect some things that they maybe didn't need to go so hard on, but I can't think of another large forum that functions as well as ResetERA does largely in part due to its moderation team.
I don't really belong or belonged to any of the subcommunities, but i experienced 1st hand what can happen when you don't explain yourself well and mods just go ham on you joined by some people over here that like to reel you in towards bans. This is easily seen in the most sensitive subject threads, you say one thing and before you have any chance to explain yourself, you're getting the banned message. No point trying to explain it either, you're done for and after the ban most people can't be bothered to explain it.

Of course, unless you edit it out, some of these people that like to reel you in, will use your post history to get you banned if you post something that they don't like. That's my view on it and why i avoid sensitive subjects on this forum. I was fighting racism and misoginy in my teens, even before there was internet, at that time we did it because it felt right and not to earn forum points by getting other members banned.

I do understand it is a shit job though, have to go through everything and understanding concept, but they should at least have some members marked for reeling people in and try to acceess the situation before banning people.
 

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I have a question for the staff: if you feel like it's a good idea to ban discussions about a specific game or company that is very popular and could affect forum activity and/or is related to what other websites in the network promote, would you still be able to do that, now and in the future?

Not talking about a specific company, mind you, just wondering if you still have the ability to ban whatever game/company you want to, or are there considerations as part of the network.
 

Brinksman

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Not good honestly. It doesn't really make a difference what kind of promises and assurances this corporation's staff have made.

I agree that the moderation team should be provided a cut of the $4.5 million. They're mostly responsible for creating value.
 

B-Dubs

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I have a question for the staff: if you feel like it's a good idea to ban discussions about a specific game or company that is very popular and could affect forum activity and/or is related to what other websites in the network promote, would you still be able to do that, now and in the future?

Not talking about a specific company, mind you, just wondering if you still have the ability to ban whatever game/company you want to, or are there considerations as part of the network.
Yes. We make all the calls concerning moderation of this site and it's users and will continue to do so.
 

Hazardous

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really belong or belonged to any of the subcommunities, but i experienced 1st hand what can happen when you don't explain yourself well and mods just go ham on you joined by some people over here that like to reel you in towards bans. This is easily seen in the most sensitive subject threads, you say one thing and before you have any chance to explain yourself, you're getting the banned message. No point trying to explain it either, you're done for and after the ban most people can't be bothered to explain it.

Of course, unless you edit it out, some of these people that like to reel you in, will use your post history to get you banned if you post something that they don't like. That's my view on it and why i avoid sensitive subjects on this forum. I was fighting racism and misoginy in my teens, even before there was internet, at that time we did it because it felt right and not to earn forum points by getting other members banned.

I do understand it is a shit job though, have to go through everything and understanding concept, but they should at least have some members marked for reeling people in and try to acceess the situation before banning people.
Some of your grievances are what I meant when I said "overcorrect". I hear you and I have definitely seen stuff like that happen, I just on the whole think this place is better for rational discourse than 99% of the internet. Nothing is perfect but yeah.
 

Jeremy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I basically checked out after the Media Create fiasco last month, but this definitely feels like a nail in the coffin.

It's been a good run!
 

Mbolibombo

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Oct 29, 2017
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Selling HIGH
When place is at an all time LOW
Someone know's how to strike deals.

I'd be furious if I was working this place for free when the owner just got a HAUL for it's broken down car

I do think is extremely hilarious that they managed to sell a graveyard at such a premium price

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Also Nintendo Era which has moved to a brand new place as well.
 

Quinton

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Just a Q, did you or any other mod get a heads up, and have any of the mods stepped down (not asking to name names)?

Yup, we knew in advance! I don't want to word this like a shill or anything (though I'm not sure what I'd be shilling...) but Cerium did a great job of getting it out there to us ahead of time.

I'm honestly not sure if anybody stepped down! The team's so sizable, thank god, that it's legit possible not to notice. Though I'll add, that's proooobably something there's good reason for the team not to discuss (and not in a "we need to save face!!!!" way; it can just lead to weird sleuthing-around stuff from the rare members here who might try to invade personal spaces). But if anyone has stepped down, they're obvs at full liberty to say so publicly if they're still in the 'Cords. But again, dunno.
 

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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Things won't change until they remove the create account email restriction. Then shit will hit the fan.

Given that membership growth has been flat for basically two years now, I'm not really sure if the email restriction prevents bad actors from registering, but probably does prevent genuine new users from registering. I just know that if I was a casual videogame fan and found value in a thread here, if I went to register and it told me I have to use my *named corporate work email* I'd be like, no f'ing way.

I share a lot of opinions on the site that I wouldn't want my employer to know about, from anything ... complaints about my employer or maybe political opinions that might be considered too out there for the safe work culture stuff.

I've always assumed that if bad actors wanted to register and shit the place up, they've always been able to, but that the email restrictions would more likely block mundane new registrations. Early on, I get it, but these days I really wonder how much people care and if they care enough to shit on some isolated community they probably could get around it.

Philosophically, I've been against it because of equity/gatekeeping issues. Like, if you need a university, workplace, or some premium/non-standard email to register, it's a sort of middle class to upper middle class gatekeeping. And while "The country club" might want to be choosey with who registers, I've always thought that was out of step with the feelings of most people in the community, but because "It's the way neogaf worked..." we've preserved it.
 

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Mostly just lmao at the idea that a guy who owns a message board which basically runs itself with user content and unpaid volunteers, an internet message board that he is selling for $4.5MM in the year 2021, was apparently stressed out by this arrangement. Wow, talk about a difficult life. I'm sure making millions from selling a website was a really difficult decision. My sympathies.

Whatever. I've been a part of enough of these things and this is basically how it always goes. I'm not gonna delete my account or anything. I doubt there will be any massive immediate changes, just a slow death as people become inactive and then they'll sell it to someone else. What's kind of a bummer this time is it doesn't seem like there are really any other forums out there with this level of activity, or at least I'm not aware of them. That's kind of sad because discord and Reddit are just not the same. Oh well, maybe it's time to hang up my posting days if this is the beginning of the end for forums.
 

Streusel

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Dec 28, 2017
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Terrible. i like this forum mainly because you can't "like" posts and because at least gaming wise, it's not as much of an echo chamber as e.g. xboxera, famiboards, a lot of subreddits, etc. + the strict moderation and user limitation.
 

bud

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yup, we knew in advance! I don't want to word this like a shill or anything (though I'm not sure what I'd be shilling...) but Cerium did a great job of getting it out there to us ahead of time.

I'm honestly not sure if anybody stepped down! The team's so sizable, thank god, that it's legit possible not to notice. Though I'll add, that's proooobably something there's good reason for the team not to discuss (and not in a "we need to save face!!!!" way; it can just lead to weird sleuthing-around stuff from the rare members here who might try to invade personal spaces). But if anyone has stepped down, they're obvs at full liberty to say so publicly if they're still in the 'Cords. But again, dunno.


did you get compensated? if not, do you feel you should have been compensated?
 

Thorrgal

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Oct 26, 2017
12,316
We can change that email if you want. Paid emails are pretty much only for sign up. As long as you don't have like five posts and all of them somehow got warnings/bans, I'm happy to change it.

Well that would be huge for me because if suddenly my work email started getting any kind of non-work related emails I would be in trouble :/

How do I do that?
 

skullmuffins

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Oct 25, 2017
7,421
Things won't change until they remove the create account email restriction, which I'm sure will happen soon. Then shit will hit the fan.
the paid email account restriction is actually indefensible for a purportedly left-leaning community which wants to portray itself as welcoming and inclusive to the less privileged. there are alternative ways to limit trolls and spammers that don't lock out people who don't have a university/employer/ISP email address they can use.
 

clay_ghost

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Oct 25, 2017
3,368
ty for this.

if anyone can point me where the other eras have gone id appreciate it. famiboards seems to be another spot?

I will delete if its against TOS.

installbaseforum for Japan Sales/Sales

Xboxera for Xbox

famiboards for Nintendo

Not sure about others but i will only join a few and lurks in the others lol.


Sony is still on ERA lol
 

Pancakes R Us

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is all news to me.

When Era launched, wasn't one of the unique things about it that the site was being held in a trust and no-one would 'own' it? When did ownership come into play?
 
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