It is incredibly fraudulent for a community to suddenly care about the mod's well being after they just spent the last 4 years being the cause of their duress, yes. That's why this whole "pay the mods" spiel rings incredibly hollow. Showing concern for a group of people that yall consonantly shit on. Like you know how goofy that looks from the other side right? It gets even worse when you realize that pretty much no mod has gotten on here or off are advocating to be paid. So it is funny to hop on here and tell other people how they should feel about certain things. Yea, people should be paid for their labor, but if they don't give a shit why the fuck would I? lmaoo
And it is kinda funny that you're a retail worker and don't sympathize with what mods go through at all. Ironic in some ways really.
Also, here's another funny concept. Have yall considered that the mods don't want to paid? Cause ya know, makes this shit feel like a job when they got jobs.
Also another wild concept. Have yall considered that the reason only a singular has come in here is because of the way yall act in these situations? Shits so embarrassing to watch every time
As someone who had issues with staff various times, as you know, numerous times one of the most understandable explanations that's been given for why various things were handled as they were was that this being unpaid work causes problems. It means people obviously have to focus on their day jobs and so can only have moderation time cut into living their lives, and/or that they can't chime in on decisions until after that work. It means that they can't get people to join the staff because dealing with the shit that comes with the job, both on-site and from outside of it, is even more unappealing than it's always going to be. And so on.
This doesn't "feel like a job", it visibly is a job that wears on people. Even when I think someone's doing it in a way that frustrates me, I'd still rather they be paid for that work. And so why, after being shown that and told those problems, would anyone assume that it isn't a thing that would benefit the staff as a whole?
Honestly, it's not even really down to whether the current individual staff members think about being paid for the work they're doing today - because sure, the offer of being paid definitely changes your dynamic with the site, and there can be personal downsides to that - it's more that it's increasingly clear that they totally could have been paid
from the start (or at least close to it) and the way the staff works should have been designed around that, and everyone involved is worse off because that didn't happen.
(EDIT: Along those lines, I don't agree with the others saying this should shut down that explanation going forward. Because it's how it works regardless, each staff member wanting pay or not doesn't really change the fact that they're not, and it's not just an excuse from staff to say that it causes problems. This part's not really on the current staff, it's on how things were organized to begin with.)
I've got my qualms with the current staff but I don't think corporate-appointed mods would create any amount of goodwill with most marginalized people that left.
Yeah, for all my issues with the staff historically, a full swap with company hired people with no relation to the community or incentive to care about people is uhhhhh certainly not going to be better at all, lol.
