i wish the democrats were as good at attacking the right wing of their party as the republicans have been at attacking the furthest left of theirs
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Republican state senator in Nebraska accuses own party of enabling white supremacy, GOP response is astounding
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Senate seats are six year terms. He's only been elected once.
Good on him for calling it out. "Telling it like it is," as the Republicans are so fond of saying.
And there's nothing astounding about their response. It's expected. They're a shithole party full of racists, misogynists, homophobes, and everything in between.
And there's nothing astounding about their response. It's expected. They're a shithole party full of racists, misogynists, homophobes, and everything in between.
Is his claim false though? I'm pretty sure he's mostly stating facts.
Josh Hawley strikes me as an extremely sinister person with an unfortunately long life in politics ahead of him.
That response is admission of guilt. If you're going to accuse him of being a turncoat - don't do it over him calling out racism. What a bad look...
While I appreciate him for trying to fight the current climate in his party he's also kind of full of shit when he acts like Trump just emerged out of the ether. Trump is just the culmination of 4 decades of right wing propaganda so if you're a lifelong Republican you helped him happen, even if indirectly.
You'll need a Third, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Party. A Multi-party system works well in Western Democracies and will at least give people more options and (hopefully) get more voters engaged.
Sadly the First Past the Post/Winner takes all system prevents a Multi-party system from arising in the US.
He views white nationalism as the present and future of the Republican party and isn't afraid to be forthright about it. He advocates for it without the crassness of Trump. But instead makes intellectual arguments for it, and that is freaking scary.
He's a smart Trump.
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Nice! I remember for a time you were insistent to remain Republican. Hopefully Trump has shown enough people the realities of the Republican party that the election goes very well for Democrats next year.
I mean I voted for McCain, possibly Romney as well I don't remember, it wasn't that long ago I was Republican myself.
People normally don't go out of their way to admit they were terrible and you shouldn't expect them to.
This Republican is a potential ally and you're not going to get a better one from the GOP in the near future.
Being smart is more important than being right in these situations and the smart thing to do is to unite againt the current administration.
a republican senator acts moderately and decries bigotry within the party, imploring everyone to be better
the GOP: "lol fuck off you lib"
the GOP: "lol fuck off you lib"
it's come to the point that anyone decent left will either be purged or too disgusted to stick around, all while the race to the bottom nativists pretend to be the voice of non-partisan reason of course. this all started back with sarah palin and the tea party I swear
Why does everyone keep saying that this press release is some admission of guilt? It clearly claims his statement as false along with telling him to switch parties because of his other liberal views.
I'm not defending the Republican party, but I feel like everyone is barking up the wrong tree here. Read the release before jumping on the bandwagon. There are better fights elsewhere and focusing on this by misrepresenting it can only do more damage to the left.
I'm not defending the Republican party, but I feel like everyone is barking up the wrong tree here. Read the release before jumping on the bandwagon. There are better fights elsewhere and focusing on this by misrepresenting it can only do more damage to the left.
This. I'm not gonna praise this guy. He's staying in the party, he probably voted for Trump. Probably will again if he's a "lifelong Republican". He probably supports all the shitty policies of the GOP including anti-abortion, stacking the Supreme Court with rapists, anti-LGBT and anti-immigration police states. The problem with people like this is just that Trump is too loud with his rhetoric, not the rhetoric itself.
If you are still a Republican today, voting for ANY Republican you are very much complicit. There are no "good" Republicans.
It's kinda scary how racist/easily brainwashed half of america is when it's easier to win elections as a racist than a moderate.
Like, I have always thought if the republican party pivoted and was about fiscal responsibility, but was more tolerant and liberal on some social issues, they would win a super majority all the time.
Now it's becoming increasingly clear that they have figured out that you can stoke fear and hate to win.
Like, I have always thought if the republican party pivoted and was about fiscal responsibility, but was more tolerant and liberal on some social issues, they would win a super majority all the time.
Now it's becoming increasingly clear that they have figured out that you can stoke fear and hate to win.
Absolutely.
Trump's presidency is a direct result of the never ending racist rhetoric from the GOP and the majority of conservatives during Obama's 8 years. Not to mention the decades of Republicans running on a racist platform leading up to that.
FUCK. THEM.
There is only a reference to "false statements" without laying out what is false about them or any defense of their actions, preceded by a smearing of the man's voting record saying he must be a liberal Democrat.
That's a pretty weak attempt to refute anything he says.
As to those saying we shouldn't ever forgive the guy, I'm incredibly confused looking at his voting record as well as just Nebraska politics in general. He has not voted along party lines all that consistently, and the guy he replaced has switched between Republican and Democrat a few times and is now a Democrat. I'm just gonna admit to knowing nothing about Nebraska politics or its voters.
But you have a republican senator who is the subject of this thread who obviously isn't a racist. Please stop painting all people with such a wide brush.
Tell the people that Trump targets that there is a HUGE difference between somebody that voted for Trump because of racism and somebody that voted for Trump that decided other issues were more important than racism and were ok if it happened, knowing it would.
He enables it with his vote. He's a racist. He can leave the party if he doesn't want to be thought of as one.
Plus a large percentage of the other half who don't do anything about it or don't even care enough to vote. It adds up to hundred of millions of americans who enable racism.
Cycle will just repeat it's self, since people like this Senator don't see anything inherently wrong with the Republican Party and conservatism in America. It's exclusively built around systematic racism, xenophobia, anti-feminism, GUNZ, climate denial, and propping up the rich/corporations at any cost. In my lifetime I've rarely seen the Republican Party do ANYTHING that wasn't built around those core tenants. They are a cancer and literally do nothing positive for this nation.
If you are a Republican you are the reason this country fucking sucks.
This is the definition of party over country. Someone in your party not falling in line? Call them out and call them names, in this case - a democrat.....
I hate the GOP.
I hate the GOP.
Nothing wrong with what you've said here.
As a foreign observer to all this, I'm waiting for objective conversation between the Republicans and Democrats, but it seems that the Republicans can't even discuss issues between themselves... As for the Democrats, I am waiting for a unique selling point from them, rather than just being the anti-discrimination party.
I'm guessing that you've read his recent speed at the National Conservatism Conference. It echos what you're saying here. There are dog whistles in there so finely crafted that they actually almost get you believing that he cares about everyone in America.
Almost.
This is fucking insane
GOP is a hijacked domestic terrorist organization
Can we send all these complicit fucks back to the muck in 2020 please and thank you
A lot of democrats here seem to be unsatisfied with merely defeating the GOP in 2020 and instead believe that obliterating them is the only acceptable outcome.
Please remember that Hillary lost in no small part because of a similar mindset.
Please remember that Hillary lost in no small part because of a similar mindset.
The guy literally put his career on the line to call out the racism seething through his party. The dude is a republican but he's not a racist. Stop moving to a whatabout type argument and see that painting all republicans as one thing or democrats as another is a toxic and un-constructive addition to the conversation.
While it's great that he's pushing back against his conditioning, it doesn't erase the generations and generations of the Republican party making it a point to push legislation that harms the disenfranchised and block efforts to progress the nation and promote equality. The party wasn't a neutral blank slate when this senator chose to identify as a Republican and participate in pushing their politics. The goals of the Republican party as a political group out to maintain oppression were crystal clear back when his parents were in diapers. How he personally wants to identity is separate from the actions he chooses to be a part of as a republican politician. I hope he changes but 90% of his coworkers take donations from the NRA to create the political and social environment where bigots can get guns and slaughter their "enemies". Addressing that shit is putting his career on the line. This is just the bare minimum.
It's also a completely pointless conversation because for every one person like this in the party, there are 9 that aren't. Look at polling. 90% of the party support Trump and all he does.
So I WILL generalize the party. Do you want me to admit this guy is perhaps less racially motivated in their vote than most of the party? Sure, I'll give him that. He's still an enabler until he stops voting for it.
He wants the party to change, but, it won't, and he'll vote for the party again. And guess what, in typical Republican fashion he'll either retire or recant all of this in the near future because we have example after example of exactly that happening.
Tell me one good policy that's come out of the Republican Party.
The party is built around hurting others and the planet. Republicans are inherently doing the wrong thing and have been for decades.
To be fair he is a bit late to the party here
Trump was openly awful even before the campaign announcement with the damn birther conspiracy
Its truly amazing how much was tolerable to these courageous moderates before they finally broke
Right and the Republican party has always behaved in racist ways. The difference is, Trump is bringing it out in the open as opposed to letting them do the dirty work behind the scenes.
This guy might not think of himself as a racist, hell most of White America doesn't, but, you can bet your ass they'll keep voting for it. They want to go back to the more dog whistle Republican days, where they can hurt Minorities and say it's because of taxes, and not the color of their skin.
He's a moderate member of a long time bigoted party that is heading into straight up hatred at breakneck speed. This is like saying they were only soldiers fighting for the Nazis and not actually murderous bigots themselves.
Their platform is literally about bigotry, funneling money to top percent,tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies, guns for all, keep the Muslims and other brown people out, fuck the LGBT community, fuck PoC and has been low key white nationalism for decades. That's their basic platform, what exactly is worth saving there? And why exactly is the democrats onus to save them? Why is everything put on the Dems shoulders?
What does it cost you to extend an olive branch to people like him besides your pride?
What are you afraid might happen?
I don't want an olive branch from someone only speaking up now. We needed an olive branch a few decades ago. Now it's just pissing and moaning that your party is to openly bigoted after decades of being deceptively bigoted.
Because Dems want to change the outcome in the next ellection. Hopefully without starting a civil war.
I don't know, maybe ask Obama? He tried working with these assholes his whole presidency and every time he did they stabbed him in the back.
Because it's easier than accepting that some friends, family, and a large percentage of people in this country are full fledged fascists.