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devSin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,195
It's 5 days basically RIGHT now. Usually the turn around on a PCR test is minimum 24 hours and probably more like 48.
She became symptomatic, and a rapid test administered today returned a positive result.

She does not yet have the results of a PCR test.

She is among those who received the initial dose of the Pfizer vaccine.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,356
This is infuriating.

I just hope having a partial vaccine would mean her viral load is lesser and she can fight it off more easily than if she hadn't been vaccinated? I know it doesn't usually work this way, but I thought I read something about reduced viral load resulting in milder symptoms somewhere...
 

Parch

Member
Nov 6, 2017
7,980
Also people are forgetting that at least with the Pfizer vaccine it was only shown to be 95% for reducing severe disease, not testing positive.
Yeah, I'm no expert, but the vaccine isn't some magic cloak of invulnerability. I thought it protects against severe symptoms, but it doesn't prevent catching it, testing positive and spreading the virus.
 

LOLDSFAN

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,037
Do we have data about how effective 1 dose is at reducing severe infections that might need treatment in a hospital?

Hopefully even at 1 dose, most don't get sick enough to need treatment in a hospital.
Not enough data I think:

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www.fda.gov

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Frequently Asked Questions

Frequently asked questions on the emergency use authorization of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
I thought first dose was around 60-80 percent effective if you were around the time of getting the 2nd dose, ie 3 weeks out

I could be wrong though
Hm looking into that, I found this article. Somewhat matches up with what you said.

www.wbur.org

A Single Vaccine Dose Appears To Protect Against COVID-19. So Why Are We Giving Two?

The question "is a really difficult moral and scientific one," says Harvard epidemiologist, Barry Bloom. And finding the right answer may depend on research that has yet to be done.

The right answer, in other words, depends on science we haven't yet completed. For one, the protection from a single dose of Pfizer's vaccine hasn't been definitively tested. Scientists can only infer from the trial data that Pfizer's vaccine would provide protective antibodies to roughly half of people who get one dose.

But Dr. Chris Gill, an infectious disease specialist at Boston University, points out that a single injection of Pfizer's vaccine may be even more effective than this estimate suggests. Looking at data from a smaller window between the time the first injection should have started working and before the second injection kicked in, Gill says the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may have an efficacy rate as high as 80 or 90% with just a single dose.

Moderna actually collected data from people who only received one dose of its vaccine, Gill says. Some 2,000 participants in Moderna's phase three clinical trial received just a single injection of either a placebo or the vaccine. In that population, the efficacy of the single vaccine dose was roughly 80 to 90%.

"[Moderna] was not shy about showing that a single dose was so effective, and they do the math right," Gill says. "After 14 days, the [single dose] vaccine is remarkably effective."
 

Hollywood Duo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
41,939
Yeah, I'm no expert, but the vaccine isn't some magic cloak of invulnerability. I thought it protects against severe symptoms, but it doesn't prevent catching it, testing positive and spreading the virus.
It also isn't effective the second you get the shot. Although I have no idea when she got her first dose.
 

colorblindmode

Chicken Chaser
Member
Nov 26, 2019
2,565
South Carolina
Why do this behind closed doors? I mean I get doing it on tv and at rallies cuz of the obvious reasons but why pretend to believe the bullshit they spew to their followers in private behind closed doors? Aren't these republicans more informed than the average insurrectionist?

Representatives do not have to be intelligent. In fact, many of them are actively morons. Take the Colorado rep for example.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,185
Incredibly dumb of her if what AOC is true.
What a terrible and pointless idea.
Omar should just quit America and move north already

www.ctvnews.ca

Politicians not prioritized for early COVID-19 vaccine doses

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and other political leaders of all levels will be waiting their turn to receive a COVID-19 vaccine like most other Canadians.

"We have really based our priorities on burden of illness, so people who have died most of the disease or have been most touched with complications, and frontline health-care workers, as well as Indigenous communities and remote communities. Political leaders are not part of these groups," said Dr. Caroline Quach-Thanh, chair of the National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) in an interview on CTV's Question Period.
"When there's a time for healthy people in their 40s to get their vaccine, when it's our turn, I will be as close to the front of that line as I can get," Trudeau told CP24 television. "I am super enthusiastic about getting vaccines, and I certainly want to show people that they're safe and that we trust our doctors, but there's a lot of vulnerable people who need to get these vaccines much quicker than I will, and we're going to make sure that they get it first, because that's the priority."

The impression I get is that Americans trust their government,and vaccines generally, a lot less so that's at least one reason why the government wants to show their leaders getting vaccinated.
 
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The Boat

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,871
Omar should just quit America and move north already

www.ctvnews.ca

Politicians not prioritized for early COVID-19 vaccine doses

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and other political leaders of all levels will be waiting their turn to receive a COVID-19 vaccine like most other Canadians.




The impression I get is that Americans trust their government,and vaccines generally, a lot less so that's at least one reason why the government wants to show their leaders getting vaccinated.
Yeah, I think leading by example and showing the vaccine is safe is that's the most important effect of having political leaders get the vaccine early.
 
Oct 28, 2017
22,596
Imagine surviving cancer only to die because some shithead republicans didn't want to wear a mask.

Hopefully she continues to have a moderate reaction.
 

CopyOfACopy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,043
how is it not a requirement for everyone entering a government building to be wearing a mask?

ive been working in a goddamn warehouse during the entire pandemic and been required to wear a mask just to enter the building
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,185
The two shots she would have gotten isn't going to really make difference at all. She should have gotten vaccinated.
It's a principled stance, consistent with how Omar operates. She probably loathes the implication of young, healthy congresspeople being prioritized before millions of genuinely vulnerable Americans, regardless of the optics of congresspeople demonstrating the safety of the vaccine.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
Incredibly dumb of her if what AOC is true.
Her political instincts have never been what I'd call the best.

It's a principled stance, consistent with how Omar operates. She probably loathes the implication of young, healthy congresspeople being prioritized before millions of genuinely vulnerable Americans, regardless of the optics of congresspeople demonstrating the safety of the vaccine.
One can be principled to a fault.... this is such a case
 

Peebs

Alt-Account
Banned
Dec 16, 2020
119
Should have told them to mask up or take their chances with the rioters.
 

RagnarokX

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,776
Why do this behind closed doors? I mean I get doing it on tv and at rallies cuz of the obvious reasons but why pretend to believe the bullshit they spew to their followers in private behind closed doors? Aren't these republicans more informed than the average insurrectionist?
If they wore a mask when the terrorists broke in the terrorists might mistake them for a liberal and hang them.
 

Super Moorad

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Jul 26, 2018
95
Isn't it amazing how in a thread about fuckers not wearing a mask and potentially being responsible for contaminating a 75 years old person, we have people trying to derail it with Ilhan Omar something something
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,185
Her political instincts have never been what I'd call the best.


One can be principled to a fault.... this is such a case
I'm glad Canada is prioritizing those in need. This might manifest as an active bias and possibly influence how I perceive Omar's decision here. Accordingly, unable to evaluate Omar's actions and political acumen objectively, I will remove myself from the conversation.
 

Afrikan

Member
Oct 28, 2017
16,980
Isn't it amazing how in a thread about fuckers not wearing a mask and potentially being responsible for contaminating a 75 years old person, we have people trying to derail it with Ilhan Omar something something

And not just her.. could be many more that were in that room. Covid is not picky.

I hope everything turns out ok. 😕
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
I'm glad Canada is prioritizing those in need. This might manifest as an active bias and possibly influence how I perceive Omar's decision here. Accordingly, unable to evaluate Omar's actions and political acumen objectively, I will remove myself from the conversation.

I think Canada is a bit different because mostly all our elected officials are taking it seriously.... and thus taking appropriate percautions

While the Republicans have a bunch of people ready to commit bio terrorism
 

ryan13ts

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,102
Hopefully she'll be ok. From the timeline of her having the test though, it almost seems like she had it before, though that definitely doesn't rule out that one of those maskless idiots (And I just know it was a Republican) she sheltered with caused it.
 
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Rocwell

Banned
Dec 3, 2020
76
Reminder that Baked Alaska was covid positive at the riot and was pretending to call people on Pelosi's phone. They better have sent a hazmat team through the offices, this had to be a superspreader event, people were packed in those halls screaming and chanting without masks on for hours on end.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
Now that I look at it I see why someone might see of part of that as a slur, though that couldn't be further from my intention. Fixed either way though.
I mean thanks for fixing it but it is a slut not can be seen as one, just so ya know for next time, but appreciate you removing it without drama :)