Just heard about this on the Bombcast. It sounds super interesting. Does the Dark Souls comparison hold up? What would be a good third person shooter to compare it to?
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Remnant From The Ashes |OT| A New Soul Rises From The Ashes
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Specifically in this case, yes. But the shroud also had it's minions during that fight as well, though they weren't a problem and were barely noticeable most of the time. I assume later fights are going to have the same. The instant death (or stagger followed by death) caused by the exploders In Gorefist's fight just completely takes me out of the flow of things. Again, if it weren't for the fact that they just show up behind me every time, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But it's already hard enough to keep an eye on more than two enemies at once. Having the boss and up to three of these exploding enemies to keep track of at once becomes incredibly annoying.
Really on the fence about getting this, but I guess it's best to wait til the issues are ironed out? Any word on how this runs on a base PS4?
Currently on one atm. Early game seems to run just fine but no idea about the later stuff yet. Haven't hit any choppy frame rate or anything of that nature on either run so far.
Part of it comes from the RNG affix of the boss. Some people find Shroud + adds insanely hard, others kill him in 35 seconds. For Gorefist, he is very easy to avoid without adds (just walk to his right anytime he Naruto runs at you with his sword). The Spores are there to distract you, but at even level, they should die in 1 Hunting Rifle shot or 3 Repeater Pistol shots. The Spores also pick a location away from you, and if your back is to the wall (or near one) they aren't going to spawn behind you... HOWEVER, when you are in the fight out in the open and turning around a lot, it's very easy to get them from behind.
Of course, I'm not saying adds are good or bad, just that we did tune them to be manageable and they have both logic to prevent certain things from happening (actually spawning behind you if you are near a wall, for example) and hp values to have a specific time-to-kill with every weapon. They are also on a timer, so eventually you can (hopefully) count on when they will show up next and use that time to beast the boss, then get in position for when the spores come.
Let me know if you find any of this to be true or not and I can run some more tests to make sure everything is working as advertised. If it isn't, we can certainly make some changes!
Thanks for the feedback!
It's interesting to me seeing the reactions about adds and how hard/annoying they can be in boss fights. I have not really played many soulsborne games, just DS3 for about quarter of the campaign. I have been loving the game so far and while it can be challenging at times I feel most situations I am to blame for my death.
I've been playing coop mostly and my friends tend to get downed often as they don't dodge well or understand all the available mechanics. For me they act as distraction at times heh.
The adds in boss fights can be annoying but it makes sense why they are there and rarely do I feel it is impossible. Once you get the timing down on the boss attacks and how the adds spawn and swarm, it is just a matter of avoiding and shooting when possible.
I've been playing coop mostly and my friends tend to get downed often as they don't dodge well or understand all the available mechanics. For me they act as distraction at times heh.
The adds in boss fights can be annoying but it makes sense why they are there and rarely do I feel it is impossible. Once you get the timing down on the boss attacks and how the adds spawn and swarm, it is just a matter of avoiding and shooting when possible.
They have glowing parts in the mouth when they start to load that attack, shoot it and it explodes and cancels the attack. You need to shoot both.
I can barely stop one with my strongest attack...is that the only way to avoid damage?
Thanks for the quick response!
I can definitely see how Gorefist in particular benefits from having something extra to distract you, as like you said, his actual moveset is very easy to get around. However, I tried every approach I could come up with to test out how the spores kept getting behind me and I caught glimpses of them dropping down on me from above when I had my back to the wall, still managing to get into blind spots by doing that.
Trying to fight up on the catwalks ended up being the way I beat him, but that set me up for getting pincered between the boss, a spore that would run in from behind him, and one that would come in from behind me consistently. They were going down in two or three repeater shots, like you said, but it ultimately just became more effective to let them get close enough to detonate and then roll away as the did; assuming I knew they were there before they blew up.
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Is there an option to hide the HUD outside of battles or make it contextual sensitive? Worried about my OLED :(
Best game I've played all year. Depending on post-launch content, I could be playing this till next gen.
As far as I know, you can also pop Bloodvial before the attack to mitigate some of it.
How is performance on the PS4 version, specifically on Pro? Apologies if already answered, haven't had time to read the entire thread!
Thank you. Until then i'll just grind the swamp cause I have no solid tactic for The Undying King and im out of ideas to tackle this in Solo. Love the game though and I hope you guys can make it like Semi-warframe where new story bits get added and new worlds. Even if through small paid expansions.
It really is a great title and enjoy the lore / world as it is something unique. Also really thanks for answering all these questions of ours - i'll be writing up a review once the MM has been fixed just to get a clear picture of how co-op is and its difficulties etc
The adds are part of the boss design. They make the player move, they change your focus from single mindedly shooting the boss and they provide ammo drops + mod energy and (most importantly) they proc the effects where you need to "kill an enemy" during a boss fight.
For example if bosses didn't have adds, then my +25% for 5 seconds after kill and my +3% damage per ranged kill for 5 seconds (stacks up to 5 times) LITERALLY would be useless. Like,I'd have to unequip them and have a different "boss set".
Somehow this game flew under my radar but it seems interesting. I might pick up a few copies for me and a couple of friends. Does the game have microtransactions, in app purchases and stuff like that or is it mostly ok? The thread has 34 pages already and I'm apparently bad at using the search function because I could only find something about a preorder dlc.
There is nothing outside the initial purchase that you can spend money on.
Still asking does anyone else have matchmaking issues on the xbox? Can not find anything about it online. I cant join a match, keeps saying trying to find joinable match.
Issue still there. Will be sorted by next patch according to Dev
Frame rate is fine so far but stick deadzones/input latency is not great.
Ah so it is a bug, thank you. I am having no problem playing solo and i love the more challenging bosses, but wanted to try online and see how that works.
Yeah I can't agree with that, I been playing until the 3rd zone solo on hard and started another playthrough with 2 friends also on hard ...
Brabus probably took us longer that most bosses I did solo up till then 4-5 adds plus the boss himself nearly oneshooting everyone with his shotgun
It's ok. 30 fps with some minor drops. Atleast from what i experienced so far.
Oh my god that is so not true. Bosses are still plenty hard in multiplayer, and while sections between bosses are not super hard, my friend and I still took plenty of damage in places where we were just overwhelmed.
Just my personal feelings and experience when trying co-op with my friends.
All of us decided to play through the game solo after trying co-op.
We'll team up (maybe) for future playthrough.
The game is hard for someone bad at games like me, but I love the mechanics and the story so far. Having a great time and can't wait for a few friends to pick it up for coop fun.
oh come on its been one day since global release. ONE day. besides playing in multiplayer makes the game so much more accessible
what i dont understand about that gorefist fest is that you dont even need to shoot at the adds to kill them. let them come close to you and dodge while they're flashing red if you find that managing them is too stressful or something
Just spam the dodge button, Worked for me every time!
You can even start dodging after you start taking damage.
out of curiosity, you don't have the magnum ?
magnum + assault rifle kinda is the best option in there as long as you don't have the beam rifle
I got the beam rifle (radiation) in some ruins. Is just me or it feels a little broken?
I know. I don't want an easy mode at all for myself.
But looking at so many comments over the weekend, people seem to just not be good at the game and so an easy mode would help them.