Just heard about this on the Bombcast. It sounds super interesting. Does the Dark Souls comparison hold up? What would be a good third person shooter to compare it to?
I really want to like this game, and there's certain aspects of it that I love. But the endlessly spawning adds in boss fights, particularly when they consistently spawn behind you no matter where you are in the arena, is really killing any drive I have to keep going. Particularly when those enemies are self-destructing assholes who spawn in pairs/trios leading to an instant death if both go off near you at once... The boss fights themselves seem like they'd be fun enough. Why have the adds? Or why not a limited number of adds instead of the constant stream?
Specifically in this case, yes. But the shroud also had it's minions during that fight as well, though they weren't a problem and were barely noticeable most of the time. I assume later fights are going to have the same. The instant death (or stagger followed by death) caused by the exploders In Gorefist's fight just completely takes me out of the flow of things. Again, if it weren't for the fact that they just show up behind me every time, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But it's already hard enough to keep an eye on more than two enemies at once. Having the boss and up to three of these exploding enemies to keep track of at once becomes incredibly annoying.
Currently on one atm. Early game seems to run just fine but no idea about the later stuff yet. Haven't hit any choppy frame rate or anything of that nature on either run so far.Really on the fence about getting this, but I guess it's best to wait til the issues are ironed out? Any word on how this runs on a base PS4?
Specifically in this case, yes. But the shroud also had it's minions during that fight as well, though they weren't a problem and were barely noticeable most of the time. I assume later fights are going to have the same. The instant death (or stagger followed by death) caused by the exploders In Gorefist's fight just completely takes me out of the flow of things. Again, if it weren't for the fact that they just show up behind me every time, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But it's already hard enough to keep an eye on more than two enemies at once. Having the boss and up to three of these exploding enemies to keep track of at once becomes incredibly annoying.
I ask again,some advice for the double boss in the swamp area?
How can i avoid the double scream? It's impossible to do enough damage to both in that short period of time to make them stop, i'm missing something
I can barely stop one with my strongest attack...is that the only way to avoid damage?They have glowing parts in the mouth when they start to load that attack, shoot it and it explodes and cancels the attack. You need to shoot both.
Thanks for the quick response!Part of it comes from the RNG affix of the boss. Some people find Shroud + adds insanely hard, others kill him in 35 seconds. For Gorefist, he is very easy to avoid without adds (just walk to his right anytime he Naruto runs at you with his sword). The Spores are there to distract you, but at even level, they should die in 1 Hunting Rifle shot or 3 Repeater Pistol shots. The Spores also pick a location away from you, and if your back is to the wall (or near one) they aren't going to spawn behind you... HOWEVER, when you are in the fight out in the open and turning around a lot, it's very easy to get them from behind.
Of course, I'm not saying adds are good or bad, just that we did tune them to be manageable and they have both logic to prevent certain things from happening (actually spawning behind you if you are near a wall, for example) and hp values to have a specific time-to-kill with every weapon. They are also on a timer, so eventually you can (hopefully) count on when they will show up next and use that time to beast the boss, then get in position for when the spores come.
Let me know if you find any of this to be true or not and I can run some more tests to make sure everything is working as advertised. If it isn't, we can certainly make some changes!
Thanks for the feedback!
As far as I know, you can also pop Bloodvial before the attack to mitigate some of it.I can barely stop one with my strongest attack...is that the only way to avoid damage?
Shoot the weakspotI ask again,some advice for the double boss in the swamp area?
How can i avoid the double scream? It's impossible to do enough damage to both in that short period of time to make them stop, i'm missing something
Thank you. Until then i'll just grind the swamp cause I have no solid tactic for The Undying King and im out of ideas to tackle this in Solo. Love the game though and I hope you guys can make it like Semi-warframe where new story bits get added and new worlds. Even if through small paid expansions.I believe the bug has been nailed down but we have to run it through test and the submission progress. Coming real soon, though!
The adds are part of the boss design. They make the player move, they change your focus from single mindedly shooting the boss and they provide ammo drops + mod energy and (most importantly) they proc the effects where you need to "kill an enemy" during a boss fight.The addition of adds at lower levels is a real annoyance. Just tone them down for easier difficulties and when people have geared up for Hard etc, then start adding them in as another challenge.
There is nothing outside the initial purchase that you can spend money on.Somehow this game flew under my radar but it seems interesting. I might pick up a few copies for me and a couple of friends. Does the game have microtransactions, in app purchases and stuff like that or is it mostly ok? The thread has 34 pages already and I'm apparently bad at using the search function because I could only find something about a preorder dlc.
Issue still there. Will be sorted by next patch according to DevStill asking does anyone else have matchmaking issues on the xbox? Can not find anything about it online. I cant join a match, keeps saying trying to find joinable match.
Really on the fence about getting this, but I guess it's best to wait til the issues are ironed out? Any word on how this runs on a base PS4?
Issue still there. Will be sorted by next patch according to Dev
I kinda feel a little sad for the people who do their first playthrough co-op.
I personally feel the game loses a LOT of the tension and fun in co-op. There's basically no real challenge anymore if you got 2 or even 3 people.
How is performance on the PS4 version, specifically on Pro? Apologies if already answered, haven't had time to read the entire thread!
Oh my god that is so not true. Bosses are still plenty hard in multiplayer, and while sections between bosses are not super hard, my friend and I still took plenty of damage in places where we were just overwhelmed.I kinda feel a little sad for the people who do their first playthrough co-op.
I personally feel the game loses a LOT of the tension and fun in co-op. There's basically no real challenge anymore if you got 2 or even 3 people.
Just my personal feelings and experience when trying co-op with my friends.Oh my god that is so not true. Bosses are still plenty hard in multiplayer, and while sections between bosses are not super hard, my friend and I still took plenty of damage in places where we were just overwhelmed.
Currently on one atm. Early game seems to run just fine but no idea about the later stuff yet. Haven't hit any choppy frame rate or anything of that nature on either run so far.
Frame rate is fine so far but stick deadzones/input latency is not great.
Reading this thread and the constant complaints people have, I think you guys might need to add an Easy Mode that gives like 50% buffed stats to the player or something tragic
Might allow some people to actually beat the game.
Just spam the dodge button, Worked for me every time!I can barely stop one with my strongest attack...is that the only way to avoid damage?
finally beated the swamp final boss after an entire morning of trying...
i hope his craftable weapon is good or i'm gonna be furious...
out of curiosity, you don't have the magnum ?
magnum + assault rifle kinda is the best option in there as long as you don't have the beam rifle
I know. I don't want an easy mode at all for myself.oh come on its been one day since global release. ONE day. besides playing in multiplayer makes the game so much more accessible
what i dont understand about that gorefist fest is that you dont even need to shoot at the adds to kill them. let them come close to you and dodge while they're flashing red if you find that managing them is too stressful or something