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elenarie

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I loved it, and certainly agree that the reaction was overblown. But I have to say that the way the said cliffhanger happened did feel to abrupt and, possibly, could have been handled better. But it surely doesn't make the whole game somehow unfinished.

I guess it may make less sense if you only focus on the critical path and ignore everything else that feeds into it but it is optional.
 

Alastor3

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Haven't played any new Deus Ex games beside the 2 first game, why is human revolution better than Mankind Divided?
 

CarlSagan94

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Oh god please let it be true.

Mankind Divided was honestly such a great game. It got too much hate for the narrative not being as good as Human Revolution and the incredibly rushed ending. Those micro transactions and stupid pre-order scheme didn't help either. But the Prague hub, gameplay, soundtrack and side quests were soooo good.
 

IvanSlavkov

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Love the two games HR and MD. The only disappointing thing about MD was the sudden ending that came out of no where! Fingers crossed the rumor is true!
 

DieH@rd

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dgrdsv

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Given there's only 2 Eidos studios to go around (Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal), the idea that we're gonna have 5 games developed simultaneously (DX, Tomb Raider, Thief, and 2 Marvel properties that are co-op focused and thus totally different from anything else) is pretty hard to believe, yeah.
...Thief?
Both CD and EM are rather big studios, and they have some off-site satellites these days (CD Seattle, studios in Shanghai and London). Them making only two games seems as far fetched as them them making five at the same time. So it's possible that at least the next TR and a new DX maybe are in (pre)production.
 

Ralemont

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Haven't played any new Deus Ex games beside the 2 first game, why is human revolution better than Mankind Divided?

I personally don't think it is, it's just that HR came first, and MD didn't reinvent the wheel (nor should it have). I find them very comparable in quality and both well worth it, though.
 

Sabretooth

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Haven't played any new Deus Ex games beside the 2 first game, why is human revolution better than Mankind Divided?

Depending on who you ask, it isn't.

Personally, I think they're both on par. Human Revolution is a more globe-hopping adventure in the style of Deus Ex 1, so you have shallower but more diverse hubs. Mankind Divided is more focused on a single city with much greater depth. Also, Human Revolution just has a more engaging narrative in my opinion.

Ultimately, it's down to which style you prefer.
 

DarkChronic

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Hope this is true. I LOVED Human Revolution but I never beat Mankind Divided for some reason. I should go back to that game.
 

Mentalist

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Depending on who you ask, it isn't.

Personally, I think they're both on par. Human Revolution is a more globe-hopping adventure in the style of Deus Ex 1, so you have shallower but more diverse hubs. Mankind Divided is more focused on a single city with much greater depth. Also, Human Revolution just has a more engaging narrative in my opinion.

Ultimately, it's down to which style you prefer.
At the end of Human Revolution, I wanted Adam Jensen to perish at the bottom of the ocean, because his lovesick puppy routine bored me half to death (the gameplay was a decent Deus Ex game- miles above Invisible War, not quite as good as the original).

In Mankind Divided, I actually liked Jensen. I didn't expect to like him, but I did.
And Mankind Divided has the best level design of any imsism I ever played (though I only played the original Dishonored + DLCs out of Arcane's latest offerings).
 

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badcrumble

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Definitely hope this is true.

That said - I also hope they return to having the memorable/larger-than-life supporting cast that DXHR had (people complain about Mankind Divided's story, but I honestly think it's that the supporting characters got toned down so much - it's not like people haven't dealt with cliffhangers before).

And I hope they revamp some of the systems to be a little bit closer to Dishonored (especially melee takedowns; I don't need the cool cinematics, but it'd be way better for them to consume time instead of energy; also, IMO an experience system designed entirely around finding praxis kits would be better than the exp-based one that gives incentive to play the game kinda weirdly sometimes).
 

justiceiro

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All that fear of Deus ex being a dead franchises because it "vanished" for 3 years are shaping up to be just soon and gloom. What a surprise...
 

∀∃:ETURNA

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Mankind Divided was excellent and the first true successor to the original Deus Ex. I would love to see it expanded upon, so I'm hoping this is true!
 

cowbanana

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If true, then that is good news. I will definitely play more Jensen Simulator 202X. Human Revolution is an all-time great game, the sequel was also very good, but I was disappointed by how it ended.
 

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I thought it was dead, I'd be ecstatic if we actually got another sequel.
 

kami_sama

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My favourite ip, hands down. One of my three genie wishes would be to revive it.
We need more deus ex.
 

Mentalist

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Huh, I'm surprised so many people on here liked Mankind Divided. Personally, I found it vastly superior to the 2011 game. But it seemed it's reception was generally quiet.
The reception was pretty terrible, because Squeeenix did everything possible to screw with the release:
1) Bizarre pre-order campaign (if X amount of people preorder, we will release the game earlier)
2) 1-time use consumables you can buy separately
3) Cutting out missions from the game to sell as pre-order bonus
4) creating a multi-player mode full of microtransactions; not explaining how this actually fits into the story until the first story DLC came out (the DLC was actually quite good; but it took forever to see this to actually connect the multiplayer to the overall story.

Basically, the impression was that the publisher had no faith in the game, so they decided to use every trick in the book to milk it. So this on top of some disappointment over the anemic main story (which was short in comparison to HR) led to very lukewarm reviews.
The actual game underneath all this is great. There are some amazing improvements on HR; the level design in prague is super-layered and full of amazing environmental storytelling; the prison DLC, in particular indicates just how mindblowing the levels are- the fact that I can climb on top of the prison where the anti-air guns are, and then just jump back down to the courtyard a few hundred meters below- and land seamlessly, due to the Icarus Landing System aug-and continue exploring the entire prison complex- it's indicative of the kind of stuff Eidos Montreal can do.

But unfortunately Mankind Divided is probably one of the most egregious examples of publisher meddling this gen.
 

GameAddict411

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I recently replayed mankind divided with all the DLC and was I delighted. The level design and the way they designed the game makes one of the best RPGs I have played this gen. I really hope we see a sequal as the game kinda ended without answering major question raised in the game.
 

FlintSpace

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Deus Ex HR

From one of the best game to ever suck me in to its sequel where I didn't even bothered to rent it.
Let's hope they can get the magic back with MD sequel.
 

Pargon

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I don't believe it, but I wish it was true.
They're too busy trying to cash in on Marvel.

Great post about SE's meddling Mentalist. They really screwed over the game/Eidos Montréal.

Wasn't Mankind Divided not even a finished game? Never played it but remember hearing the game seemed rushed.
It was a full-length game, and I put something like 35–40 hours into it for my first playthrough (I'm always on the longer side of things for immersive sims).
But the ending was very abrupt and it was clearly the middle chapter of a trilogy, set to go right into a direct sequel.
I would be happy with a new game in the Deus Ex universe, even if they didn't finish Adam Jensen's story though.

Yes it is a finished game. Very much so. It just ends on a cliffhanger like the first one did, and people whined about that.
Human Revolution ended in a satisfying way.
The way Mankind Divided ended felt like it was cut in two - even though it was still a long game. They flubbed the ending by making it feel dissatisfying rather than feeling complete in its own right.

The two story DLCs were also excellent. A corporate infiltration and a prison break, classic set ups executed very well.
As much as I loved DXMD, I never did get around to those.
I should, but DLC usually releases too late for me, once I've moved on to something else. Same thing happened with Dishonored.

From the looks of it, Cyberpunk will make redundant whatever MD's devs could cook up.
Mankind Divided was one of the most disappointing, unambitious, insultingly mediocre games of this generation.
Thankfully, we'll no longer have to depend on Deus Ex for sci-fi dystopian cyberpunk shenanigans.
Not every first-person game is trying to be an FPS.
 
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