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dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
22,608
I have three separate sources confirming this. Two of them former developers for Hangar 13, one of them being a journalist. They are very reputable, obviously I can't reveal who they are, nor shall I, as I wish not to hurt their career or cause any legal issues. If that makes my credibility lower, then so be it.

Anyway, let's get into it.

As some of you may already know - MAFIA IV started prototyping stages of development right after MAFIA III wrapped up its DLC season, however as it was reported, the project was "cancelled" or "passed on" by Hangar 13 management in favour of an original IP (all reported and confirmed).

After development on their "original project" wasn't gaining any traction, they decided to assemble a small unit which then became Hangar 13 in Brighton, UK. This team, according to my two developer sources, picked up their original MAFIA IV pitches and prototypes and hit the ground running. After a good 5-6 months of internal struggles, they decided that the project was ambitious and something they wished to pursue, now, every branch (aside from the Czech Republic, I'll get to that) are working on MAFIA IV.

The game, according to my two developer sources and journalist, will indeed be set in 70s Vegas and continue on from where MAFIA III left off. You will play as a new protagonist and it will return to you playing as the Italian Mob in Vegas' golden years of organised crime. Said to be very "Scorsese-esque" whatever that means.

The game will feature a huge map to traverse of course, the story will span a decade according to one of my developer sources, the other developer claims that this was initially not the case as they wanted to continue the documentary style of MAFIA III's storytelling at first, but instead will be a more traditional "now" story with no flashbacks or interviews ahead of the events.

I'm not sure if any characters will return - I never asked this, unfortunately, although I would expect Vito to make an appearance at the very least.

Gone are the repetitive missions from MAFIA III. They know they fucked up there. Apparently the story behind that is a bit murky. The game (MAFIA III) originally allowed you to go straight for the racket bosses, each with unique encounters and deaths, and not have to do the repetitive filler stuff, but as the release date loomed over the developers, the producers were pressuring them to get it shipped and had to make some quality drawbacks.

Many planned mechanics for MAFIA III have made their way into MAFIA IV, one of which being an empire building system, far more in depth than anything I've heard of in any game before. It's insane the stuff they plan with this. One of my sources was telling me of how you can literally build, buy out, and expand casinos, you can take a rundown building and turn it into a metropolis.

It'll be on a new version of the MAFIA II/III engine, massively overhauled, many of the technical issues that plagued M3 should now be mostly non-existent apparently.

Motion capture began on the game about 8-9 months ago. Expected to be revealed next year, with a 2021 release, next gen obviously.

Now then, MAFIA II Remaster - yes, this is a thing and it's coming sooner than you think. Not sure when, but they said "SOON" (TM) - Hangar 13's Czech branch is working on this, it's a complete overhaul and uses the MAFIA IV engine. Think RE2 Remake levels.


Maybe jschreier has more info?

But i was talking about Vegas as perfect setting for Mafia game since Mafia III was announced/released.

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Also tnx lashman
 

Ant

Member
Oct 27, 2017
208
I still never got around to trying Mafia 3, is it worth it?

Loved loved loved Mafia 2 and a game of any sort set in the early days of Vegas would be a brilliant shout.
 

jdmc13

Member
Mar 14, 2019
2,893
Looking forward to it. Each game is always lacking something, but always shows improvement and promise. I would honestly classify it as most consistently improved franchise I've played.
 

Xando

Member
Oct 28, 2017
27,322
I'm down for both

The game, according to my two developer sources and journalist, will indeed be set in 70s Vegas and continue on from where MAFIA III left off. You will play as a new protagonist and it will return to you playing as the Italian Mob in Vegas' golden years of organised crime. Said to be very "Scorsese-esque" whatever that means.
I'm down for that.
 

sredgrin

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Banned
Oct 27, 2017
12,276
The iv stuff I might buy but I don't buy the 2 remake stuff at all. There's no way they're doing a huge remake of that and not just a simple port at best, if it exists.
 

ket

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Jul 27, 2018
12,974
I still never got around to trying Mafia 3, is it worth it?

Loved loved loved Mafia 2 and a game of any sort set in the early days of Vegas would be a brilliant shout.

Mafia 3's story, gameplay, characters, music, atmosphere, etc are all better but Mafia 2 was wayyyyyy less repetitive and nowhere near as drawn out.
 

modiz

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Oct 8, 2018
17,844
from 2 months ago:
An unannounced new studio code-named Parkside that's located right next to Hangar 13 is handling the new Bioshock. Last I heard, Hangar 13 was working on a new IP. I have no idea if anyone's making a new Mafia but a lot of the people who worked on that original Mafia 4 pitch aren't even there anymore.
 

flaxknuckles

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Oct 25, 2017
4,312
The Mafia 2 remake part throws this off. Why remake THAT game instead of Mafia 1, which is a classic and more in need of an overhaul?
 
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dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
22,608
The iv stuff I might buy but I don't buy the 2 remake stuff at all. There's no way they're doing a huge remake of that and not just a simple port at best, if it exists.

Rumors says that it is mostly port to the new enginw with some improvements. They won't add cut content for example (and there was a lot of cut content from Mafia II)

Hmmm...wasn't the Mafia team working on a new Bioshock

No, that is Studio next door.
 

9-Volt

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Oct 27, 2017
12,882
I'm gonna be so pissed if Mafia II remaster skips Switch. The system suffers from bad diversity and needs some quality open world games asap even if they're re-releases.
 

Tora

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Jun 17, 2018
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That's some quick dev time if it releases in 2021

Side note: All these remakes/remasters next gen are going to be so nice when done right.
 

Alpende

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Oct 26, 2017
953
I'm down for a new Mafia game. Not sure if remaking 2 is needed though, I enjoyed my time with it but wouldn't play it again
 

VilleEricson

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Oct 27, 2017
257
Sweden
Definitely down for this. Mafia 3 had so many grea elements, characters, story, music and gameplay. It was just extremely repetive.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
31,980
Remake the original Mafia dammit. The console ports were abysmal compared to the amazing PC version, still got my favourite story of any crime based game ever...

Mafia 2 shouldn't be remastered. That's a waste of time. Don't get me wrong, I loved that game as well, but anyone who followed development of that game knows there was more left on the cutting room floor than what made it into the final game. A remake makes way more sense to put back all the stuff cut, so the game world has actual purpose rather than just being gorgeous window dressing for the awesome main story.

Oh, and totally down for Mafia 4 as long as the plot is solid.
 

PLASTICA-MAN

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Oct 26, 2017
23,620
Yes I saw that alongside AC ragnarok. I hope Mafia 2 remaster will have all the NVidia physics and cloth simulations for every platform by default.

Edit: uses Mafia 4 engine oh wow. I hope all will be next-gen only titles. Why not remake the first game too? It really got aged very well.
 

DOBERMAN INC

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Oct 27, 2017
2,993
Loved the main game and atmosphere for Mafia 2 but the open world was pretty empty, it would be great if they could also liven it up a bit.
Does 'Baby, It's cold outside' survive the remaster?
 

ArjanN

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,114
The Mafia 2 remake part throws this off. Why remake THAT game instead of Mafia 1, which is a classic and more in need of an overhaul?

Wouldn't it be exactly because it'd be way less work. You could get away with essentially just remastering 2, maybe tweak some stuff and here and tighten up the graphics, Mafia 1 would need a complete remake basically.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,671
I forgot how mad people were when they found out the protagonist of 3 was a black dude
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,143
Mafia 3's writing and acting was some of the best i seen in gaming. Honestly it should have been a movie or an HBO series.
 

iceblade

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,217
Assuming it's true I'm going to be in on day 1. I love this series. Mafia 1 was great (except that racing mission lol), so was Mafia 2 (which I still need to replay), and Mafia 3, despite its flaws was also quite fun.

The Mafia 2 remake part throws this off. Why remake THAT game instead of Mafia 1, which is a classic and more in need of an overhaul?

Agreed. It'd also give people more insight into the franchise and help tie a few things together that otherwise might not be as meaningful.

One example would be where you kill Tommy


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