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Red Dead Redemption II PC performance thread

dsk1210

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Feel really bad for you all having problems.

I have not had a single crash or problem starting the game which I was totally expecting after hearing people were having problems.

I never updated my Nvidia drivers before playing the game, I am still on the Asgard Wrath game ready drivers and afraid to update incase I start having problems.
 
MythicReclaimer

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Flappy Pannus said:
Or you know, people who have the myriad of PC configurations that can produce massive stuttering depending upon the API.
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Yeah, that quote (especially making it on day 2 of the game's release, don't really care about "who" that person is or what they do) is a bit much for me given the overall state of this game's release. Calling it unoptimized may be a small stretch but being optimized and technically stable are somewhat similar to one another. The game is clearly not in a technical stable state currently with small and bigger issues popping up for likely the majority of the player-base.
 

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I'm sorry. can someone upload the system.xml file


  • Go to C:\Users\*YourUserName*\Documents\Rockstar Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\Settings
  • Find the system.xml file in the Settings folder.

I dont see this in my documents folder and hopefully just messing around will actually make the game launch
 

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Isee

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georaldc said:
That's crazy if true
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Not the exact same benchmark location, but probably close enough. Add a bit of fog to the scene and it would go down further.
It's not very surprising, all those extra light and shadow calculations will put more stress on the GPU.
As said, the benchmark isn't the worst case scenario.

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h00jraq

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Is it enough to have Lightning at High to have global lightning (so light from moon etc?) or I need to have it on Ultra?
 
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I was testing the settings and found something interesting. Reflection setting isn't only for the resolution of reflections on windows and stuff like I thought.

You can clearly see the difference in quality on the wooden surface of the wagon. There's also a blue light bounce/reflection on the ceiling of the barn which is more prominent on ultra settings. Global illumination is the same(High) for both screenshots.

ULTRA reflection quality:
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LOW reflection quality:
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I say in my video that it controls SSR quality as well.
 
ss_lemonade

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Nintendo said:
I was testing the settings and found something interesting. Reflection setting isn't only for the resolution of reflections on windows and stuff like I thought.

You can clearly see the difference in quality on the wooden surface of the wagon. There's also a blue light bounce/reflection on the ceiling of the barn which is more prominent on ultra settings. Global illumination is the same(High) for both screenshots.

ULTRA reflection quality:
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LOW reflection quality:
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I noticed that ultra reflection quality can hurt framerates a lot even in outdoor areas, so yeah I'm guessing it's because it overall affects how lights bounce on objects as well.
 
R.T Straker

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justjim89 said:
What BES program?

What BES program?


I can't launch it in DX12. What's Process Lasso?
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Frox said:
This is what one of my friends runnning a 2500k did and he played the game ever ever sinces stutter free;

First, you have to play in DX12. Vulkan for those i5 is unplayable and cause the big hitching.

Now you have to download Process Lasso
Select RDR2 from that list, CPU limiter >

''When CPU use is'' > Set it to 98
''For a period of'' leave it blank
''Reduce by this many cores'' > Set it to 1
''For a peroid of'' > Set it to 1

Hit add rule, then ok.

Then after that set the game's prioirty to above normal and that's it. Anyone that gets those freezes due to the CPU spike can try this method.
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Lashley

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Anyone with a 3700x, how does it perform? Is it still CPU intensive? Considering upgrading from an i5-6600k to that
 
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Deathglobe

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So the people who rolled back there nvidia drivers how much of a increase did you see ? And how's the stability
 
Jamrock User

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I was looking at a r5 2600 or i5 9400f. There both affordable but motherboards are mad expensive.

I really want to get dx12 to work for my setup.
 

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Forceflow said:
  • Removing the Rockstar Games / Red Dead Redemption 2 folder should re-create that file (but only on succesful launch, which is probably your problem)
  • You can download the contents of an example XML file (from me) here: https://www.forceflow.be/temp/rdr2_settings_parser/system.xml - If you're crashing on startup, try changing the value kSettingAPI_Vulkan to kSettingAPI_DX12
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YES IT FINALLY LOADS!!! thank you so much, changing the vulkan to DX12 line made it load and finally have a successful launch so it should save the settings. Hopefully this helps others! Time to see how it runs now
 
Lashley

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Dan Longman said:
Plays great on my 2700x so the 3700x will be even better
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georaldc said:
Zero issues with the 3700x. GPU is more of a problem with this game.
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Frox said:
The 3700x smokes the game.

You won't have any problems.

Performance wise at least
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Going to get it sorted now, because it's unplayable on my i5-6600k. Constant stutters, tried DX 12, tried BES, tried Project Lasso but nothing helps.
 
Fjordson

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Reading some of the thread, looks like the textures being a blurry mess on "High" isn't my computer. Good to know.

Bumped them up to ultra and it certainly looks better, though still kinda disappointing imo. Still see a texture every once in a while that looks really bad.

Also, potentially dumb question here but: I have an 8 GB 2080 Super, but the in-game settings are saying I only have like 6.9 GB worth of VRAM. Is that just a bug?
 
Flappy Pannus

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Shaquille Hunter said:
I was looking at a r5 2600 or i5 9400f. There both affordable but motherboards are mad expensive.

I really want to get dx12 to work for my setup.
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Linus815 said:
b450 mobos arent that expensive
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Yeah and neither are LGA1151 motherboards if you're going for a non-overclockable Intel, motherboards are relatively cheap compared to most PC components. This is basically my motherboard, 2 M2 slots, USB C, 4 dimm slots - really don't need anything more for a 9400F. B450M motherboards are in the exact same price range.
 
laxu

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Damn game crashes every single time I try to ride to town with Hosea, like clockwork. They really, really didn't test this shit.
 
Hedonism Bot

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Is there any link between the sudden crashes this game experiences and the CTDs that GTAV has also been experiencing for the past few rounds of drivers?
 
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I had a power outage during a game and it corrupted the save and game cached data to the point that repetitive loads even in safe mode wouldn't work.

But I found a trick to force the game to recompile whatever cache is corrupted:
1. Start an online game (I haven't created a character yet)
2. As soon as it asks you to select a character, exit.
3. Go back to story, load.

This worked for me once before but I didn't realize it because I loaded online by mistake and exited.

Really frustrating that a PC game:
1. Isn't smart enough to recompile whatever starting a new online game does.
2. Doesn't allow loading story saves other than forced latest.
 
Felix Lighter

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Lashley said:
Anyone with a 3700x, how does it perform? Is it still CPU intensive? Considering upgrading from an i5-6600k to that
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The game is not particularly CPU intensive, but demonstrated in the Gamers Nexus benches showed it struggles abnormally in the 4 core/4 thread i5s. Anything with 4c/8t or better should have no issue and anyone with one of those CPUs will almost certainly be GPU limited.
 
dgrdsv

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Letters said:
Here's hoping that Rockstar and Nvidia have been working on some amazing updates for this week.
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The game is high profile enough to warrant an investigation on Nv's driver team part.
But with it being D3D12/VK only there's only so much the driver team can do to fix the renderer. So I wouldn't expect much, the ball is in Rockstar's court.
 
justjim89

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God, it's always something with this fucking game. Got it to launch in DX12 finally thanks to this post, but now the mouse pointer is back in the middle of the screen and won't disappear, my display reverts to windowed instead of fullscreen at every launch, and I'm still getting freezing in menus and shops. I shouldn't have even messed with it.
 
Duxxy3

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So I replaced everything on my second computer and the only thing left is Windows. So I'm re-installing that now. I've installed Windows literally hundreds (if not thousands) of times, so that's not a big deal.
 
vacantseas

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jorimt said:
For it's worth, I found these steps online, and it worked for me (couldn't launch with DX12 previously either):

1. Search "Apps & Features"
2. Click "Optional Features"
3. Click "+ Add a feature"
4. Click "Graphics Tools" > "Install"
5. Relaunch game in DX12

Seems like my system and/or the game was missing some DX12 dependencies (even though my Windows Updates are all installed).

May or may not work in your case, but worth a shot.


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Thanks for this. I reinstalled DX12 and am running the game with DX12 and have had no issues in a couple hours playing. Well one or two crashes, but no stutters and it's actually playable now.

Thanks again!
 
h00jraq

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Is map bugged for anyone? If I zoom out, it totally innacurate and when I'm trying to zoom in, it behave very weird... Like when I zoom out, valentine markers move east and Horsshe Overlook markers show in unknow map area...
 
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Cyanity

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Tweaked some settings around to try and balance performance with quality, since high lighting makes such a difference in terms of quality.
My setup:
Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 6 mobo
OC'd i5 6600k with the process lasso fix enabled
+200 core +600 memory GTX 1070 (8GB)
1440p resolution, Vulkan renderer, Gsync enabled, Vsync On, latest nVidia drivers
55+fps in normal gameplay, mid-40's in towns

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, Vulkan
2560 x 1440, 59hz, Windowed: No, Vsync: Yes, Triple: On

Textures: Ultra
Anisotropic: 16x
Lighting: High
Global Illumination: High
Shadows: High
Far Shadows: High
SSAO: Medium
Reflection: Low
Mirror: High
Water: Medium
Volumetrics: Medium
Particles: Medium
Tessellation: High
FXAA: On, TAA: High, MSAA: 0

Near Volumetrics Quality: Medium
Far Volumetric Quality: Medium
Volumetric Lighting Quality: Medium
Unlocked Volumetric Raymarch Resolution: Off
Particle Lighting Quality: Medium
Soft Shadows: High
Grass Shadows: Medium
Long Shadows: On
Full resolution SSAO: Off
Water Refraction Quality: Medium
Water Reflection Quality: Medium
Water Physics Quality: 50%
Resolution scale: 100%
TAA Sharpen Intensity: 100%
Motion Blur: On
Reflection MSAA: Off
Geometry Level of Detail: 79%
Grass Level of Detail: 41%
Tree Quality: High
Parallax Occlusion Mapping Quality: High
Decal Quality: High
Fur Quality: Medium

Generated on 2019-11-11 16:16 with Forceflow's RDR2 settings parser (https://bit.ly/2oZlIuy)

edit - if any of y'all know of any settings I could reduce to squeeze a bit more performance out of this game without hurting overall quality, please share!
 
Duxxy3

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So I replaced everything on my second computer and the only thing left is Windows. So I'm re-installing that now. I've installed Windows literally hundreds (if not thousands) of times, so that's not a big deal.
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So all I had to do was completely reinstall Windows from scratch. At least I didn't spend any more money anyhow. Could have been worse.
 

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Cyanity said:
Tweaked some settings around to try and balance performance with quality, since high lighting makes such a difference in terms of quality.
My setup:
Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 6 mobo
OC'd i5 6600k with the process lasso fix enabled
+200 core +600 memory GTX 1070 (8GB)
1440p resolution, Vulkan renderer, Gsync enabled, Vsync On, latest nVidia drivers
55+fps in normal gameplay, mid-40's in towns

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, Vulkan
2560 x 1440, 59hz, Windowed: No, Vsync: Yes, Triple: On

Textures: Ultra
Anisotropic: 16x
Lighting: High
Global Illumination: High
Shadows: High
Far Shadows: High
SSAO: Medium
Reflection: Low
Mirror: High
Water: Medium
Volumetrics: Medium
Particles: Medium
Tessellation: High
FXAA: On, TAA: High, MSAA: 0

Near Volumetrics Quality: Medium
Far Volumetric Quality: Medium
Volumetric Lighting Quality: Medium
Unlocked Volumetric Raymarch Resolution: Off
Particle Lighting Quality: Medium
Soft Shadows: High
Grass Shadows: Medium
Long Shadows: On
Full resolution SSAO: Off
Water Refraction Quality: Medium
Water Reflection Quality: Medium
Water Physics Quality: 50%
Resolution scale: 100%
TAA Sharpen Intensity: 100%
Motion Blur: On
Reflection MSAA: Off
Geometry Level of Detail: 79%
Grass Level of Detail: 41%
Tree Quality: High
Parallax Occlusion Mapping Quality: High
Decal Quality: High
Fur Quality: Medium

Generated on 2019-11-11 16:16 with Forceflow's RDR2 settings parser (https://bit.ly/2oZlIuy)

edit - if any of y'all know of any settings I could reduce to squeeze a bit more performance out of this game without hurting overall quality, please share!
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TAA bring it down to medium, the difference between high and medium is not noticeable IMO and can give you a few frames.
 
R.T Straker

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I also still don't know why they also haven't made this one on DX11 also.

Some modders or whatever from GTAforums before the launch said that DX11 would be there along side Vulkan and DX12 since they ''got'' the game early. Which goes to show that might have been nothing but lies.
 

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Anyone got a fix for the slow menu transitions? Takes forever to bring up the settings menu. I've tried deleting the settings folder and disabling v-sync, as suggested elsewhere, but no luck so far.
 
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