Is something wrong with me? I played and beat the game and never really had a big issue with it. Had more problems moving around in Witcher 3 which never gets called atrocious or unplayable.
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Red Dead Redemption 2 Has Forever Changed How I View Games
- Thread starter Kevin Shields
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Good read OP.
And I love how all the people that supposedly hated the game managed to either finish it or get a great deal through it.
Then there's those who only bitched about the slow controls once they read it on a website.
It's no longer cool to hate the popular things...
And I love how all the people that supposedly hated the game managed to either finish it or get a great deal through it.
Then there's those who only bitched about the slow controls once they read it on a website.
It's no longer cool to hate the popular things...
RDR2 is the biggest achievement in video games history when it comes to immersion and having a world feel truly alive, nothing comes even close. It's not a perfect game by any means, the controls could certainly be better, but when it comes to those 2 things there's nothing even comparable.
Because it is more immersive than any movie will ever be thanks to how interactive video games are compared to a movie where you can't decide anything.
So according to you, you're not allowed to dislike the game, because you either disliked it even though you played the entire thing, or you disliked it because you didn't play enough of it?
Do people who hate rdr 2 hate the Witcher 3 gameplay?
They have deeply flawed controls/combat but are amazing worlds and cinematic experiences. I can look past it personally.
The quality that exists past these issues is top of the industry in both.
They have deeply flawed controls/combat but are amazing worlds and cinematic experiences. I can look past it personally.
The quality that exists past these issues is top of the industry in both.
Lmao at thinking people don't criticize The Witcher 3's gameplay.
The difference is that CDPR went back and fixed things. Afaik, all Rockstar cares about post-release is their online mode.
I've started and stopped it a bunch of times now. I've deleted it and downloaded it multiple times.
Wish I had your strength OP. I THINK I'm done with it after my last attempt. I put a lot of hours into it but it wasn't enough for me to care about the characters and story so much that I could ignore what I found as boring gameplay.
Wish I had your strength OP. I THINK I'm done with it after my last attempt. I put a lot of hours into it but it wasn't enough for me to care about the characters and story so much that I could ignore what I found as boring gameplay.
Can't speak for everyone, but I don't like Witcher 3 either. Both games were pretty boring to me tbh.
For me yes. I bought Witcher 3 day one and, despite loving the story, it took me nearly two years to beat it because playing the game simply wasn't fun. As far as RDR2 goes, I also bought it day one and haven't made it past Chapter 2 just simply because of how slow and confining is. It doesn't help that the story hasn't picked up at all.
Agreed. I'm normally super cautious with what I buy but the hype did (regrettably) suck me in.
I think rdr2 is better if you play it like a roleplaying game. i didnt play it like that back then and it hurt the game for me. i play the online though and i really enjoy it
edit: i guess i should add that many of the things that made playing the single player a slog for me are fixed in the online, like looting and character control
edit: i guess i should add that many of the things that made playing the single player a slog for me are fixed in the online, like looting and character control
It had the opposite effect on me. I used to be able to enjoy slow-burn, immersion-driven games like this a lot more, but RDR2 showed me that I just don't have the patience or tolerance for them anymore. It just felt so bad to control, and the pacing was absolutely glacial.
RDR 2 teached me i should wait on pc versions more. There is a good game in RDR 2, it is just buried behind a lot of stuff I found really bad and not fun to play. I suspect the pc version will have mods to remove a lot of that stuff and make the game actually enjoyable for me, but i am not going to replay it.
I really disliked RDR 2 gameplay, but witcher 3 is my GOTG. I think it is because while the gameplay of witcher 3 is not top notch, a lot of the game is A LOT more snappy than RDR 2. Witcher 3 doesn't have camps you are forced to slowly walk in, looting is a lot faster, getting to your objective in a mission is a lot faster, quick travel is a lot faster etc. They are not that comparable imo.
I really disliked RDR 2 gameplay, but witcher 3 is my GOTG. I think it is because while the gameplay of witcher 3 is not top notch, a lot of the game is A LOT more snappy than RDR 2. Witcher 3 doesn't have camps you are forced to slowly walk in, looting is a lot faster, getting to your objective in a mission is a lot faster, quick travel is a lot faster etc. They are not that comparable imo.
I like them both . I consider W3 best game this gen and thought nothing will come close to that as far as open world goes, and RDR 2 came very close .
I also think W3 has snappier more responsive controls and animation and just far more engaging combat but at the same time geralts animations are janky as fuck and roach is just roach.
On the other hand RDR 2 has very deliberate controls and pacing and animation priority over everything , but i dont mind it , i actually find it refreshing and it helps for me to get into the mood of the game . But the gunplay is mediocre or at least the combat itself is just really really bad , always feel like shooting gallery . And horse controls are probably the best this entire gen, it just feels so good riding a horse , unlike god damn roach.
this. It feels terrible, the gun play is mediocre like all Rockstar games, tons of unnecessary padding. I slogged through RDR because it was unique but I couldnt bother with RDR2 anymore. There's so much to play that it's not worth it. Bummed I got it digitally though.
Forever changed my view of games as well. I will never buy another Rockstar game without extensive testing first. I will never pre-order another game. I will never trust games reviewers again unless there are fundamental changes made in the whole industry.
Yeah I don't like both, but I dropped the Witcher after 10 hours. It just didn't feel right and the animations are ridiculously bad. I finished RDR2.
@OP: It changed my view in a way that I didn't knew you could create such a boring linear and dreadful game with such a beautiful story and amazing open world.
So games are "fun" or "boring"? Gotcha
I got this with Destiny.
Absolute shambles
These comments are ridiculous, for one games do not need to be just one way. The game is hardly Atrocious at all, I never had any issues with the controls/gameplay. They aren;t the best ever but it sure isn't atrocious, I know I am wasting my breath as people on this form live in their own bubbles.
No they never, The Witcher still has mediocre in the gameplay department...
lol. Some of you really need to get some perspective.
What fundamental changes need to happen, huh? You got that secret ingredient for what REALLY makes a good reviewer?
Someone that values gameplay above all else in you know games since that's what they are actually reviewing. When I find one I'll let you know.
Newsflash..many had no issues with the gameplay. your opinion is not the only one that matters. Who are you to define what is /isn't good gameplay for the industry?
I'm not gonna set myself rules for what to enjoy or how to approach or critique games. They have so much potential to express themselves differently and I'll take them by their own merits. Maybe it's the simple fun that keeps me going, maybe I'm intrigued by the story or world, maybe it's the underlying game design and mechanics. RDR2 is a role playing game to me, if you can accept its rhythm and realism and play it accordingly it has a lot to offer. Just the underlying amount of simulation going on is so fascinating to me, follow around the drunk guy in the first little town you encounter and you'll find a little story completely outside of its head to this waypoint design, it's so deep and lovingly crafted I really think you're missing out if you appraoch this like "serve me the fun, game or I'm outta here". Then again everyone has every right to spend their time however they feel like. Personally I'm happy this game exists in the triple A space, it takes risks alienating the short attention span crowd, it wants the player to exist in it, settle in and experience how far videogame world simulation has come and it does that expertly.
This game had some amazing marketing, that's for sure. People not having fun with the game but still trying to convince themselves how amazing it is
This is too much logic for here . good post.
?? So everyone who liked the game is delusional or lying? lol.
Many did but no reviewers, none. This is a discussion forum I can say whatever the fuck I want.
Maybe because the gameplay is fine for them, it was for me, I never had an issue with it at all. maybe reviews talk about the gameplay,. go and read some.
Whatever I'm bored of taking about it. It's a broken industry. 97% its embarrassing.
Nothing embarrassing except these posts. How childish is it to say the entire industry is broken because a game got high reviews you don't agree with...No game is or should be for everyone, gatekeeping gaming is annoying.
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Its not a badgame, I think I'm just done with Rockstar's open world formula. It's just drive/ride horse 10 miles to objective point, kill some guys/steal something/etc, then watch a cutscene, then.....MISSION COMPLETE! Here's $1,000, now enjoy the long ride back to camp where you have to park your horse 500 feet from camp and slowly walk back your mission giver to waste as much of your time as possible. In fact, that's how I feel about every aspect in the game. Every little thing you do has a long winded animation that gets really aggravating after a while.
I'm sure the story is great, but I'll never know because I'm sick and tired of Rockstar's gameplay. It has not evolved one iota in years, aside from tedious animations. Honestly, that's just how I feel about AAA games these days in general. I'd rather just play something with straight to the point game play.
I'm sure the story is great, but I'll never know because I'm sick and tired of Rockstar's gameplay. It has not evolved one iota in years, aside from tedious animations. Honestly, that's just how I feel about AAA games these days in general. I'd rather just play something with straight to the point game play.
I WAS ready to jump in for my 2nd playthrough, but with DS ready to land i've put on hold. It's one of the most, if not THE most atmospheric and technically amazing game i've ever played in my 44 years on this good earth.
The Last Guardian had me thinking that way, would make an awesome Studio Ghibli anime. But RDR2 has so much freedom between the linear story segments and the world is so dynamic and full of life that it would be a real shame to just make a linear movie about it. I assume that the gameplay issues will be less problematic on PC as well so I would advise everyone who put down the game because of that to give the PC version a try instead.
I think RDR2 speaks to a trend or change in game design we might be seeing more of going forward. This idea of things not necessarily having to be 'fun'.
I'm kind of paraphrasing here as it's been a while since I heard it, but I remember Niel Druckmann speaking about TLOU2. He wouldn't like using the word 'fun' around the office and instead would use 'engaging'. Games that stop being concerned with having to be fun all the time are honestly what excite me the most at the moment. It'll be really interesting to see how this plays out for TLOU2 as I enjoyed this aspect of RDR2 as flawed as it was.
I'm kind of paraphrasing here as it's been a while since I heard it, but I remember Niel Druckmann speaking about TLOU2. He wouldn't like using the word 'fun' around the office and instead would use 'engaging'. Games that stop being concerned with having to be fun all the time are honestly what excite me the most at the moment. It'll be really interesting to see how this plays out for TLOU2 as I enjoyed this aspect of RDR2 as flawed as it was.
GOTG versus liked....no difference between the two at all.... Awful comparison.
Your right. People aren't allowed to have opinions on their gotg is.
