It would be great if they at the very least have the courtesy to tell us they are looking in to this. Have anyone tried to contact Rockstar? Is there a forum?
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Red Dead Redemption 2 DF Analysis (Read OP)
- Thread starter BladeX
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Exactly. People have to understand that complaints don't stem from XboxOneX technical superiority at all but from poor decisions R* made implementig current Pro upscaling solution which litteraly destroys any gains in resolution over base PS4. This is not right at all and should be stated loud and clearly.
Out of my curiosity: the sharpness slider improves the blurriness on the Pro? DF didn't mentioned it and kinda of curious what changes (I have the X version but I'm still very curious about the pro version).
I'm with you. Hate with all myself Xbox UI but the performance advantage give me no choice to get the X version. If the Pro would've run better, I care relatively about the blurriness issue (though I admit, I hate how smeared is the vegetation).
I have been following this thread on and off, there have been some corkers - but I have to ask, what has any of this got to do the price of bread? Why not just say "more people bought it on PlayStation"... oh wait..
So that sharpness option in the menu only showed up when I set the Pro to 1080p and it was all the way up as default.
Yeah but hearing him, the performance difference between the X and the Pro is very minimal. 1080p give almost locked 30fps on the Pro.
Probably is a forum. Is anyone outside of this thread bothered though lol? Not looking forward to the patch/update lottery either though, can see things changing quickly ala Witcher 3.
Correct. Disappears when output is above that.
UI is just code for "I prefer Sony".
I mean its absolutely ridiculous at this point to base a decision on any console UI. They are all different, you may have preference but c'mon.....it barely matters either way. They all let you buy games, and play game and none are tricky to make that happen...anyhow I digress....
That smell of bug to me. 4k mode is the only which needs of such option.
I've turned it on. It's just cleaner that way.
Not a fan of artificial sharpening at all.
Sure. But DF stated that the XBX version runs better than the Pro version, which is wrong.
I my code I prefer sony but because I find their UI more intuitive.Both UI for me, are not absolutely identical, I'd like more if it was. I find extremely confusing the Xbox UI and I haven't understand yet how is handled the whole catalogue...now I'm not saying pro UI is the best ever but at least I see immediately how to go in my whole catalogue without turn around the different side bar menu...by the way we are in OT territory.
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Wait a second, there's a sharpness slider option? Is that also available for the base PS4? Need to turn off super sampling and try this out soon. Wonder how the game will look at 1080p on a 100" display. I didn't have game/immersion breaking issues with the supersampling mode enabled.
It would be great if DF made video analysing 1080p options on PS4 Pro and making a deeper dive on what exactly is going on with sharpness and HDR on 4K sets..
1080p and Pro is quite common setup and can almost lock framerate to 30. (and make console quiet which can be preferable if someone play at night with kids around).
1080p and Pro is quite common setup and can almost lock framerate to 30. (and make console quiet which can be preferable if someone play at night with kids around).
No. That's a static shot. I snapped it after waking up in the camp and leaving the camera in place.
In the modes tested, it's clearly noted that the X runs better than Pro using their 4K modes. This is correct.
I suppose if you're willing to take a huge hit to image quality the gap is closed and Pro might be better faster in a couple small instances.
This whole situation is crazy. The Pro version isn't what it should be. Period. It's not as sharp is it could be and performance is slightly less unless you drop the resolution. That's not exactly a great solution.
It looks fine. I'm also playing on 100 inch screen with a 1080P projector. Both look great but i prefer the cleaner look with SS On. But i was surprised the base PS4 version still looked good on that size.
This, I'm struggling adjusting...I'm fine with exclusives, really odd! lol
The UI is bad though...it's slow and a nightmare to find anything. I do agree though, it's like the last reason to 'chose a side'! lol
So I am not alone then, I did find the game with SS on spectacular. There were two specific sections in the environment that did come across a bit blurry than it's supposed to be. Outside of that beautiful visuals nonetheless.
Yep. Just softer than the X version. But clean, noiseless and looking good... Still hope Rockstar can take a look at things since stuff seems to be wrong for a lot of people. But i'm a graphics whore and on a 100 inch screen all graphical artifacts become visible real fast. But it looks good... Can't say anything else. Still, you can try out disabling SS yourself.
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Exactly. I am glad you are now telling it as it is. I thought you were very lenient on your video although I can absolutely understand why you were. But the hard truth is this. The Pro version is just sloppy. Not what it should be. Pretty crazy if you think that Sony had a marketing deal with them. We can only hope that R* does something about it.
Glad to hear from you. Now lets hope R will care about it and will fix it in the future for the only pro owners but probably will not happens in short times.
I truly wish I was exaggerating but it is indeed pretty blurry. Its most certainly not my setup as I don't have this game with other titles. On a 55" uhd game, it's just blurry. The foliage especially lacks clarity due to the checkerboarding solution and taa. You only need to watch the NX gamer video to confirm this for yourself. I for the life of me cannot understand what Rockstar was thinking.
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Thank you John for stating this clearly at least here :) Let's hope for some comment from R*..
Why the hell did it take this for people to believe there was a problem? Does DF have that much weight?
Thank you for the clarifications sir. I'm still happy with the overall visual output on the Pro from the game. Could it be even better than what we are getting? I guess so, based on how good Spider-Man looked.
There is area for improvement, but can it be achieved via an update/patch?
People are spewing so much bullshit in here and the OT it's laughable. Yeah... game looks bad cause the competitor got it running at native 4K, we get it!
No, you obviously don't get it. Read all of the posts again about people complaining it's blurry. Nobody with a Pro cares about the X version. They care that it's blurry and looks worse than the base PS4 at 1080p.
But has been reported by many people with 4K TV as an annoying problem. What's exactly is wrong to ask to R to give a check? I don't get the animosity.
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We can hope. But i'm not waiting for it. The game is addictive as hell and it already looks good enough to enjoy playing.
Thank you DF for confirming what lots of us suspected.
After playing several games at 2160CB or other resolutions I knew something wasnt right.
I quit posting about it because I decided to skip this or wait it out to see what, if any, problem existed. Still followed the thread.
A bit disappointed that the giant known as R* would get it wrong.
After playing several games at 2160CB or other resolutions I knew something wasnt right.
I quit posting about it because I decided to skip this or wait it out to see what, if any, problem existed. Still followed the thread.
A bit disappointed that the giant known as R* would get it wrong.
I don't think it's that. It's just that we hadn't had a super close look at it. Now it's clear that the CBR + TAA approach doesn't really work well here.
Just a quick question.. all the footage from before the game was released, was from PS4 pro, you guys even analyzed it.. was the same thing not visible in the footage back then?
Where are you getting outrage from? Pro owners stated there was a problem 30 pages ago and was called liars basically and salty because of the XB1X version. Now that DF confirmed a possible issue, now it could be an issue???
In the DF video, this should've been stated as the 1080P version is sharper than a resolution that is doubled.
On a different note, I hope DF revisits this just as TF2 was on the X.
He already said to cant check the 1080p mode for his TV setup. You know, isn't it exactly the normality expect such anomaly.
It's not a dig at DF, but some members here. It doesn't feel good to be said that you're overreacting or lying.
This is a classic case of the "shoe fitting". The post was not directed towards you personally, more so the change of heart of some members once word was out by DF.
I posted probably about 2x on occasion in DF threads mentioning how I did not like the chunky look their resolution had in preview videos. Yeah, we talked about it before release but it just became much more obvious when put next to a native resolution.
Right? Usually I'm far from conspiracy theories but something just feels off here considering technical R&D R* has to have.
I dont think they missed anything really. Even in the 2nd video he says "we've seen better on PRO" . They had to get their analysis out the door though.
Others who have played Ratchet and Clank, HZD, or similar games felt something was "off" . There is literally pages of people saying the same.
Again, thanks DF for taking time to confirm it all.
Others who have played Ratchet and Clank, HZD, or similar games felt something was "off" . There is literally pages of people saying the same.
Again, thanks DF for taking time to confirm it all.
Thanks... I just bought myself a 55" LG Tv this weekend (not Oled, because those are still to expensive here) saw a great deal.. Have yet to try the game with 4K and HDR, need to adjust my TV so that I get the most out of the picture... and I am new to HDR, so this is all so strange to me..
If i only have device that can display 1080P is the xbox one x version still better by a large margin ?
It's the best version period. The margin is subjective, i guess.