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Joohanh

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
39
Helsinki
While it's cool and all that there's a decent version of the game, the base version for One sucks balls. I'm never going to waste my time playing something at 800p under 30 fps - let alone paying 60 euros to so. It cannot be redeemed by the quality of the game - it's simply impossible to enjoy anything through that delivery.

I really, absolutely, CANNOT UNDERSTAND the reason for no PC version at launch.
 

Kemono

▲ Legend ▲
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,669
I need your advice friends. I play on a nice 1080p monitor. I own both Xbox X and PS4 pro and I bought the game on PS4 pro off psn to play with friends and get trophies.
Now im not impressed with this version, I hate soft images. Do you think it's worth it to get the Xbox X version? To play the campaign. (Money is not an issue) . Or will the differences in supersampling not be that substantial?

The picture quality of the X-Version is godly. Clean and sharp.

If you want an outstanding picture buy yourself a X and have fun.
 

Deleted member 34239

User requested account closure
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Nov 24, 2017
1,154
^^ Knowing Rockstar I wouldnt expect a fix.
If they don't fix it, I likely won't even bother finishing the game until much much later. Maybe when I can snag it on sale on the PC. From what I've played so far, the game isn't really as interesting as metacritic suggests. Also, the controls are terrible as is standard for Rockstar. I can also feel the frame drops while playing. I'm not a 60fps or nothing guy but, my minimum acceptable requirement is a locked 30fps with proper frame pacing and they can't even get that right. Let's see what happens though, maybe they'll fix it if enough people complain.
 

Pryme

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Aug 23, 2018
8,164
Not only that but they clearly used base XB1 Code to bring it up to 4K. Personally, I don't find it groundbreaking graphically, but it is very good.

'Base XB1 code'? False.
It looks better than the PS4 version (improved textures) and is overall one of the most beautiful games this gen.
 

Dreezy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Kemono

▲ Legend ▲
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,669
Keep on going. I felt the same way early on.

Did you guys test the games with the newest patch installed?

I'm a big fan of your channel and your videos. Thank you for your hard work.

I've played he X Version yesterday for a few hours. Stopped in Valentine (first city). Without having played the Pro Version at this time i wondered why the game feels somewhat sluggish from time to time. Especially indoors. It's not that the fps are going down much but as if the input has some light lag. Standing in front of the general store in valentine at night (lights in front of the store) felt not good. Was that something you encountered also or is my setup broken (Xbox One X, SOny A1 55 OLED).

The Pro Version unlocked later yesterday and i've only played until the hunting tutorial but i must say that i didn't encounter the same light laggy feeling indoors (so far) as with my X Version of the game. I'm looking forward arriving in valentine on my pro to see the difference. Or experiencing even worse fps.

What's your take on this? My setups fault, am i just imagining things or is there a new patch out?
 

SharpX68K

Member
Nov 10, 2017
10,518
Chicagoland
Not only that but they clearly used base XB1 Code to bring it up to 4K. Personally, I don't find it groundbreaking graphically, but it is very good.

'Base XB1 code'? False.
It looks better than the PS4 version (improved textures) and is overall one of the most beautiful games this gen.

Yeah, I knew something about that statement about base Xbox One code on Xbox One X sounded wrong.
 

Deleted member 34239

User requested account closure
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Nov 24, 2017
1,154
Keep on going. I felt the same way early on.
I kinda agree with voxel on this one. I've only played it on the pro where the image quality is clearly worse than the x. That being said, from what I saw and heard in part one of your video, its a good looking game. I'd say good but not ground breaking. The techniques being used have already been done by other devs and so far, it doesn't do anything new. The snow for example looks worse than that in God of War. Its a polished game from a visual perspective but the animations, while detailed are not impressive to me.
 

Voxels

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Oct 27, 2017
528
I don't know how they thought this was an acceptable state to release the game on pro tbh. The only games I've seen or played with a worse implementation were Syndicate and FFXV. Pro support was bolted on for Syndicate so the poor initial results were expected but, it was fixed shortly after. When you build from the ground up for the console and you release this, its a very poor showing from Rockstar. I mean, they'd seen all the other big third and first party implementations and this is their best foot forward. It's really sad. I'm holding off on my playthrough till it's fixed. I wish I didn't preorder this digitally. If I had known that the implementation was this poor ahead of time, I'd have just waited for the pc release.
It's just bad. While in a cutscene keep an eye on the background characters and objects. There's some sort of screen door effect.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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How long have you had that XB1X for?

Anyone else able to comment on this?

I already own a PS4 Pro, but was considering picking up an X just for this game (huge fan of RDR), so this is a bit concerning (because the PS4 Pro is already loud as fuck).

I won't be able to check this until tomorrow when I wake up, I installed the game just now, to an external drive. Will update if I have an issue then.

Oddly, today, earlier in the day, my Scorpio Edition that I got on launch stopped displaying... anything. Only displays in Safe Mode. Had something begin to happen around when Forza Horizon 4 released which I thought I fixed with a card drive wipe and USB software install, but, it seems to be relatedness to a particular chip inside. It can be fixed by a pro or someone with a replacement and knowing how to replaced soldered chips .. but, for me, R.I.P. Scorpio Edition. Standard Black replacement it was.

False alarm.

Moved the Xbox and it's super quiet now. So go ahead pick up that X!
 

HaloForzaGuy

Member
Nov 11, 2017
694
The effect is real, but I am doubtful it will a huge one. Word of mouth, and some insiders will tell others sure, but the marketing deals, especially with the larger install base, means this will be a huge sales domination for the PS4 version. I even have a casual gamer friend who told me I must be tempted to buy a PS4 for Red Dead Redemption 2. He didn't know it was coming to Xbox, mostly likely because he doesn't dig into this stuff, and probably has only seen the commercials for the PS4. Even online, most of the streams and videos I've seen from outlets has been PS4 only, outside of DF.

I think Microsoft are looking at the hardcore crowd, that's where the real money is. They have no chance closing the sales gap anytime soon
 

Deleted member 34239

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Nov 24, 2017
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It's just bad. While in a cutscene keep an eye on the background characters and objects. There's some sort of screen door effect.
I've also noticed a lot of dithering/artifacts while playing. It reminded me of the terrible checkerboarding artifacts seen in cod WW2 around fire. All in all, I'm not really impressed. I really don't think it looks all that great and certainly not better than other games on the system.
 

DrDeckard

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,109
UK
The game certainly is not as sharp as spiderman... The IQ difference is quite noticeable.[/QUOTE
Ash ok I was just going off a PlayStation pro poster in here. Ignore me

Hell nah, Spider-Man's IQ is clear and crisp on Pro, it's one of the best image reconstruction methods yet, RDR2 looks very blurry and dithered in comparison. Digital Foundry too noted it is not a great technique they are using.

Hopefully rockstar do something to sort out the blur.
Not only that but they clearly used base XB1 Code to bring it up to 4K. Personally, I don't find it groundbreaking graphically, but it is very good.
wow. Ok I'm a few hours in and it's the best looking game I've seen. It doesn't look like a base Xbox one at higher res to me. If I were Sony I'd be pissed if it was a base Xbox one game on the ps4

I've totally ruined quotes on my phone
 

harz-marz

Member
Oct 28, 2017
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It is also one of their biggest videos... and incredible well done BTW. DF always delivers.

I just started playing this morning on X1X... stunning game. Got my new Elite white controller as well... life is good :)
Aw man, so jealous! One X version is on its way from Amazon...problem being it's the girlfriends birthday this weekend and I won't get playing until Tuesday damnit haha
 

cowbanana

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Feb 2, 2018
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a Socialist Utopia
Thanks to those posting PS4 Pro 1080p screens, image quality looks really nice. I got the game this morning, but I'll have to wait until this afternoon to install and play.

I just hope my Pro doesn't go into the highest jet engine mode. I had absolutely no noise issues while playing Spider-Man out in the city. Only a couple of interiors, like the lab, made my Pro go into overdrive.
 

UsoEwin

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Jul 14, 2018
2,063
Thanks to those posting PS4 Pro 1080p screens, image quality looks really nice. I got the game this morning, but I'll have to wait until this afternoon to install and play.

I just hope my Pro doesn't go into the highest jet engine mode. I had absolutely no noise issues while playing Spider-Man out in the city. Only a couple of interiors, like the lab, made my Pro go into overdrive.
Played 3 hours, Pro was not audible above ambient sound. I do have one of the better Pros, and it might get louder in CPU stressed areas though.
 

hanmik

Editor/Writer at Popaco.dk
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
1,436
Thanks to those posting PS4 Pro 1080p screens, image quality looks really nice. I got the game this morning, but I'll have to wait until this afternoon to install and play.

I just hope my Pro doesn't go into the highest jet engine mode. I had absolutely no noise issues while playing Spider-Man out in the city. Only a couple of interiors, like the lab, made my Pro go into overdrive.

Same... Spiderman did not make my PS4 Pro go into jet mode, except sometimes indoors..

BUT RDR2 (only had time to play an hour or so) made my PS4 Pro go into the highest Jet mode from the beginning of the game.. and it stayed there, only in the menu it revs down.
 

JordianKnot

Member
Oct 27, 2017
872
Anybody with TCL 6 series, what TV and game settings are you using for HDR implementation? I'm playing on ps4 pro, and although I like the more with HDR on, the overall image becomes softer and dimmer.
 

TLT GAMING

Member
Apr 9, 2018
237
Got both versions. Looks blurry on PS4 pro and significantly better on the one x. It's kinda crazy.

Still looks good on both just really blurry on the Pro.
 

Darktalon

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,266
Kansas
Btw if you have an LG Oled and are using HDR Game Mode, you should pick 500 not 300, as it automatically compresses the range in game mode to always display all details. 300 looks a little washed out, 500 sets white to nice and bright. I was using 300 before as it said, and wasn't very impressed with the HDR, but after fixing it it looks much much better. I'm using LG B7 and Xbox One X.
 

TLT GAMING

Member
Apr 9, 2018
237
Aw man, so jealous! One X version is on its way from Amazon...problem being it's the girlfriends birthday this weekend and I won't get playing until Tuesday damnit haha

Women can wait. This game can't lol. Seriously though my girlfriend wanted me to help with Halloween decorations for a party later. I told her i was busy playing the game of the generation lmao.
 

Deleted member 30987

Account closed at user request
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Nov 5, 2017
301
Thanks to those posting PS4 Pro 1080p screens, image quality looks really nice. I got the game this morning, but I'll have to wait until this afternoon to install and play.

I just hope my Pro doesn't go into the highest jet engine mode. I had absolutely no noise issues while playing Spider-Man out in the city. Only a couple of interiors, like the lab, made my Pro go into overdrive.

You shouldn't, my Pro is getting noisy during cutscenes in Spiderman, not the case with RDR2 for the 1st hour and it's got a mix of cutscenes and gameplay.
 

Karu

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,002
Jumping in this thread blind, but... XBOX One S... what am I looking at, would I buy this version? I played Dragon Age Inquisition on the PS3, so that's my (very very low) standard. Am I good? :D
 

Deleted member 30987

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Banned
Nov 5, 2017
301
What did you do exactly? Mine X was running louder than before.
Consoles like to have some space around to effectively purge hot air. Moving them out of closed cabinets or TV furniture where You have a dedicated slot usually helps. My base PS4 was 10x louder in such a slot, when I moved it to place without walls on the sides it went quiet and kicked into high gear only occasionally on biggest offending games.
Where do You keep yours?
 

EVA UNIT 01

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,736
CA
Legit considering taking on that gamestop/RDR2 stack deal and trading in my switch.
My girl has one and we dont need 2...
Plus i want a 4kBR player for my new tv...
 

bodi

Member
Nov 5, 2017
20
Consoles like to have some space around to effectively purge hot air. Moving them out of closed cabinets or TV furniture where You have a dedicated slot usually helps. My base PS4 was 10x louder in such a slot, when I moved it to place without walls on the sides it went quiet and kicked into high gear only occasionally on biggest offending games.
Where do You keep yours?
Mine is on the top of TV table, has much enough space.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,511
This game running in native 4K bodes well for next gen console being able to achieve that. I think it's great news that the X can pull this off.
 

HBK

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Oct 30, 2017
7,988
I'm gonna ask something which may have been answered in the numerous pages of this thread, but OP states:
* XBX runs in native 4K
* PS4 Pro 1920 x 2160
I am reading it right or is my brain really cloudy this morning? X1X renders twice the pixels than PS4Pro? With similar (even a tad better) performance?

Wasn't expecting such a discrepancy. Anyone has any kind of explanation as to why there is such a large difference?

I mean X1X is more powerful than PS4Pro, but twice the pixels is no small difference.
 

Tyaren

Character Artist
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Oct 25, 2017
24,801
Here are a some more screens of the Pro version downsampled to 1080p/hooked up to a 1080p TV:

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DreadfulOmen

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Feb 6, 2018
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Some technical issues aside no matter where you play you will still be playing the same great game with the same great content.

Just finished a 4 hour session on my Pro and it was absolutely incredible - can only imagine what it looks like on an X with a better tv than my older pioneer plasma.

I am completely blown away.


Your plasma still wrecks a lot of newer tvs.
 

Blade Wolf

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,512
Taiwan
Pro version is good, but I wouldn't go as far as to say the IQ is as good as Spider Man. It certainly isn't.


And some 1080p Pro shots just for Blade Wolf before he starts pulling his hair out :p

Game looks incredible on my 4K TV. Certainly not the sharpest game on the Pro I've played, but in motion it's pretty damn good.

The intro chapter has post process and snow up the ass so the first few screens in the snow will look extra blurry/foggy.

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Thanks man, game looks great. Just got home with my Special Edition : )

Sorry for the freak out.