And this is why I had no hope for Red Dead Online after GTA Online. It's the same thing with Cowboys. They just want your money. Gonna miss SP DLC like GTA IV's, but I get why they do it.
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Red Dead Online's gold bars can now be purchased with real world money
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Okay, well that's good to know. Still not a fan of it being sold but if it can be acquired in-game with a moderate amount of playing, then that's fine for me.
Well that seals it for me. Just like GTAV, I'll just finish up singleplayer and not bother with online.
Yikes at those prices when compared to the current economy.
Yikes at those prices when compared to the current economy.
Holy shit. Only 350 gold bars for $100? Some clothing items fucking cost 20 or more gold bars. Putting an entire outfit together could use up $50 of those gold bars.
When will people and reviewers start holding R* accountable for these practices? R* is a trash tier company and should be embarrassed.
When will people and reviewers start holding R* accountable for these practices? R* is a trash tier company and should be embarrassed.
At least with GTA:Online, the naming convention of their monetization model gave a clue into how they view people who pay up for this kind of tripe: chum ready to be gobbled up.
They should have done something like Nintendo did with the Korok seeds and made the "gold" look like pieces of shit or something. Worthless arbitrary garbage that idiots will happily pay for.
They should have done something like Nintendo did with the Korok seeds and made the "gold" look like pieces of shit or something. Worthless arbitrary garbage that idiots will happily pay for.
I will never not find it scummy that developers now put off MTs for a month or two after launch to try and trick gullible people and mislead reviewers that the game doesn't have any gameplay mts.
R* is in the unique position of being one of a few AAA devs that literally design their in game economies around microtransactions. Most games use it as a way to take shortcuts. R* games you almost have to spend real money if you don't have time to grind for hours upon hours every week.
You have to love the concept of paying for a game, then paying to play that game with other humans, then paying again to accelerate everyone's enjoyment. Nonsense.
That said, I never paid an additional cent to GTAO and I can't imagine doing so here either. As soon as I finish up the last few, grindy MP trophies, I'll be logging off until the next substantial content update.
That said, I never paid an additional cent to GTAO and I can't imagine doing so here either. As soon as I finish up the last few, grindy MP trophies, I'll be logging off until the next substantial content update.
What is there to buy in the game? I mean I see the appeal in GTAV with the nice apartments, nice cars, jets, and so on. What is the equivalent in RDR? And these weapon upgrades people talk about grinding for (now paying for?), are those purely cosmetic?
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I am trying really hard to image someone somewhere being excited that gold bars can finally be purchased ...
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Honestly, at least we get a massive singleplayer open world game that can take a longggg time to complete and that is free of MTX.
Most AAA games do both and invade the singleplayer portion with this shit too (just look at anything EA and Ubisoft make).
Also, why did anyone think this wasn't going to be priced like GTA Online?
Most AAA games do both and invade the singleplayer portion with this shit too (just look at anything EA and Ubisoft make).
Also, why did anyone think this wasn't going to be priced like GTA Online?
"Well we cant bother to make good online and player base rapidly losing to other games quick sell those goldbars as quick as we can"
- this is what happened.
Red dead online losing players in huge rapid pace. They are trying to get money from before they left the game. Game is in total shit state and they seem to have no intention to fix it. So no need to wait leaving BETA stage to sell shit.
- this is what happened.
Red dead online losing players in huge rapid pace. They are trying to get money from before they left the game. Game is in total shit state and they seem to have no intention to fix it. So no need to wait leaving BETA stage to sell shit.
I'd be pissed about this if the single player content didn't already earn my $60.
People need to look at the Online modes in R* products as the tacked on F2P games that they are, they should never be a major factor in your purchasing decision.
People need to look at the Online modes in R* products as the tacked on F2P games that they are, they should never be a major factor in your purchasing decision.
I just remember some of the screen grabs back when it launched. Gold plating on a certain pistol was 30 gold. So it works out to be more or less $12. Don't have the time to find the image or grab my own since I'm at work.
Edit: Found the image in the RDO Beta thread.
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Strauss Zelnick, Take Two CEO last year:
"We are convinced that we are probably from an industry view undermonetizing on a per-user basis. There is wood to chop because I think we can do more, and we can do more without interfering with our strategy of being the most creative and our ethical approach, which is delighting consumers."
"You can't give stuff away for free in perpetuity; there's no business model in that. But we're not trying to optimize the monetization of everything we do to the nth degree. My concern is, if you do that, the consumer knows. They might not even know that they know, but they feel it."
"We're not going to grab the last nickel."
"We are convinced that we are probably from an industry view undermonetizing on a per-user basis. There is wood to chop because I think we can do more, and we can do more without interfering with our strategy of being the most creative and our ethical approach, which is delighting consumers."
"You can't give stuff away for free in perpetuity; there's no business model in that. But we're not trying to optimize the monetization of everything we do to the nth degree. My concern is, if you do that, the consumer knows. They might not even know that they know, but they feel it."
"We're not going to grab the last nickel."
I'll never understand what people find so compelling about these bland online modes that they're willing to spend 100s of dollars on it. Like the gunplay isn't particularly good...you cant really roleplay because everyone is just the to shoot or not get shot...maybe race horses? I don't know anymore man lmao.
Sounds like it's designed to seem like a good deal compared to the crazy amount of time you'd have to play the game to earn gold bars. Was it like 8 hours of playing to earn 1 goldbar Jim Sterling said in his video? So clearly 25 for 10 bucks would be a steal!
I will never get used to MT's. They always piss me off.
And what the hell is up with implementing MT's for a beta where the economy has changed drastically one time already? It's so silly.
And what the hell is up with implementing MT's for a beta where the economy has changed drastically one time already? It's so silly.
What EA or Ubisoft game has microtransactions invading their single-player portion?
You can plate your Gun Barrel, Cylinder, Frame, Hammer, Sight and Trigger in Gold which is 5 Gold Bars for each of those. 6x5 is 30 Gold Bars total, which checks out at 11.988 US$, if you take the base price of 9.99 US$ for 25 Gold Bars.
I posted an other example above with the Arabian Horse, which checks out at 16.7832 US$ (42 Gold Bars).
Far Cry 5 was the most recent. The SP store that you had to use to upgrade/buy guns and cars ... was directly connected to their online store ... which made the game pause for MINUTES to load when playing "offline" - also in some cases would crash the game entirely.
This seems in line with most of the rip-off gatcha games I've played.
GaaS is the worst thing that has happened to gaming BY FAR. Just proves people are stupid and the market takes as much advantage of it as possible, can't blame companies for having this easy money making scheme.
GaaS is the worst thing that has happened to gaming BY FAR. Just proves people are stupid and the market takes as much advantage of it as possible, can't blame companies for having this easy money making scheme.
I'll probably never even bother with this online shit honestly (just like GTA: Online), as it's clearly just predatory systematic game design made to be nothing but a huge time sink for the player and profit generation engine for the publisher/Rockstar.
It's a shame, because I thought some of GTA IV's multiplayer modes were incredibly fun (Cops 'N Crooks, Chopper vs. Chopper, Point to point racing, etc.). But I have zero desire to interface with such abusive systems in order to drill down to find tiny nuggets of fun. When your game design is made to essentially be busy work in order to incentivize a player to pay money to avoid the actual "playing" of the game, that tells me your game isn't very fun and is carefully designed for "fun" to be dispensed in calculated intervals.
Artificial barriers to enjoyment are so insulting to me, but it's clear that these are the kinds of things that people spend both serious time and money for.
It's a shame, because I thought some of GTA IV's multiplayer modes were incredibly fun (Cops 'N Crooks, Chopper vs. Chopper, Point to point racing, etc.). But I have zero desire to interface with such abusive systems in order to drill down to find tiny nuggets of fun. When your game design is made to essentially be busy work in order to incentivize a player to pay money to avoid the actual "playing" of the game, that tells me your game isn't very fun and is carefully designed for "fun" to be dispensed in calculated intervals.
Artificial barriers to enjoyment are so insulting to me, but it's clear that these are the kinds of things that people spend both serious time and money for.
