Really hoping Square Enix changes their mind and shows FFXVI at TGS 2021

[CRIMSON-XIII]

Covid shouldn't really factor into this anymore. It did delay schedules by months back in 2020 when they were struggling to transition to work from home, but they're back at full efficiency so much so that they offer work from home as a permanent option even beyond Covid measures (which I think is pretty rad).

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plus i think Jason S. mentioned that it was in dev since 2017 or something. And was late in development. And the producer mentioned that they are nearly done with voice work all around and the story is set in stone. The trailer did look far along minus the lighting.

 

[Loudninja]

Covid shouldn't really factor into this anymore. It did delay schedules by months back in 2020 when they were struggling to transition to work from home, but they're back at full efficiency so much so that they offer work from home as a permanent option even beyond Covid measures (which I think is pretty rad).

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Covid will always factor for a long time, it does not get easier for alot of devs, just look at Horizon Forbidden West. There are so many moving parts to game development as explain by devs here, nothing is every that simple even when covid was not around.

 

[TaleSpun]

Here is hoping. Have you given up on information/news for 2021 for Final Fantasy XVI ? Or do you remain hopeful lol .. I guess Forspoken wouldn't hurt either.

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I think it's entirely possible they surprise everyone at TGS, but my actual hopes are in The Game Awards if not an actual XVI branded showcase before the end of the year. Forspoken, I'm not even convinced will be a good game at all.

 

[purseowner]

I think we'll see it at the Sony event if it's out by May next year.

 

[Chasing]

At the very least there's already "something" in the works from the rumors/leaks back in July, so hopefully we get to see that soon.

 

[CRIMSON-XIII]

I think it's entirely possible they surprise everyone at TGS, but my actual hopes are in The Game Awards if not an actual XVI branded showcase before the end of the year. Forspoken, I'm not even convinced will be a good game at all.

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Regarding Forspoken, yeah we need to see more to see what it really is. I want to see if there are towns, what the "quest" or quests look like. If we will be hiding from dragons and fighting with dragons. Maybe it being nextgen will allow them to do some new epic setpieces. ..The combat and acrobatics look visually epic from the few seconds we have seen but we gotta see what the combat actually is aside from that magic and vines lol. They had a tech video recently if you remember and they said they want to be the best looking open world game. I hope they fill that world well. And i want to see towns and more of the activities in this world.

But yeah, i feel like From Soft are the main big Japanese company that has been at TGA or SGF/Gamescom. It would be wild to see square enix there. I am not sure why i am skeptical about that still but here's hoping. I'm patient for whenever it is, it would just be super nice if it was soon.

 

[TaleSpun]

TGA is kind of becoming one of the last places for big AAA reveals. SE has always liked E3, I mean that's where FFVII, the original FFVII, made it's big splash even way back then. So chances are they do see the value in that. Especially for an obviously western-facing game like XVI clearly is, not even in just the aesthetic, but stuff like English VA being the source audio rather than a dub like it always was before.

 

[shoptroll]

If they don't currently think they'll have anything to show for TGS then that situation is very unlikely to change. Them's the breaks.

 

[TaleSpun]

If they don't currently think they'll have anything to show for TGS then that situation is very unlikely to change. Them's the breaks.

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This was nearly two months ago, just for the sake of accuracy.

 

[Gaia Lanzer]

Realistically, I'm not getting my hopes up. At the soonest, I'm expecting Jump Festa in December.

 

[Xeonidus]

It's a tough call. As fans, of course we want to see more. It's been a long time. However, as developers they do need to be careful and ensure what they show actually builds excitement rather than diminishes it. In a world where fans can be very critical, picky, and able to create memes in minutes to taunt the product of your years of hard work, it's no wonder developers don't want to rush what they show off.

 

[IDreamOfHime]

For context (since when he says "no" to a TGS appareance, it's in a jokey environment and he's trying not to set people up for dissapointment):



I still think it won't be there, though. Betting on November (Square-Enix Presents?) or December (TGA?).

In any case, CRIMSON-XIII, Yoshida said this when they revealed the game:


Provided nothing changed, we're seeing it this year. And if he truly wants us to not wait much between the next showcase and buying it, I'd say the release date could very well be before Summer 2022. A demo would be cool, too (and not too unlikely, considering the series' history and maybe them wanting people to be sold on the combat).

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Yoko Taro very clued in on how the average game thinks.

 

[bunkitz]

Quite a while back I would've agreed but it's been a long time since the reveal and the hype's died down quite a bit for me. It's still one of the games I'm most looking forward to, but I fully trust the team and can wait until whenever it's ready. I like the approach Yoshi-P spoke of as well, choosing to show it only once it's ready with plenty to wow us with and closer to launch so that we won't have to wait too long.

I'm not even expecting it to show up until after Endwalker releases, at the earliest.

 

[Vareon]

It's a tough call. As fans, of course we want to see more. It's been a long time. However, as developers they do need to be careful and ensure what they show actually builds excitement rather than diminishes it. In a world where fans can be very critical, picky, and able to create memes in minutes to taunt the product of your years of hard work, it's no wonder developers don't want to rush what they show off.

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It's not tough. If the ones making the game say "I'm not confident enough for anyone to see it" then sure. It's not tough, it's not even our call.

 

[Xeonidus]

It's not tough. If the ones making the game say "I'm not confident enough for anyone to see it" then sure. It's not tough, it's not even our call.

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Agreed, it's not our call. Devs should show what they have off when they're ready. It's that sometimes they feel that pressure and it can be tough for them either way. I'm going to use Halo Infinite's reveal last year as an example. I'm sure quite a few developers there didn't feel ready to show off what they had just yet. Looking back, I think most will agree it could have used more time. However, the backlash that would have ensued if Halo was a a no-show at that event last year would have been pretty bad as well and they knew it. Instead of opting to delay the reveal, they went ahead with it anyway.

Now this year, we have yet to see Halo Infinite's campaign footage. Am I worried? Nope. They're going to show what they have when it's ready. They want to make sure it's good.

 

[Dizastah]

Hope they crunch to get out a surprise trailer against their public statements to feed your hype thirst???

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Oh come on. You know that's not what OP meant.
Anyway...it being at TGS would be amazing.

 

[Jimmypython]

Hope there is a PSX event in Dec. SE also likes to put out things at JUMP FESTA. So plenty of chances for them to show off outside of TGS.

 

[The Praiseworthy]

I think next time we see it is end of the year \ early next year.

 

[Mediking]

Have you given up on information/news for 2021 for Final Fantasy XVI ? Or do you remain hopeful lol .. I guess Forspoken wouldn't hurt either.

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I ain't giving up on this and I ain't giving up on Persona! I believe!

 

[ventuno]

I'm really excited, but not only are they working on tougher conditions than usual due to covid (and there's no reason to dismiss this as a concern), but Yoshi-P is also juggling Endwalker.

I have faith in him and the work of his team, but I would rather see him be willing make the decision to take the time that's needed. It's a huge undertaking and people are really going to be looking towards this title to see where FF is at. We've seen what happens when they jump the gun, let's not encourage that.

 

[Ombala]

Show it when it's ready too show the most important thing is that the game is good when it releases and that the developers don't have too work themselves too death.

 

[Rob2K19]

I'm ready to see more, but I'm not going to die over it. When its ready, they'll show it.

10 years of FFXV has made me patient for the better, so they should go ghost and pop when ready.

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You did not wait 10 years for XV. You waited 7 years (2006-2013) for Versus XIII then in that same year, you waited for E3 2013's XV, which was still part of Nomura's Versus XIII vision. After Nomura left the game in late 2013, it was Tabata's game. That TGS 2014 re-reveal was a different game by Tabata. Lunafrena was introduced (while Stella was in the E3 2013 trailer) in that trailer. You waited almost 3 years for Tabata's XV. People are still waiting for Versus XIII.

 

[MegaManTrigger]

Let them take their time. There's no reason to rush out a trailer just to drum up hype unnecessarily, and then go back to a long development cycle.

 

[Diablos]

Please (do not) be excited.

 

[FinFunnels]

These things are usually planned months ahead of time, so I wouldn't count on seeing anything major from the game unless they actually planned to show it all along.

But I'm also increasingly becoming weary of long drawn out hype cycles. I think it's better to reveal your game and release it less than 6 months later. Announcing a game years ahead of time is exhausting for both the fans (who have to wait that long) and the devs (who now have to meet fan expectations set by that reveal, even if the game sees significant changes to its design or scope after the reveal.)

 

[ARobotCalledV]

Just release a statement saying if it will have multiple playable party members or not. That's the only deciding factor for me here

 

[Yuntu]

It will be shown whenever they deem it ready.

 

[Gure]

They probably could show something really good but FFXIV is now in such insane state that it's for sure all ENDWALKER for SE now. It was before, it is now even more.

 

[MatrixMan.exe]

Covid shouldn't really factor into this anymore. It did delay schedules by months back in 2020 when they were struggling to transition to work from home

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This is a really naive take. COVID is still having a significant impact on development and release schedules across the industry.

 

[Emerald]

Well they have a 50 minute timeslot for a SE Presents for the first of October at TGS.

Official Program | TOKYO GAME SHOW 2021

This website is is the official website of Tokyo Game Show 2021.Tokyo Game Show is the one of the largest video game exhibitionsin Asia, which the newly released games gather from all around the world.

tgs.nikkeibp.co.jp

Guess it'll be there if it is.

 

[Izanagi89]

Hope they crunch to get out a surprise trailer against their public statements to feed your hype thirst???

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What a needlessly antagonistic comment when OP doesn't mean the post in that way. But I hope it made you feel better.

Anyway. I already took the website as the 'info for 2021' but still holding out for another trailer. It's my most anticipated game so far and I'm dying for more. I think what makes me feel so much worse was all the teasing from insiders around E3 about it showing up.

 

[Wispmetas]

I can always look forward to seeing...

...there. XVI can take it's time to be as good as it can be

 

[Altezein]

So maybe we will get one of the two big upcoming games... either XVI or Forspoken.

 

[ZeoVGM]

That isn't how it works. They can't simply "change their mind."

 

[skeezx]

seems to me they're playing their cards relatively conservative with XVI, as to not create a pre-release fiasco like with XV and to a lesser extent FF7R

i.e. showing what they got as it goes along, what's actually going to be in the finished game, in-game performance that approximates the finished game ect

in that regard there's probably not much to show that wouldn't cause issues down the line

 

[Tornak]

Not going to expect the game showing up in the Fall S-E Presents (was kinda betting on it when I thought it would have been in November or so). Winter it is.

It's selfish and they don't owe us shit, but it'd be cool if they could say in advance if the game isn't going to be there.

seems to me they're playing their cards relatively conservative with XVI, as to not create a pre-release fiasco like with XV and to a lesser extent FF7R

i.e. showing what they got as it goes along, what's actually going to be in the finished game, in-game performance that approximates the finished game ect

in that regard there's probably not much to show that wouldn't cause issues down the line

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While he never mentioned games in particular, yeah, it's clear that Yoshida doesn't like the approach game like Versus XIII and VII Remake (during 2015 and I guess 2017) took. And I'd agree, as much as I want to see this and think it wouldn't be quite the same, as XVI is probably releasing before Summer next year.

But yeah, the series needs something fresh, not just in terms of games, but also in the way they are marketed. Versus XIII/XV was brutal in that sense, don't want to do that shit again.

Crazy to think that, had it not been for COVID, there maybe could have been a chance of this releasing this year.

This was nearly two months ago, just for the sake of accuracy.

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That's true, yeah.

Which makes it even more clear how hard these things are to prepare, especially with COVID and particularly if they really want to go all out as it looks like. As in, two months is a long ass time and even then...

 

[Sanka]

I typically just forget about a game until it releases new info. I can wait. Would rather they just show something once they feel confident and ready.

One thing you guys need to learn is that handy skill called patience.

 

[Munba]

I think Forspoken is more probable than FF16 to appear at TGS, after what YoshiP said lately.
But who knows...

 

[Quinton]

I feel like Square Enix as a corporate entity concurs with you, whilst Producer Naoki Yoshida in particular does not. lol

At the very least there's already "something" in the works from the rumors/leaks back in July, so hopefully we get to see that soon.

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Standing by this, btw. It was absolutely on the table. My guess is that Yoshida was like "nah, actually."

 

[Ewaan]

Well they have a 50 minute timeslot for a SE Presents for the first of October at TGS.

Official Program | TOKYO GAME SHOW 2021

This website is is the official website of Tokyo Game Show 2021.Tokyo Game Show is the one of the largest video game exhibitionsin Asia, which the newly released games gather from all around the world.

tgs.nikkeibp.co.jp

Guess it'll be there if it is.

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I expect this to be Japanese versions of the trailers and content shown at the Square Enix Presents show at E3. I would expect minimal new information from this.

So my expectations are low.

 

[HitMissYeah]

I am hoping for a short trailer at the SE Presents too. Damn I am still so hyped for the game.

 

[CRIMSON-XIII]

Folks need to know the difference between being impatient and simply being excited and wanted to *See* more of something.

No one was asking square enix to release the game by a deadline of Q1 2022. The versus era had way less information and it was always spread out. They will have a more competent marketing cycle this time, like VIIR after June 2019.

 

[CRIMSON-XIII]

I feel like Square Enix as a corporate entity concurs with you, whilst Producer Naoki Yoshida in particular does not. lol



Standing by this, btw. It was absolutely on the table. My guess is that Yoshida was like "nah, actually."

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the game is also very far along. Their decisions are a bit more flexible. They didn't show at e3 because of the idea that it is not ready. They were almost going to. They just decided on the idea of waiting till super late in the dev.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I expect this to be Japanese versions of the trailers and content shown at the Square Enix Presents show at E3. I would expect minimal new information from this.

So my expectations are low.

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I do not think Square Enix is stupid enough to make an entire TGS event "Life is Strange and Guardians of the Galaxy". They know their audience over there doesn't care about that stuff.

 

[Deleted member 93062]

It's not Square's mind. Yoshi-P said the suits want him to show stuff at TGS, he say's they won't be ready.

 

[Tetsujin]

This is a really naive take. COVID is still having a significant impact on development and release schedules across the industry.

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It's not a "take", this is literally what they stated. By their own admission, the transition to WFH due to Covid caused a one-time delay but since setting up have had very little impact to productivity and are essentially back to full efficiency.

 

[CRIMSON-XIII]

It's not a "take", this is literally what they stated. By their own admission, the transition to WFH due to Covid caused a one-time delay but since setting up have had very little impact to productivity and are essentially back to full efficiency.

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I think the realistic period where production slowed down due to the pandemic was in early 2020 when the industry was transitioning from work from home. It won't be slower than usual from now on indefinitely. These big publishers got consoles out in late 2020 somehow. It was hard work.

 

[pleaseinsertdisctwo]

Just try to detach from it for now. Then before you know it the new trailer will come

Hope they crunch to get out a surprise trailer against their public statements to feed your hype thirst???

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oh be quiet.

 

[CRIMSON-XIII]

If XVI somehow shows up next thursday, i think a lot of folks would be surprised.

I am reserved at the moment, maybe Forspoken shows

 

[The Last One]

I think its possible that XVI will be at next weeks showcase as a teaser for the SE presents at TGS. Thats how it happened to VII Remake but instead of TGS was E3.